Cannot Add XP PC to ME Network -Help!

I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected through
a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines both wired to
the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to be
part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I can get
the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem to get the
XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's. It does
not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to be
signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are all
shut down for purposes of setting up this network.

Your help is appreciated

I am having the same proplem. I have an ME , an XP and a
Linksys wireless PCI card WMP11. Has you question been
answered? Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and
connected through
>a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these
machines both wired to
>the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
>I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting
to get it to be
>part of the network as well, so we can share files and
internet. I can get
>the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but
cannot seem to get the
>XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of
the PC's. It does
>not even acknowlege being logged into the network when
booted up.
>I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers
needing to be
>signed in under the same administator-is this something I
need to
>address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My
firewalls are all
>shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
>
>Your help is appreciated
>
>
>.
>

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"Gorenstein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:UUDkb.832143$uu5.147122@sccrnsc04...
> I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected
through
> a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines both wired to
> the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
> I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to be
> part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I can
get
> the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem to get
the
> XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's. It
does
> not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
> I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to be
> signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
> address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are all
> shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
>
> Your help is appreciated
>
>

This website does not provide me any answers-Thanks for the link however.
dg
"Carey Holzman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
> Carey
>
> "Gorenstein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:UUDkb.832143$uu5.147122@sccrnsc04...
> > I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected
> through
> > a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines both wired
to
> > the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
> > I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to
be
> > part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I can
> get
> > the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem to get
> the
> > XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's. It
> does
> > not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
> > I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to be
> > signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
> > address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are
all
> > shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
> >
> > Your help is appreciated
> >
> >
>
>

On the contrary... Everything you need to know to fix your problem is there.
If you can't be bothered to follow each step, then I'm afraid there is
nothing more anyone can offer.

Carey

"David" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:VwIkb.507596$(E-Mail Removed). net...
> This website does not provide me any answers-Thanks for the link however.
> dg
> "Carey Holzman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
> >
> > Carey
> >
> > "Gorenstein" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:UUDkb.832143$uu5.147122@sccrnsc04...
> > > I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected
> > through
> > > a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines both
wired
> to
> > > the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
> > > I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to
> be
> > > part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I
can
> > get
> > > the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem to
get
> > the
> > > XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's. It
> > does
> > > not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
> > > I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to
be
> > > signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
> > > address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are
> all
> > > shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
> > >
> > > Your help is appreciated
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Carey Holzman"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>> I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected
>>>>through a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines both
>>>>wired to the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
>>>>I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to
>>>>be part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I can
>>>>get the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem to get
>>>>the XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's. It
>>>>does not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
>>>>I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to be
>>>>signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
>>>>address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are
>>>>all shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
>>>
>>> www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>
>>This website does not provide me any answers-Thanks for the link however.
>>dg
>
>On the contrary... Everything you need to know to fix your problem is there.
>If you can't be bothered to follow each step, then I'm afraid there is
>nothing more anyone can offer.

I posted a reply to this message several hours ago, but it appears to
have been lost due to a news server problem. I apologize if this
message is a duplicate.

Carey, in my opinion, your latest reply is nonsense. No web page is
the final authority on anything, no one knows all the answers, and you
can't speak for anyone else.

David, double check the encryption key that you've specified for the
wireless network adapter, and make sure that it matches the wireless
router's encryption key. If it doesn't, the wireless adapter can
connect to the router, but it won't be able to communicate with the
network. Make sure that 802.1x authentication is disabled. If it's
enabled, the connection can drop after a short time.

If possible, connect XP Pro to the router using a wired Ethernet
cable. That will quickly show whether the wireless connection is the
problem.

Run the Network Setup Wizard on XP Pro to fully enable file sharing.
Tell it that the computer connects to the Internet through a
"residential gateway", which is the Wizard's name for a router.

Permanently disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on the wireless
network connection -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
to the Internet.

Don't just shut down other firewall programs -- un-install them, then
go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable any firewall
remnants. Don't re-install a firewall program until everything is
working. Your router acts as a firewall, protecting your computer
against Internet-based attacks.

Use the same, single network protocol for File and Printer Sharing on
all computers. Installing a second network protocol, even on one
computer, can completely disrupt the network, especially when XP is
involved.

Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled:

1. Open the Network Connections folder.
2. Right click the wireless network connection and click Properties.
3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
4. Click Advanced.
5. Click WINS.
6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.

If those tips don't get everything working, please reply to this
message in the news group with more information to help other people
understand the problem.

Does XP Pro's wireless network connection get an IP address from the
router (probably 192.168.x.x)? Does it get an auto-configured
169.254.x.x IP address?

If it gets an IP address, can it ping itself, both by IP address and
by computer name? Can it ping the other computers by IP address and
computer name? Can they ping it?

Can it ping an Internet site by IP address and by name? For example:

ping 216.239.39.100
ping www.google.com
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

You're entitled to your opinion. For what it's worth, everyone, and I mean
EVERYONE who has told me the list did not solve their problem told me what
they did to fix their problem, and I pointed out the solution was already on
the list.

So, if someone has a solution that is not already on my list, I'd like to
see it.

This is not to say the list cannot be enhanced, but it is to say if you know
of a way to fix your network that is not already on the list, why be selfish
with the answer? Share with us and my list will be that much more complete.
No one has had anything to add to the list in the last 2 years.

I'd love to put more info on it... But, as of it's latest update and today,
no one has shared any other solutions.

I don't make this stuff up. It's compiled, research and rigorously tested
data that stands up as facts and not voodoo. So I must disagree with you
that no one list can solve all networking problems. There are only so many
problems, so unless you believe in witchcraft or voodoo, one thorough list
SHOULD be able to do it.

In the meantime, if this person who posted asking for help resolves their
problem, I hope he/she shares it with us so we can determine if it was on
the list or not...

We can bicker endlessly but that helps neither you, me or the person asking
the question. When the person refuses to go through the list, it's like
turning down a prescription to cure an illness because you don't like the
color of the pills.

Nothing I hate worse then offering someone help and then being insulted for
it in return. All I did was offer a solution. He didn't even try it. Your
response in this matter was unnecessary and wasn't very helpful.

If you have something you'd like to see added, a more constructive response
would be appropriate and helpful.

Thank you,
Carey

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Carey Holzman"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>> I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected
> >>>>through a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines
both
> >>>>wired to the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
> >>>>I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to
> >>>>be part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I
can
> >>>>get the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem
to get
> >>>>the XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's.
It
> >>>>does not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
> >>>>I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to
be
> >>>>signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
> >>>>address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are
> >>>>all shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
> >>>
> >>> www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
> >
> >>This website does not provide me any answers-Thanks for the link
however.
> >>dg
> >
> >On the contrary... Everything you need to know to fix your problem is
there.
> >If you can't be bothered to follow each step, then I'm afraid there is
> >nothing more anyone can offer.
>
> I posted a reply to this message several hours ago, but it appears to
> have been lost due to a news server problem. I apologize if this
> message is a duplicate.
>
> Carey, in my opinion, your latest reply is nonsense. No web page is
> the final authority on anything, no one knows all the answers, and you
> can't speak for anyone else.
>
> David, double check the encryption key that you've specified for the
> wireless network adapter, and make sure that it matches the wireless
> router's encryption key. If it doesn't, the wireless adapter can
> connect to the router, but it won't be able to communicate with the
> network. Make sure that 802.1x authentication is disabled. If it's
> enabled, the connection can drop after a short time.
>
> If possible, connect XP Pro to the router using a wired Ethernet
> cable. That will quickly show whether the wireless connection is the
> problem.
>
> Run the Network Setup Wizard on XP Pro to fully enable file sharing.
> Tell it that the computer connects to the Internet through a
> "residential gateway", which is the Wizard's name for a router.
>
> Permanently disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on the wireless
> network connection -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
> to the Internet.
>
> Don't just shut down other firewall programs -- un-install them, then
> go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable any firewall
> remnants. Don't re-install a firewall program until everything is
> working. Your router acts as a firewall, protecting your computer
> against Internet-based attacks.
>
> Use the same, single network protocol for File and Printer Sharing on
> all computers. Installing a second network protocol, even on one
> computer, can completely disrupt the network, especially when XP is
> involved.
>
> Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder.
> 2. Right click the wireless network connection and click Properties.
> 3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
> 4. Click Advanced.
> 5. Click WINS.
> 6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.
>
> If those tips don't get everything working, please reply to this
> message in the news group with more information to help other people
> understand the problem.
>
> Does XP Pro's wireless network connection get an IP address from the
> router (probably 192.168.x.x)? Does it get an auto-configured
> 169.254.x.x IP address?
>
> If it gets an IP address, can it ping itself, both by IP address and
> by computer name? Can it ping the other computers by IP address and
> computer name? Can they ping it?
>
> Can it ping an Internet site by IP address and by name? For example:
>
> ping 216.239.39.100
> ping www.google.com
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Steve thanks for the additional directions-I do not get a IP address from
the router, instead I get the 169. address. Additionally, I do not get the
normal windows password login screen like my other networked ME machines
when I am about to connect to the network.
dg


"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Carey Holzman"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>>> I have an existing desktop and laptop both running ME and connected
> >>>>through a Linksys Router WRT54G. All works well with these machines
both
> >>>>wired to the router and through a wireless conection on the laptop.
> >>>>I just built a XP Pro system for my son and am attempting to get it to
> >>>>be part of the network as well, so we can share files and internet. I
can
> >>>>get the wireless adapter to connect to the router OK, but cannot seem
to get
> >>>>the XP machine to show up as part of the workgroup on any of the PC's.
It
> >>>>does not even acknowlege being logged into the network when booted up.
> >>>>I am at a loss. I read something about all the computers needing to
be
> >>>>signed in under the same administator-is this something I need to
> >>>>address???. I have a simple workgroup-no domain etc.My firewalls are
> >>>>all shut down for purposes of setting up this network.
> >>>
> >>> www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
> >
> >>This website does not provide me any answers-Thanks for the link
however.
> >>dg
> >
> >On the contrary... Everything you need to know to fix your problem is
there.
> >If you can't be bothered to follow each step, then I'm afraid there is
> >nothing more anyone can offer.
>
> I posted a reply to this message several hours ago, but it appears to
> have been lost due to a news server problem. I apologize if this
> message is a duplicate.
>
> Carey, in my opinion, your latest reply is nonsense. No web page is
> the final authority on anything, no one knows all the answers, and you
> can't speak for anyone else.
>
> David, double check the encryption key that you've specified for the
> wireless network adapter, and make sure that it matches the wireless
> router's encryption key. If it doesn't, the wireless adapter can
> connect to the router, but it won't be able to communicate with the
> network. Make sure that 802.1x authentication is disabled. If it's
> enabled, the connection can drop after a short time.
>
> If possible, connect XP Pro to the router using a wired Ethernet
> cable. That will quickly show whether the wireless connection is the
> problem.
>
> Run the Network Setup Wizard on XP Pro to fully enable file sharing.
> Tell it that the computer connects to the Internet through a
> "residential gateway", which is the Wizard's name for a router.
>
> Permanently disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on the wireless
> network connection -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
> to the Internet.
>
> Don't just shut down other firewall programs -- un-install them, then
> go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable any firewall
> remnants. Don't re-install a firewall program until everything is
> working. Your router acts as a firewall, protecting your computer
> against Internet-based attacks.
>
> Use the same, single network protocol for File and Printer Sharing on
> all computers. Installing a second network protocol, even on one
> computer, can completely disrupt the network, especially when XP is
> involved.
>
> Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled:
>
> 1. Open the Network Connections folder.
> 2. Right click the wireless network connection and click Properties.
> 3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
> 4. Click Advanced.
> 5. Click WINS.
> 6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.
>
> If those tips don't get everything working, please reply to this
> message in the news group with more information to help other people
> understand the problem.
>
> Does XP Pro's wireless network connection get an IP address from the
> router (probably 192.168.x.x)? Does it get an auto-configured
> 169.254.x.x IP address?
>
> If it gets an IP address, can it ping itself, both by IP address and
> by computer name? Can it ping the other computers by IP address and
> computer name? Can they ping it?
>
> Can it ping an Internet site by IP address and by name? For example:
>
> ping 216.239.39.100
> ping www.google.com
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

In article <k4clb.605022$cF.271971@rwcrnsc53>, "David"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> David, double check the encryption key that you've specified for the
>> wireless network adapter, and make sure that it matches the wireless
>> router's encryption key. If it doesn't, the wireless adapter can
>> connect to the router, but it won't be able to communicate with the
>> network. Make sure that 802.1x authentication is disabled. If it's
>> enabled, the connection can drop after a short time.
>>
>> If possible, connect XP Pro to the router using a wired Ethernet
>> cable. That will quickly show whether the wireless connection is the
>> problem.
>>
>> Run the Network Setup Wizard on XP Pro to fully enable file sharing.
>> Tell it that the computer connects to the Internet through a
>> "residential gateway", which is the Wizard's name for a router.
>>
>> Permanently disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on the wireless
>> network connection -- it's for use only on a direct modem connection
>> to the Internet.
>>
>> Don't just shut down other firewall programs -- un-install them, then
>> go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable any firewall
>> remnants. Don't re-install a firewall program until everything is
>> working. Your router acts as a firewall, protecting your computer
>> against Internet-based attacks.
>>
>> Use the same, single network protocol for File and Printer Sharing on
>> all computers. Installing a second network protocol, even on one
>> computer, can completely disrupt the network, especially when XP is
>> involved.
>>
>> Make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT) is enabled:
>>
>> 1. Open the Network Connections folder.
>> 2. Right click the wireless network connection and click Properties.
>> 3. Double click Internet Protocol (TCP/IP).
>> 4. Click Advanced.
>> 5. Click WINS.
>> 6. Click the Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP button.
>>
>> If those tips don't get everything working, please reply to this
>> message in the news group with more information to help other people
>> understand the problem.
>>
>> Does XP Pro's wireless network connection get an IP address from the
>> router (probably 192.168.x.x)? Does it get an auto-configured
>> 169.254.x.x IP address?
>>
>> If it gets an IP address, can it ping itself, both by IP address and
>> by computer name? Can it ping the other computers by IP address and
>> computer name? Can they ping it?
>>
>> Can it ping an Internet site by IP address and by name? For example:
>>
>> ping 216.239.39.100
>> ping www.google.com
>
>Steve thanks for the additional directions-I do not get a IP address from
>the router, instead I get the 169. address. Additionally, I do not get the
>normal windows password login screen like my other networked ME machines
>when I am about to connect to the network.
>dg

David, I don't know which of my suggestions you followed, so it's hard
to say what to do next. Did you check the wireless encryption
settings? Did you disable 802.1x authentication? Did you run the
Network Setup Wizard? Did you try a wired Ethernet adapter? Did you
completely un-install all firewall programs: ZoneAlarm, Norton
Internet Security, etc?

Windows XP doesn't have a Windows logon screen like ME.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm