Cannot ping DC server

I have 4 servers all on the same subnet. I have promoted 1 server to be a
domain controller with AD. All servers are W2003 Servers with SP1 and latest
updates. I am trying to join one of the servers to the domain but receive a
timeout message. When I ping the server I also receive a timeout. But, I
can ping the other servers and receive replies just fine. So, does promoting
a server as a DC close some network capabilities. My DC is a Windows 2003
Server (Standard version) whereas my other servers are W2003 Enterprise Ed.
Could this have anything to do with it? The DC came with Standard version
already installed. I had installed Ent. Ed. on my other servers some time
ago. I was told the versioning differences shouldn't cause any problems.

(Sorry for the cross posting with DNS group but I would bet I set up DNS
just fine. It's now another issue).

Thanks,
Johnny

is the firewall enabled?
mixing standard/enterprise editions of windows is fine

"Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4B84D7BD-BC80-4D92-A094-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have 4 servers all on the same subnet. I have promoted 1 server to be a
> domain controller with AD. All servers are W2003 Servers with SP1 and
> latest
> updates. I am trying to join one of the servers to the domain but receive
> a
> timeout message. When I ping the server I also receive a timeout. But, I
> can ping the other servers and receive replies just fine. So, does
> promoting
> a server as a DC close some network capabilities. My DC is a Windows 2003
> Server (Standard version) whereas my other servers are W2003 Enterprise
> Ed.
> Could this have anything to do with it? The DC came with Standard version
> already installed. I had installed Ent. Ed. on my other servers some time
> ago. I was told the versioning differences shouldn't cause any problems.
>
> (Sorry for the cross posting with DNS group but I would bet I set up DNS
> just fine. It's now another issue).
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny

Good question, sorry I did not anticipate that question, no, the firewall is
not enabled.

"seth" wrote:

> is the firewall enabled?
> mixing standard/enterprise editions of windows is fine
>
> "Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4B84D7BD-BC80-4D92-A094-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have 4 servers all on the same subnet. I have promoted 1 server to be a
> > domain controller with AD. All servers are W2003 Servers with SP1 and
> > latest
> > updates. I am trying to join one of the servers to the domain but receive
> > a
> > timeout message. When I ping the server I also receive a timeout. But, I
> > can ping the other servers and receive replies just fine. So, does
> > promoting
> > a server as a DC close some network capabilities. My DC is a Windows 2003
> > Server (Standard version) whereas my other servers are W2003 Enterprise
> > Ed.
> > Could this have anything to do with it? The DC came with Standard version
> > already installed. I had installed Ent. Ed. on my other servers some time
> > ago. I was told the versioning differences shouldn't cause any problems.
> >
> > (Sorry for the cross posting with DNS group but I would bet I set up DNS
> > just fine. It's now another issue).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Johnny
>
>
>

When I go to Control Panel/Windows Firewall, it tells me "Windows Firewall
cannot run b/c another program or service is running that might use the
network address translation component (Ipnat.sys)."

"seth" wrote:

> is the firewall enabled?
> mixing standard/enterprise editions of windows is fine
>
> "Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4B84D7BD-BC80-4D92-A094-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I have 4 servers all on the same subnet. I have promoted 1 server to be a
> > domain controller with AD. All servers are W2003 Servers with SP1 and
> > latest
> > updates. I am trying to join one of the servers to the domain but receive
> > a
> > timeout message. When I ping the server I also receive a timeout. But, I
> > can ping the other servers and receive replies just fine. So, does
> > promoting
> > a server as a DC close some network capabilities. My DC is a Windows 2003
> > Server (Standard version) whereas my other servers are W2003 Enterprise
> > Ed.
> > Could this have anything to do with it? The DC came with Standard version
> > already installed. I had installed Ent. Ed. on my other servers some time
> > ago. I was told the versioning differences shouldn't cause any problems.
> >
> > (Sorry for the cross posting with DNS group but I would bet I set up DNS
> > just fine. It's now another issue).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Johnny
>
>
>

using rras?

"Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:2C65AE02-F3B3-4006-AFD5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> When I go to Control Panel/Windows Firewall, it tells me "Windows Firewall
> cannot run b/c another program or service is running that might use the
> network address translation component (Ipnat.sys)."
>
> "seth" wrote:
>
>> is the firewall enabled?
>> mixing standard/enterprise editions of windows is fine
>>
>> "Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:4B84D7BD-BC80-4D92-A094-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I have 4 servers all on the same subnet. I have promoted 1 server to be
>> >a
>> > domain controller with AD. All servers are W2003 Servers with SP1 and
>> > latest
>> > updates. I am trying to join one of the servers to the domain but
>> > receive
>> > a
>> > timeout message. When I ping the server I also receive a timeout.
>> > But, I
>> > can ping the other servers and receive replies just fine. So, does
>> > promoting
>> > a server as a DC close some network capabilities. My DC is a Windows
>> > 2003
>> > Server (Standard version) whereas my other servers are W2003 Enterprise
>> > Ed.
>> > Could this have anything to do with it? The DC came with Standard
>> > version
>> > already installed. I had installed Ent. Ed. on my other servers some
>> > time
>> > ago. I was told the versioning differences shouldn't cause any
>> > problems.
>> >
>> > (Sorry for the cross posting with DNS group but I would bet I set up
>> > DNS
>> > just fine. It's now another issue).
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Johnny
>>
>>
>>

Seth, you are DA MAN!!!!!! I had no clue what RRAS was so I searched the
help topics. RRAS (Routing and Remote Access Service) must have been
installed by default from the factory. This is the only server that I have
not installed the OS myself and that's why in my DNS post when asked about
firewalls I said I did not have one installed unless there was something
installed by default. I see RRAS has some form of a basic firewall as one of
its components. As soon as I stopped the RRAS service, I was able to ping
the server and then join it to my domain. I bet Ace would like to kill me
but I had no clue........

If I have a NAT router in front of all my servers, should I just remove this
service? Or, will it have value and just try to configure it to work with my
domain?

Thanks for the help!!!
Johnny

"seth" wrote:

> using rras?
>
> "Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:2C65AE02-F3B3-4006-AFD5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > When I go to Control Panel/Windows Firewall, it tells me "Windows Firewall
> > cannot run b/c another program or service is running that might use the
> > network address translation component (Ipnat.sys)."
> >
> > "seth" wrote:
> >
> >> is the firewall enabled?
> >> mixing standard/enterprise editions of windows is fine
> >>
> >> "Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:4B84D7BD-BC80-4D92-A094-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I have 4 servers all on the same subnet. I have promoted 1 server to be
> >> >a
> >> > domain controller with AD. All servers are W2003 Servers with SP1 and
> >> > latest
> >> > updates. I am trying to join one of the servers to the domain but
> >> > receive
> >> > a
> >> > timeout message. When I ping the server I also receive a timeout.
> >> > But, I
> >> > can ping the other servers and receive replies just fine. So, does
> >> > promoting
> >> > a server as a DC close some network capabilities. My DC is a Windows
> >> > 2003
> >> > Server (Standard version) whereas my other servers are W2003 Enterprise
> >> > Ed.
> >> > Could this have anything to do with it? The DC came with Standard
> >> > version
> >> > already installed. I had installed Ent. Ed. on my other servers some
> >> > time
> >> > ago. I was told the versioning differences shouldn't cause any
> >> > problems.
> >> >
> >> > (Sorry for the cross posting with DNS group but I would bet I set up
> >> > DNS
> >> > just fine. It's now another issue).
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Johnny
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

"Johnny Rio" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:42CFF27A-C293-4685-B3AF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> If I have a NAT router in front of all my servers, should I just remove
this
> service? Or, will it have value and just try to configure it to work with
my
> domain?

No value,...that I can see. NAT Devices are for running on the Network Edge
that separate it from the Public Internet.

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