can't get DCHP server to give IP address

I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.

The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
working.

However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.

I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
room as the desktop running XP.

I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
blocking the assignment of an IP address.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

(E-Mail Removed) wrote in news:gqf0qvodrseenk7u1b021kj93jc0vp9a3o@
4ax.com:

> I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
> Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
> that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>
> The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
> driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
> Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
> working.
>
> However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>
> I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
> adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
> notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
> internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
> room as the desktop running XP.
>
> I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
> connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
> blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>

What is the IP that the machine that is bad getting using IPCONFIG? If
it's getting a 169.xxx number, then the machine cannot get a valid IP
from the DHCP.

Duane

Yeah, I think I know what you did, as I went down that
(bogus) road, too.

When the XP wireless wizard runs, it asks you a question about
whether you are 'direct-connected' or whether you make a connection
thru 'a residential gateway'. I'm betting that you answered that
you have a 'residential gateway'. And, if so, I'm betting that you
do NOT have a residential gateway (even tho you might THINK
that you do). Note that the key word in their wizard is "GATEWAY".
If you have, like I do, a router/firewall/wap box, you need to understand
that it is NOT the same as a GATEWAY.

Ok, the 'acid' test is to go to a Win-XP cmd-window, and issue the cmd
IPCONFIG /ALL
If the device that the wizard created is called a 'network bridge', then
my guess is correct. And, since you do NOT want the bridge, you need
to 'delete' it (undo-ing what the wizard did when you mis-answered the
question).

Doing the 'delete' was a bit tricky. As I recall, there were some
'pre-requisite'
'disable' cmds that you must do first, and I believe that I also even had to
do an 'uninstall' of the driver first too, before the system would let the
'delete'
of the 'network bridge' happen. (And, of course, you need 'administrator
priv'
to do this stuff.)

Good luck...hope this helps...

Dave




<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
> Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
> that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>
> The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
> driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
> Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
> working.
>
> However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>
> I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
> adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
> notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
> internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
> room as the desktop running XP.
>
> I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
> connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
> blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:10:12 GMT, Duane Arnold <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote in news:gqf0qvodrseenk7u1b021kj93jc0vp9a3o@
>4ax.com:
>
>> I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
>> Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
>> that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>>
>> The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
>> driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
>> Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
>> working.
>>
>> However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>>
>> I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
>> adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
>> notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
>> internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
>> room as the desktop running XP.
>>
>> I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
>> connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
>> blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>>
>
>What is the IP that the machine that is bad getting using IPCONFIG? If
>it's getting a 169.xxx number, then the machine cannot get a valid IP
>from the DHCP.
>
>Duane
>

Yes that is the number I get on the xp machine. However, when I move
the adapter back to the 98 machine I do get a vaild IP address and can
connect.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 20:04:27 -0500, "David Cook"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Yeah, I think I know what you did, as I went down that
>(bogus) road, too.
>
>When the XP wireless wizard runs, it asks you a question about
>whether you are 'direct-connected' or whether you make a connection
>thru 'a residential gateway'. I'm betting that you answered that
>you have a 'residential gateway'. And, if so, I'm betting that you
>do NOT have a residential gateway (even tho you might THINK
>that you do). Note that the key word in their wizard is "GATEWAY".
>If you have, like I do, a router/firewall/wap box, you need to understand
>that it is NOT the same as a GATEWAY.
>
>Ok, the 'acid' test is to go to a Win-XP cmd-window, and issue the cmd
>IPCONFIG /ALL
>If the device that the wizard created is called a 'network bridge', then
>my guess is correct. And, since you do NOT want the bridge, you need
>to 'delete' it (undo-ing what the wizard did when you mis-answered the
>question).
>
>Doing the 'delete' was a bit tricky. As I recall, there were some
>'pre-requisite'
>'disable' cmds that you must do first, and I believe that I also even had to
>do an 'uninstall' of the driver first too, before the system would let the
>'delete'
>of the 'network bridge' happen. (And, of course, you need 'administrator
>priv'
>to do this stuff.)
>
>Good luck...hope this helps...
>
> Dave

Yes, I did do that once, but that was when I first set up the D-Link
card. I did get things corrected and got corrected, but as you say,
it took a bit of work to undo things.

When I installed the Orinoco adapter I did ans. the question right -
as the direct internet connection.

Thanks for the response, and if you have any other ideas I would
appreciate them.


>
>
>
>
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
>> Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
>> that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>>
>> The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
>> driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
>> Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
>> working.
>>
>> However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>>
>> I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
>> adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
>> notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
>> internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
>> room as the desktop running XP.
>>
>> I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
>> connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
>> blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>

(E-Mail Removed) wrote in newsk51qvc31550b4upa3q6cc8kvngi9jl7uo@
4ax.com:

> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:10:12 GMT, Duane Arnold <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>(E-Mail Removed) wrote in news:gqf0qvodrseenk7u1b021kj93jc0vp9a3o@
>>4ax.com:
>>
>>> I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
>>> Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
>>> that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>>>
>>> The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
>>> driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
>>> Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
>>> working.
>>>
>>> However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>>>
>>> I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
>>> adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
>>> notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
>>> internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
>>> room as the desktop running XP.
>>>
>>> I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
>>> connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
>>> blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>>>
>>
>>What is the IP that the machine that is bad getting using IPCONFIG? If
>>it's getting a 169.xxx number, then the machine cannot get a valid IP
>>from the DHCP.
>>
>>Duane
>>
>
> Yes that is the number I get on the xp machine. However, when I move
> the adapter back to the 98 machine I do get a vaild IP address and can
> connect.
>
>
>

That most likely means that the TCP/IP Stack on the machine is hosed and
needs to be rebuilt.

1) Use REGEDIT.

2) Hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset\servic es

3) Delete Winsock and Winsock2 entries

4) Unisntall everything out of the NIC's Property Box

5) reboot the machine which will rebuild the stack

6) Install everything back into the NIC's Property Box

Hopefully, that should fix your problem.

Duane

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:21:50 GMT, Duane Arnold <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>(E-Mail Removed) wrote in newsk51qvc31550b4upa3q6cc8kvngi9jl7uo@
>4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 23:10:12 GMT, Duane Arnold <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>(E-Mail Removed) wrote in news:gqf0qvodrseenk7u1b021kj93jc0vp9a3o@
>>>4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
>>>> Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
>>>> that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>>>>
>>>> The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
>>>> driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
>>>> Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
>>>> working.
>>>>
>>>> However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>>>>
>>>> I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
>>>> adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
>>>> notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
>>>> internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
>>>> room as the desktop running XP.
>>>>
>>>> I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
>>>> connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
>>>> blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>>>>
>>>
>>>What is the IP that the machine that is bad getting using IPCONFIG? If
>>>it's getting a 169.xxx number, then the machine cannot get a valid IP
>>>from the DHCP.
>>>
>>>Duane
>>>
>>
>> Yes that is the number I get on the xp machine. However, when I move
>> the adapter back to the 98 machine I do get a vaild IP address and can
>> connect.
>>
>>
>>
>
>That most likely means that the TCP/IP Stack on the machine is hosed and
>needs to be rebuilt.
>
>1) Use REGEDIT.
>
>2) Hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset\servic es
>
>3) Delete Winsock and Winsock2 entries
>
>4) Unisntall everything out of the NIC's Property Box
>
>5) reboot the machine which will rebuild the stack
>
>6) Install everything back into the NIC's Property Box
>
>Hopefully, that should fix your problem.
>
>Duane


Thank you. That sounds like what could be wrong. I will try it as
soon as I can.

I currently have another problem. Now the signal does not reach the
room where my desktop machine is. I do not know if it is something
local or if it might be related to the activity on the sun, but I have
a lot of interference. In the past the signal has usually been good
to very good.

After I try your regristry fix solution and get the connection back I
will let you know how things worked out.

I understand that Win XP "home" edition is very network limited. It
may not even be asking for a DHCP lease.

Is there any way you can get Win XP "pro" installed or get to a
machine with Pro on it?

You might also check the MicroSoft Knowledge base for "DHCP lease
failures w/XP"

Good luck.

Bob



On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:31:47 -0600, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>I had a D-Link USB adapter that stopped working on a desktop running
>Windows-XP home edition. I replaced it with a Orinoco USB adapter
>that was working on a desktop running Windows-98.
>
>The first time I installed the Orinoco adapter I installed the wrong
>driver. I uninstalled then reinstalled the adapter and the driver.
>Both xp and the adapter client software show that the adapter is
>working.
>
>However, I can't get the DCHP server to give me a IP address.
>
>I know the cable modem, the residential gateway and the wireless
>adapter work. I'm now on the internet using a PC card adapter on a
>notebook running Windows-98. Also, the USP adapter connected to the
>internet on a desktop running Windows-98 that is located in the same
>room as the desktop running XP.
>
>I used the internet connection wizard and also manually set up the
>connection, but nothing works. It seems that something in XP is
>blocking the assignment of an IP address.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

Bob Peticolas <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I understand that Win XP "home" edition is very network limited. It
> may not even be asking for a DHCP lease.

My WinXP-Home system came up just fine against an SMC7004WFW DHCP server.

My son did have a problem with an Orinoco Silver card and WinXP-Pro.
He just popped the card in and let it go. That didn't work. He couldn't
connect to his Linksys BEFW11S4 router at all... not an IP addrsss issue.
We removed the card in Device Manager, physically removed the card, booted
the system without it, booted the system again, installed the drivers from
CD, and then put the card in. It worked that time.

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"Bob Peticolas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I understand that Win XP "home" edition is very network limited.
> It may not even be asking for a DHCP lease.
>
It is capable of using DHCP. But there are sometimes trouble with
using the WEP-Encyption _and_ DHCP on Windows XP.


Have a nice day
Stefan

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