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      12-27-2005, 05:29 PM
So I have the MN-700 with the latest firmware, my network is working fine
(knocking on wood). I have a NAS device that works as well as a printer, I
recently purchased a network IP cam and cannot get it working. The router
gives it an IP address and I assign it to a port, I then have persistent port
forwarding setup for that port and the IP cams ip address (I even setup
application based port forwarding) but when I type in my external IP address
it brings me to the router logon screen and not the camera (yest I add the
port it is assigned to the web address also). When I type in my ipcams
internal address from within my network it does bring me to the camera. When
I try to access from outside my network I get page cannot be found (using my
real IP address). I have even tried changing the port to many different
values, currently I have it set to port 8888.

I have no idea what is going on, I know what my real IP address is (it is
not a static one but that shouldn't matter) and I set the ports up on the
camera as well as the router but I cannot get to any page from outside my
network. Is there some setting that I am missing inside the MN-700?

Thanks
 
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      12-27-2005, 06:03 PM
Well first off remove any entries for application triggered port
forwarding, as that is only to be used if your computer sends a request
on one port & receives the response on a different port. This type of
application needs persistent port forwarding as running a web server
would also.

I also don't see how you could access the BSMT from the WAN IP address
as this feature is not supported in the MN-100, the MN-500, or even the
MN-700 router. That really makes me think you don't know what is going
on with your MN-700.

My only questions are the following. With persistent port forwarding
setup for all the questions as well.

1) What happens when you type in the WAN IP address (You get this
address from signing into the MN-700) like this http://*.*.*.*:8888 from
a different location? (You can replace the 8888 with whatever port you
are running it on.)



2) What happens when you type in the WAN IP address (You get this
address from signing into the MN-700) like this http://*.*.*.*:8888 from
behind the MN-700? (You can replace the 8888 with whatever port you are
running it on.)



3) Are you using another router connected to the MN-700?



That is my first set of questions for you. I might ask more depending
on the answers you give me until I have enough information to actually
help you.

Raistlin wrote:
> So I have the MN-700 with the latest firmware, my network is working fine
> (knocking on wood). I have a NAS device that works as well as a printer, I
> recently purchased a network IP cam and cannot get it working. The router
> gives it an IP address and I assign it to a port, I then have persistent port
> forwarding setup for that port and the IP cams ip address (I even setup
> application based port forwarding) but when I type in my external IP address
> it brings me to the router logon screen and not the camera (yest I add the
> port it is assigned to the web address also). When I type in my ipcams
> internal address from within my network it does bring me to the camera. When
> I try to access from outside my network I get page cannot be found (using my
> real IP address). I have even tried changing the port to many different
> values, currently I have it set to port 8888.
>
> I have no idea what is going on, I know what my real IP address is (it is
> not a static one but that shouldn't matter) and I set the ports up on the
> camera as well as the router but I cannot get to any page from outside my
> network. Is there some setting that I am missing inside the MN-700?
>
> Thanks


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      12-27-2005, 11:20 PM
OK I removed the application port forwarding, FYI this was not always on
during my testing, it was just a late attempt. I do not have another router
or switch hooked up, I am currently just using the MN-700 wireless and the
wired ports on back of it.

I typed in my WAN address plus my port from my home pc and it brought me to
my camera. Also when I type in my camera internal IP address and port I can
also get to my camera. I cannot try this yet from outside but I will
tomorrow. I signed up with dyndns.com for their free dynamic dns service,
but when I type in that address from inside my network I get the router
login, also when I type in my wan ip from inside my network, it brings me to
my router login (the name I assigned just directs to my wan ip). I know when
I try this address from outside my network I get page not found.

I will try this tomorrow while I am at work to see if my waniport will
work. On a side note, how is dyndns supposed to get me to my webcam if it
only forwards to my wanip?

Thanks

"Joe Crown" wrote:

> Well first off remove any entries for application triggered port
> forwarding, as that is only to be used if your computer sends a request
> on one port & receives the response on a different port. This type of
> application needs persistent port forwarding as running a web server
> would also.
>
> I also don't see how you could access the BSMT from the WAN IP address
> as this feature is not supported in the MN-100, the MN-500, or even the
> MN-700 router. That really makes me think you don't know what is going
> on with your MN-700.
>
> My only questions are the following. With persistent port forwarding
> setup for all the questions as well.
>
> 1) What happens when you type in the WAN IP address (You get this
> address from signing into the MN-700) like this http://*.*.*.*:8888 from
> a different location? (You can replace the 8888 with whatever port you
> are running it on.)
>
>
>
> 2) What happens when you type in the WAN IP address (You get this
> address from signing into the MN-700) like this http://*.*.*.*:8888 from
> behind the MN-700? (You can replace the 8888 with whatever port you are
> running it on.)
>
>
>
> 3) Are you using another router connected to the MN-700?
>
>
>
> That is my first set of questions for you. I might ask more depending
> on the answers you give me until I have enough information to actually
> help you.
>
> Raistlin wrote:
> > So I have the MN-700 with the latest firmware, my network is working fine
> > (knocking on wood). I have a NAS device that works as well as a printer, I
> > recently purchased a network IP cam and cannot get it working. The router
> > gives it an IP address and I assign it to a port, I then have persistent port
> > forwarding setup for that port and the IP cams ip address (I even setup
> > application based port forwarding) but when I type in my external IP address
> > it brings me to the router logon screen and not the camera (yest I add the
> > port it is assigned to the web address also). When I type in my ipcams
> > internal address from within my network it does bring me to the camera. When
> > I try to access from outside my network I get page cannot be found (using my
> > real IP address). I have even tried changing the port to many different
> > values, currently I have it set to port 8888.
> >
> > I have no idea what is going on, I know what my real IP address is (it is
> > not a static one but that shouldn't matter) and I set the ports up on the
> > camera as well as the router but I cannot get to any page from outside my
> > network. Is there some setting that I am missing inside the MN-700?
> >
> > Thanks

>
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> assistance.
>
> If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>
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> time.
>
> If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
> posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
> to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
> technical question.)
>

 
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      12-28-2005, 04:04 AM
Include the port number like I showed you.
NameToWANAddress:PortNumberUsing That is all there is to it.

Here is an example.

http://www.makezine.com.nyud.net:809...impses_of.html

Please note I added .nyud.net:8090 to the address. This should show you
how it works. I created this link in Internet explorer so I can read an
article that has been /.ed. If you have no idea what that is you need
to read http://slashdot.org as that is what "/." is referring to. That
is how I deal with the /. effect.

Raistlin wrote:
> OK I removed the application port forwarding, FYI this was not always on
> during my testing, it was just a late attempt. I do not have another router
> or switch hooked up, I am currently just using the MN-700 wireless and the
> wired ports on back of it.
>
> I typed in my WAN address plus my port from my home pc and it brought me to
> my camera. Also when I type in my camera internal IP address and port I can
> also get to my camera. I cannot try this yet from outside but I will
> tomorrow. I signed up with dyndns.com for their free dynamic dns service,
> but when I type in that address from inside my network I get the router
> login, also when I type in my wan ip from inside my network, it brings me to
> my router login (the name I assigned just directs to my wan ip). I know when
> I try this address from outside my network I get page not found.
>
> I will try this tomorrow while I am at work to see if my waniport will
> work. On a side note, how is dyndns supposed to get me to my webcam if it
> only forwards to my wanip?
>
> Thanks
>



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http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
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If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
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      12-28-2005, 04:00 PM
Thanks, I got it working. I thought the blocking incoming pings messed
something up, but it was really just my stupidity. I know for a fact that I
did try my ip address with the port number from work and I got a page not
found, but that was several days ago and I am sure I had some other setting
wrong that messed it up. I turned of the block imcp currently but I will
probably turn that block back on, that shouldn't have anythig to do with
seeing the camera correct? Thanks again for your help, just seeing your post
with your questions helped me straighten my thoughts out to figure it out
correctly. One of the IT guys here at work has a linksys router at home and
it has so many features that I thought maybe the mn-700 didn't have something
I needed. He is able to log into his router remotely, but we are not
correct? I only get to my router login when I type in my wanip from within
my network, I get a page not found from outside my network.

Thanks!!!

"Joe Crown" wrote:

> Include the port number like I showed you.
> NameToWANAddress:PortNumberUsing That is all there is to it.
>
> Here is an example.
>
> http://www.makezine.com.nyud.net:809...impses_of.html
>
> Please note I added .nyud.net:8090 to the address. This should show you
> how it works. I created this link in Internet explorer so I can read an
> article that has been /.ed. If you have no idea what that is you need
> to read http://slashdot.org as that is what "/." is referring to. That
> is how I deal with the /. effect.
>
> Raistlin wrote:
> > OK I removed the application port forwarding, FYI this was not always on
> > during my testing, it was just a late attempt. I do not have another router
> > or switch hooked up, I am currently just using the MN-700 wireless and the
> > wired ports on back of it.
> >
> > I typed in my WAN address plus my port from my home pc and it brought me to
> > my camera. Also when I type in my camera internal IP address and port I can
> > also get to my camera. I cannot try this yet from outside but I will
> > tomorrow. I signed up with dyndns.com for their free dynamic dns service,
> > but when I type in that address from inside my network I get the router
> > login, also when I type in my wan ip from inside my network, it brings me to
> > my router login (the name I assigned just directs to my wan ip). I know when
> > I try this address from outside my network I get page not found.
> >
> > I will try this tomorrow while I am at work to see if my waniport will
> > work. On a side note, how is dyndns supposed to get me to my webcam if it
> > only forwards to my wanip?
> >
> > Thanks
> >

>
>
> --
> Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for
> assistance.
>
> If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>
> If it’s not worth posting you should have done a search on
> http://www.google.com/ http://www.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg&q= or
> http://news.google.com/froogle?hl=en&tab=nf&ned=us&q= before wasting our
> time.
>
> If I sound hostile or arrogant you need to read the following before
> posting a question "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" at
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (The site I've linked
> to just has this article I think people should read before posting a
> technical question.)
>

 
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      12-29-2005, 12:19 AM
Correct you can only connect to the BSMT from behind the MN-700. The
workaround is to use something like remote desktop on one of the
computers, then you can configure the MN-700 while you are away from it.
I also highly recommend enabling the disable pings as it save the
MN-700 processor time as well as reducing the visibility of your home
network. This is because many hackers first see if they get a reply
from the address & if they do then they will put you in their watch
list, after that they will try to break into your network. So it adds a
small bit of security, but it doesn't make you 100% secure. Also you
can sign into the LAN IP address of the MN-700 or the name that you have
assigned to it, if you are behind it.

Raistlin wrote:
> Thanks, I got it working. I thought the blocking incoming pings messed
> something up, but it was really just my stupidity. I know for a fact that I
> did try my ip address with the port number from work and I got a page not
> found, but that was several days ago and I am sure I had some other setting
> wrong that messed it up. I turned of the block imcp currently but I will
> probably turn that block back on, that shouldn't have anythig to do with
> seeing the camera correct? Thanks again for your help, just seeing your post
> with your questions helped me straighten my thoughts out to figure it out
> correctly. One of the IT guys here at work has a linksys router at home and
> it has so many features that I thought maybe the mn-700 didn't have something
> I needed. He is able to log into his router remotely, but we are not
> correct? I only get to my router login when I type in my wanip from within
> my network, I get a page not found from outside my network.
>
> Thanks!!!
>



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