Can't figure out networking PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

I have my desktop and just bought a laptop.My desktop is my main computer and
running windows xp my laptop is running window xp pro .I have a linksys
wireless g with speedboost router.I have the laptop working fine wirelessly
but now I tried my hand at neworking I want to share my printer that is
hooked to my desktop and also share files between the two computer .I tried
the nework wizard and followed all the tutorials on the site on networking
and file and printer sharing .but i still can't get it to work what am i
doing wrong ????I can't see the files on my desktop with my laptop or vice
versa I have the hand under certain folders to make it shared and I used the
same workgroup name for both computer.please help

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:46:02 -0700, djrave808
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have my desktop and just bought a laptop.My desktop is my main computer and
>running windows xp my laptop is running window xp pro .I have a linksys
>wireless g with speedboost router.I have the laptop working fine wirelessly
>but now I tried my hand at neworking I want to share my printer that is
>hooked to my desktop and also share files between the two computer .I tried
>the nework wizard and followed all the tutorials on the site on networking
>and file and printer sharing .but i still can't get it to work what am i
>doing wrong ????I can't see the files on my desktop with my laptop or vice
>versa I have the hand under certain folders to make it shared and I used the
>same workgroup name for both computer.please help

Do both computers have Internet service? Look at logs from "browstat status"
and "ipconfig /all", from each computer, and try to diagnose the problem. Read
this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions precisely (download
browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"djrave808" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:880EA1FA-D336-4CAD-A0D9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have my desktop and just bought a laptop.My desktop is my main computer
>and
> running windows xp my laptop is running window xp pro .I have a linksys
> wireless g with speedboost router.I have the laptop working fine
> wirelessly
> but now I tried my hand at neworking I want to share my printer that is
> hooked to my desktop and also share files between the two computer .I
> tried
> the nework wizard and followed all the tutorials on the site on networking
> and file and printer sharing .but i still can't get it to work what am i
> doing wrong ????I can't see the files on my desktop with my laptop or vice
> versa I have the hand under certain folders to make it shared and I used
> the
> same workgroup name for both computer.please help

I am having the same exact problem on an XP system. Internet works fine on
the desktop computer and wireless laptop (via the G router). Printer works
on the desktop and the laptop when it is connected directly, but I cannot get
it to work on the laptop wirelessly. You are a better person than me - 2
weeks - I am about to throw in the towel after one afternoon!

~Stephanie


"Phil" wrote:

> These are excellent suggestions but are many are Vista
> Specific.
>
> I have been having the same problem -- I cannot share 3
> computers on a XP Linksys wireless network with a
> WRVS4400N VPN router. When all computers are wired
> (CAT5 connected) to the router, I have full file and
> printer sharing. If they are all wireless connected I
> lose all sharing. In the wireless environment all
> computers connect to the internet. The VPN tunnel
> works (I am using it right now.)
>
> I have no software firewalls. I have all file and
> printer sharing "checked." In all these discussions
> that I have come across none explain this seminal
> difference, why something changes from a wired
> environment to a wireless environment. They are not
> handled the same way. I have found that none of my 3
> computers see each other. None can ping each other.
> The LAN is not functional.
>
> I have been at this for 2 weeks now and this thread is
> very close, but still does not offer the definitive
> answer: why no sharing. We need to go beyond the
> simple explanations of firewalls and checking the
> simple file and printer sharing conventions to
> something far more obscure (yet simple). That is what
> we are searching for.
>
> Many thanks,
> Phil
>
>
>
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi
> > Successful Sharing involves some general
> > consideration in Network settings,
> > http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> > As well as specific adjustment of each computer
> > according to what it is allowed to be shared.
> > Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> > Basic XP -
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
> > Advanced XP -
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
> > Printer Sharing XP -
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
> > Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> > Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> > Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >
> > "djrave808" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > wrote in message
> > news:880EA1FA-D336-4CAD-A0D9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>I have my desktop and just bought a laptop.My desktop
> >>is my main computer and
> >> running windows xp my laptop is running window xp
> >> pro .I have a linksys
> >> wireless g with speedboost router.I have the laptop
> >> working fine wirelessly
> >> but now I tried my hand at neworking I want to share
> >> my printer that is
> >> hooked to my desktop and also share files between
> >> the two computer .I tried
> >> the nework wizard and followed all the tutorials on
> >> the site on networking
> >> and file and printer sharing .but i still can't get
> >> it to work what am i
> >> doing wrong ????I can't see the files on my desktop
> >> with my laptop or vice
> >> versa I have the hand under certain folders to make
> >> it shared and I used the
> >> same workgroup name for both computer.please help
> >
> >
>
>
>

I am persistent. But after two weeks I am ready to give up.
If you do a search there are probably 1000's of queries
related to "can't get file and printer sharing." None on
of these discussion results in a definitive solution beyond
the usual "turn on file sharing and turn off the firewall."
But that is not the full answer for so many of us. Then
the trail suddenly turns cold ... the responses drift off.

I am so frustrated by this problems that I am ready to
revert to a wired network which will work flawlessly. Not
without its problems but it is so much more robust and
foolproof once set up properly.

I had to become my own network admin at my medical office --
successfully for the last 10 years. So I come to this
problem not as a neophyte, novice or ...... newbie.

1. The answer is either **highly** arcane but simple
2. Not known
3. A true "bug" or "limitation" of wireless networking
software conventions that is trying to balance security with
accessibility -- and failing.
4. the differences between XP and Vista just compound an
already insoluble problem.

I wish someone, who is brilliant, would answer this
question. Just do the search.

Phil




"g8rav8r" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
news:FF8591B3-7843-4EA3-8A18-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I am having the same exact problem on an XP system.
>Internet works fine on
> the desktop computer and wireless laptop (via the G
> router). Printer works
> on the desktop and the laptop when it is connected
> directly, but I cannot get
> it to work on the laptop wirelessly. You are a better
> person than me - 2
> weeks - I am about to throw in the towel after one
> afternoon!
>
> ~Stephanie
>
>
> "Phil" wrote:
>
>> These are excellent suggestions but are many are Vista
>> Specific.
>>
>> I have been having the same problem -- I cannot share 3
>> computers on a XP Linksys wireless network with a
>> WRVS4400N VPN router. When all computers are wired
>> (CAT5 connected) to the router, I have full file and
>> printer sharing. If they are all wireless connected I
>> lose all sharing. In the wireless environment all
>> computers connect to the internet. The VPN tunnel
>> works (I am using it right now.)
>>
>> I have no software firewalls. I have all file and
>> printer sharing "checked." In all these discussions
>> that I have come across none explain this seminal
>> difference, why something changes from a wired
>> environment to a wireless environment. They are not
>> handled the same way. I have found that none of my 3
>> computers see each other. None can ping each other.
>> The LAN is not functional.
>>
>> I have been at this for 2 weeks now and this thread is
>> very close, but still does not offer the definitive
>> answer: why no sharing. We need to go beyond the
>> simple explanations of firewalls and checking the
>> simple file and printer sharing conventions to
>> something far more obscure (yet simple). That is what
>> we are searching for.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi
>> > Successful Sharing involves some general
>> > consideration in Network settings,
>> > http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>> > As well as specific adjustment of each computer
>> > according to what it is allowed to be shared.
>> > Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>> > Basic XP -
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
>> > Advanced XP -
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
>> > Printer Sharing XP -
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
>> > Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>> > Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>> > Jack (MVP-Networking).
>> >
>> > "djrave808" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> > wrote in message
>> > news:880EA1FA-D336-4CAD-A0D9-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>I have my desktop and just bought a laptop.My desktop
>> >>is my main computer and
>> >> running windows xp my laptop is running window xp
>> >> pro .I have a linksys
>> >> wireless g with speedboost router.I have the laptop
>> >> working fine wirelessly
>> >> but now I tried my hand at neworking I want to share
>> >> my printer that is
>> >> hooked to my desktop and also share files between
>> >> the two computer .I tried
>> >> the nework wizard and followed all the tutorials on
>> >> the site on networking
>> >> and file and printer sharing .but i still can't get
>> >> it to work what am i
>> >> doing wrong ????I can't see the files on my desktop
>> >> with my laptop or vice
>> >> versa I have the hand under certain folders to make
>> >> it shared and I used the
>> >> same workgroup name for both computer.please help
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:38:20 -0700, "MS" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am persistent. But after two weeks I am ready to give up.
>If you do a search there are probably 1000's of queries
>related to "can't get file and printer sharing." None on
>of these discussion results in a definitive solution beyond
>the usual "turn on file sharing and turn off the firewall."
>But that is not the full answer for so many of us. Then
>the trail suddenly turns cold ... the responses drift off.
>
>I am so frustrated by this problems that I am ready to
>revert to a wired network which will work flawlessly. Not
>without its problems but it is so much more robust and
>foolproof once set up properly.
>
>I had to become my own network admin at my medical office --
>successfully for the last 10 years. So I come to this
>problem not as a neophyte, novice or ...... newbie.
>
>1. The answer is either **highly** arcane but simple
>2. Not known
>3. A true "bug" or "limitation" of wireless networking
>software conventions that is trying to balance security with
>accessibility -- and failing.
>4. the differences between XP and Vista just compound an
>already insoluble problem.
>
>I wish someone, who is brilliant, would answer this
>question. Just do the search.
>
>Phil

Phil,

I won't dispute the obvious fact that Vista is still, obviously, a Beta product.
Even so, besides the dozens of people writing here, and in other forums, for
help with file sharing, there are hundreds of thousands of people who are using
their Vista / XP LANs with no problems.

And there are a dozen or so known causes of networking problems that aren't
hinted at in the standard Microsoft Vista document, that gets quoted here a lot.
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx

I can see your frustration. Maybe my tutorial will give you some more ideas.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

And we can certainly look at logs from "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net
config server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, which should
give us some idea what to look at next. Read this article, and linked articles,
and follow instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

Or if you like, you're welcome to continue diagnosing the problem on your own.
But try to diagnose it methodically.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

I've looked back over this and I can't even see what your problem is
supposed to be.
Please accurately describe the problem.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:53:33 -0700, "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Chuck [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:38:20 -0700, "MS"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>I am persistent. But after two weeks I am ready to
>>>give up.
>>>If you do a search there are probably 1000's of
>>>queries
>>>related to "can't get file and printer sharing."
>>>None on
>>>of these discussion results in a definitive solution
>>>beyond
>>>the usual "turn on file sharing and turn off the
>>>firewall."
>>>But that is not the full answer for so many of us.
>>>Then
>>>the trail suddenly turns cold ... the responses drift
>>>off.
>>>
>>>I am so frustrated by this problems that I am ready
>>>to
>>>revert to a wired network which will work flawlessly.
>>>Not
>>>without its problems but it is so much more robust
>>>and
>>>foolproof once set up properly.
>>>
>>>I had to become my own network admin at my medical
>>>office --
>>>successfully for the last 10 years. So I come to
>>>this
>>>problem not as a neophyte, novice or ...... newbie.
>>>
>>>1. The answer is either **highly** arcane but simple
>>>2. Not known
>>>3. A true "bug" or "limitation" of wireless
>>>networking
>>>software conventions that is trying to balance
>>>security with
>>>accessibility -- and failing.
>>>4. the differences between XP and Vista just compound
>>>an
>>>already insoluble problem.
>>>
>>>I wish someone, who is brilliant, would answer this
>>>question. Just do the search.
>>>
>>>Phil
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> I won't dispute the obvious fact that Vista is still,
>> obviously, a Beta product.
>> Even so, besides the dozens of people writing here,
>> and in other forums, for
>> help with file sharing, there are hundreds of
>> thousands of people who are using
>> their Vista / XP LANs with no problems.
>>
>> And there are a dozen or so known causes of
>> networking problems that aren't
>> hinted at in the standard Microsoft Vista document,
>> that gets quoted here a lot.
>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>>
>> I can see your frustration. Maybe my tutorial will
>> give you some more ideas.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html
>>
>> And we can certainly look at logs from "browstat
>> status", "ipconfig /all", "net
>> config server", and "net config workstation", from
>> each computer, which should
>> give us some idea what to look at next. Read this
>> article, and linked articles,
>> and follow instructions precisely (download
>> browstat!):
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>>
>> Or if you like, you're welcome to continue diagnosing
>> the problem on your own.
>> But try to diagnose it methodically.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

>Chuck,
>
>Thank you for this complete response. I have visited
>your site and is... complete blood overwhelming. Your
>quotation "there are hundreds of thousands of people
>who are using their Vista / XP LANs with no problems"
>does not solve the problem for the thousands of us
>still suffering.
>
>I would like to clear up one essential point if you
>please. Many of us are still using windows XP. I am
>aware that Windows Vista poses its own additional
>problems. I must repeat, in a *wired* LAN configuration
>none of these problems with file or printer sharing
>appears. This is only a problem in the wireless
>configuration. So you must admit there is something
>different about permissions and basic software
>conventions that differ between a wireless and wired
>LAN all other things being equal.
>
>So when you say hundreds of thousands are having a
>problem I will bet most of those are not using wireless
>LANs.
>
>Now I have gone to your site and have diligently played
>with cdiag.cmd. How do those of us who continue to
>have problems beyond the simple firewall and "check
>file and printer sharing" conventions go about
>submitting the cdiag.cmd results to you? How do you
>prefer the submissions?
>
>I have tried virtually every possible conceivable
>configuration. One limitation that I have that many
>others have is Comcast. Comcast does not allow static
>IPs. They prefer dynamic DHCP. This poses additional
>limitations. Nevertheless, I have designated each
>computer with a static TCP/IP address and designated
>the appropriate DNS1 and DNS2. Still no resolution of
>this problem. The computers do not see each other.
>They cannot ping each other.
>
>So please, if you will, let me know the netiquette and
>proper way of submitting results to you.
>
>Phil

Phil,

For 2 or 3 computers, CDiag is small enough to just paste into your response
here. Plenty of folks do just that, and it's not a security risk either. No
hacker is going to be reading these threads
"Oh boy, Chuck just asked for another CDiag run!! $$$"

Anyway, I understand your frustration. I get the same way, constantly.
Computers aren't simple. Never were, never will be. When they become simple,
it's because we're old and we can't see the details.

Now if WiFi is involved in the problem, it's relevant at the lower levels. If
you understand layered troubleshooting, and the OSI model, you'll see that WiFi
isn't so tricky. Just another layer of pain.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html

But it wouldn't hurt to start with the basic diagnostics either. Logs from
"browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and "net config
workstation", from each computer, is where we start, because many problems
become apparent there. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp

Now just for my personal edification, and since this thread seems to have a few
hangers on, are you also djrave808, g8rav8r, and / or MS?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:12:13 -0700, "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Chuck [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:53:33 -0700, "Phil"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>"Chuck [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:38:20 -0700, "MS"
>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am persistent. But after two weeks I am ready to
>>>>>give up.
>>>>>If you do a search there are probably 1000's of
>>>>>queries
>>>>>related to "can't get file and printer sharing."
>>>>>None on
>>>>>of these discussion results in a definitive
>>>>>solution
>>>>>beyond
>>>>>the usual "turn on file sharing and turn off the
>>>>>firewall."
>>>>>But that is not the full answer for so many of us.
>>>>>Then
>>>>>the trail suddenly turns cold ... the responses
>>>>>drift
>>>>>off.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am so frustrated by this problems that I am ready
>>>>>to
>>>>>revert to a wired network which will work
>>>>>flawlessly.
>>>>>Not
>>>>>without its problems but it is so much more robust
>>>>>and
>>>>>foolproof once set up properly.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had to become my own network admin at my medical
>>>>>office --
>>>>>successfully for the last 10 years. So I come to
>>>>>this
>>>>>problem not as a neophyte, novice or ...... newbie.
>>>>>
>>>>>1. The answer is either **highly** arcane but
>>>>>simple
>>>>>2. Not known
>>>>>3. A true "bug" or "limitation" of wireless
>>>>>networking
>>>>>software conventions that is trying to balance
>>>>>security with
>>>>>accessibility -- and failing.
>>>>>4. the differences between XP and Vista just
>>>>>compound
>>>>>an
>>>>>already insoluble problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>I wish someone, who is brilliant, would answer this
>>>>>question. Just do the search.
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil
>>>>
>>>> Phil,
>>>>
>>>> I won't dispute the obvious fact that Vista is
>>>> still,
>>>> obviously, a Beta product.
>>>> Even so, besides the dozens of people writing here,
>>>> and in other forums, for
>>>> help with file sharing, there are hundreds of
>>>> thousands of people who are using
>>>> their Vista / XP LANs with no problems.
>>>>
>>>> And there are a dozen or so known causes of
>>>> networking problems that aren't
>>>> hinted at in the standard Microsoft Vista document,
>>>> that gets quoted here a lot.
>>>> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/evaluate/vista_fp.mspx>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>>>>
>>>> I can see your frustration. Maybe my tutorial will
>>>> give you some more ideas.
>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html
>>>>
>>>> And we can certainly look at logs from "browstat
>>>> status", "ipconfig /all", "net
>>>> config server", and "net config workstation", from
>>>> each computer, which should
>>>> give us some idea what to look at next. Read this
>>>> article, and linked articles,
>>>> and follow instructions precisely (download
>>>> browstat!):
>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>>>>
>>>> Or if you like, you're welcome to continue
>>>> diagnosing
>>>> the problem on your own.
>>>> But try to diagnose it methodically.
>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html
>>
>>>Chuck,
>>>
>>>Thank you for this complete response. I have visited
>>>your site and is... complete blood overwhelming.
>>>Your
>>>quotation "there are hundreds of thousands of people
>>>who are using their Vista / XP LANs with no problems"
>>>does not solve the problem for the thousands of us
>>>still suffering.
>>>
>>>I would like to clear up one essential point if you
>>>please. Many of us are still using windows XP. I am
>>>aware that Windows Vista poses its own additional
>>>problems. I must repeat, in a *wired* LAN
>>>configuration
>>>none of these problems with file or printer sharing
>>>appears. This is only a problem in the wireless
>>>configuration. So you must admit there is something
>>>different about permissions and basic software
>>>conventions that differ between a wireless and wired
>>>LAN all other things being equal.
>>>
>>>So when you say hundreds of thousands are having a
>>>problem I will bet most of those are not using
>>>wireless
>>>LANs.
>>>
>>>Now I have gone to your site and have diligently
>>>played
>>>with cdiag.cmd. How do those of us who continue to
>>>have problems beyond the simple firewall and "check
>>>file and printer sharing" conventions go about
>>>submitting the cdiag.cmd results to you? How do you
>>>prefer the submissions?
>>>
>>>I have tried virtually every possible conceivable
>>>configuration. One limitation that I have that many
>>>others have is Comcast. Comcast does not allow
>>>static
>>>IPs. They prefer dynamic DHCP. This poses additional
>>>limitations. Nevertheless, I have designated each
>>>computer with a static TCP/IP address and designated
>>>the appropriate DNS1 and DNS2. Still no resolution
>>>of
>>>this problem. The computers do not see each other.
>>>They cannot ping each other.
>>>
>>>So please, if you will, let me know the netiquette
>>>and
>>>proper way of submitting results to you.
>>>
>>>Phil
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> For 2 or 3 computers, CDiag is small enough to just
>> paste into your response
>> here. Plenty of folks do just that, and it's not a
>> security risk either. No
>> hacker is going to be reading these threads
>> "Oh boy, Chuck just asked for another CDiag run!!
>> $$$"
>>
>> Anyway, I understand your frustration. I get the
>> same way, constantly.
>> Computers aren't simple. Never were, never will be.
>> When they become simple,
>> it's because we're old and we can't see the details.
>>
>> Now if WiFi is involved in the problem, it's relevant
>> at the lower levels. If
>> you understand layered troubleshooting, and the OSI
>> model, you'll see that WiFi
>> isn't so tricky. Just another layer of pain.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-tutorial.html
>>
>> But it wouldn't hurt to start with the basic
>> diagnostics either. Logs from
>> "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config
>> server", and "net config
>> workstation", from each computer, is where we start,
>> because many problems
>> become apparent there. Read this article, and linked
>> articles, and follow
>> instructions precisely (download browstat!):
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>>
>> Now just for my personal edification, and since this
>> thread seems to have a few
>> hangers on, are you also djrave808, g8rav8r, and / or
>> MS?

>Chuck,
>
>I know this is delayed .. but I have spent a huge
>amount of time checking, double and triple checking my
>system. There is nothing wrong with this system of 3
>home computers. I am now convinced the problem is that
>Infrastructure mode prevents true peer to peer file
>sharing. We must use "ad hoc" computer to commuter
>(peer to peer) mode which less secure and probably does
>not serve my purposes. I have diligently worked
>through a series of "netsh" commands, "route print"
>commands as well as your own cdiag.
>
>This is the only answer to why so many of these threads
>just drop off.
>
>I don't think infrastructure mode will allow peer to
>peer sharing....
>
>Please tell all of us we are missing something, because
>the only other answer is there is something flawed
>about the WRVS4400N VPN router (which almost no one has
>any experience with -- too new).
>
>regards,
>Phil

Phil,

I won't tell you with 100% certainty that you are wrong. With networking,
there's always something new to learn.

But in my experience, properly designed and functional hardware, against
properly configured operating systems, WILL work in infrastructure mode, with
peer to peer sharing.

So why not let us see some diagnostic logs, like "ipconfig /all", "net config
server", and "net config workstation", from each computer, so we can help
diagnose the problem. Many people post their logs here, and sometimes learn
something new.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.