Cannot access external pages

I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1 laptop; and I
can access my router configuration pages. I've tried stopping the
firewall, to no avail; I've tried using raw IP addresses to access
external pages (to avoid engaging DNS), too. How can I fix this?

It turns out that I can access a webpage from my server, however, so
the internal access is fine. However, external access is still
unavailable. Also, when I use an Ethernet cable, access to external
pages works fine. The main problem is external access using my
Centrino wireless card. The card is initialized and works fine for
internal access.

Also, I'm getting an IP from DHCP. I tried using a static IP, but it
made no difference. I can access everything from everywhere else on
the network.

In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth <(E-Mail Removed)>:
> I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1 laptop; and I
> can access my router configuration pages. I've tried stopping the
> firewall, to no avail; I've tried using raw IP addresses to access
> external pages (to avoid engaging DNS), too. How can I fix this?

> It turns out that I can access a webpage from my server, however, so
> the internal access is fine. However, external access is still
> unavailable. Also, when I use an Ethernet cable, access to external
> pages works fine. The main problem is external access using my
> Centrino wireless card. The card is initialized and works fine for
> internal access.

Sounds as if you are simply missing the proper default gateway,
if your wireless NIC is up. If you can't get it going, show us
the output of:

netstat -rn

[..]

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Here are the results of netstat -rn:

Kernel IP Routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lt

By the way, thanks for your help!

Michael Heiming <michael+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<phtk62-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth <(E-Mail Removed)>:
> > I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1 laptop; and I
> > can access my router configuration pages. I've tried stopping the
> > firewall, to no avail; I've tried using raw IP addresses to access
> > external pages (to avoid engaging DNS), too. How can I fix this?
>
> > It turns out that I can access a webpage from my server, however, so
> > the internal access is fine. However, external access is still
> > unavailable. Also, when I use an Ethernet cable, access to external
> > pages works fine. The main problem is external access using my
> > Centrino wireless card. The card is initialized and works fine for
> > internal access.
>
> Sounds as if you are simply missing the proper default gateway,
> if your wireless NIC is up. If you can't get it going, show us
> the output of:
>
> netstat -rn
>
> [..]

Will Hayworth wrote:
> Michael Heiming <michael+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<phtk62-(E-Mail Removed)>...
>
>>In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>
>>>I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1 laptop; and I
>>>can access my router configuration pages. I've tried stopping the
>>>firewall, to no avail; I've tried using raw IP addresses to access
>>>external pages (to avoid engaging DNS), too. How can I fix this?
>>
>>
>>
>>>It turns out that I can access a webpage from my server, however, so
>>>the internal access is fine. However, external access is still
>>>unavailable. Also, when I use an Ethernet cable, access to external
>>>pages works fine. The main problem is external access using my
>>>Centrino wireless card. The card is initialized and works fine for
>>>internal access.
>>
>>Sounds as if you are simply missing the proper default gateway,
>>if your wireless NIC is up. If you can't get it going, show us
>>the output of:
>>
>> netstat -rn
>>
>>[..]

--- top-posting corrected, tv ---

> Here are the results of netstat -rn:
>
> Kernel IP Routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
> 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lt
>
> By the way, thanks for your help!


Try this:

route add default gw 192.168.1.x

Replace the x with the address of your gateway host. If that
works, you should add the route command to the WLAN card up script.

Also, the link-local route to 169.254.0.0/16 should be deleted.

HTH

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Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

Tauno Voipio <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<EQsmd.811$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Will Hayworth wrote:
> > Michael Heiming <michael+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<phtk62-(E-Mail Removed)>...
> >
> >>In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth <(E-Mail Removed)>:
> >>
> >>>I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1 laptop; and I
> >>>can access my router configuration pages. I've tried stopping the
> >>>firewall, to no avail; I've tried using raw IP addresses to access
> >>>external pages (to avoid engaging DNS), too. How can I fix this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>It turns out that I can access a webpage from my server, however, so
> >>>the internal access is fine. However, external access is still
> >>>unavailable. Also, when I use an Ethernet cable, access to external
> >>>pages works fine. The main problem is external access using my
> >>>Centrino wireless card. The card is initialized and works fine for
> >>>internal access.
> >>
> >>Sounds as if you are simply missing the proper default gateway,
> >>if your wireless NIC is up. If you can't get it going, show us
> >>the output of:
> >>
> >> netstat -rn
> >>
> >>[..]
>
> --- top-posting corrected, tv ---
>
> > Here are the results of netstat -rn:
> >
> > Kernel IP Routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
> > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> > 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
> > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lt
> >
> > By the way, thanks for your help!
>
>
> Try this:
>
> route add default gw 192.168.1.x
>
> Replace the x with the address of your gateway host. If that
> works, you should add the route command to the WLAN card up script.
>
> Also, the link-local route to 169.254.0.0/16 should be deleted.
>
> HTH

I've been having trouble inputting that command. How should I enter
it?
Oh, and by the way, today I disabled my Ethernet card and managed to
get access, albeit the first page/host loads EXTREMELY slowly (most of
the time is taken on the "resolving host" step) and the rest also load
slowly compared with my other computers (I'm using Firefox).

In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth <(E-Mail Removed)>:
> Tauno Voipio <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<EQsmd.811$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>> Will Hayworth wrote:
>> > Michael Heiming <michael+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<phtk62-(E-Mail Removed)>...
>> >
>> >>In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>> >>
>> >>>I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1 laptop; and I
>> >>>can access my router configuration pages. I've tried stopping the
>> >>>firewall, to no avail; I've tried using raw IP addresses to access
>> >>>external pages (to avoid engaging DNS), too. How can I fix this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>It turns out that I can access a webpage from my server, however, so
>> >>>the internal access is fine. However, external access is still
>> >>>unavailable. Also, when I use an Ethernet cable, access to external
>> >>>pages works fine. The main problem is external access using my
>> >>>Centrino wireless card. The card is initialized and works fine for
>> >>>internal access.
>> >>
>> >>Sounds as if you are simply missing the proper default gateway,
>> >>if your wireless NIC is up. If you can't get it going, show us
>> >>the output of:
>> >>
>> >> netstat -rn
>> >>
>> >>[..]
>>
>> --- top-posting corrected, tv ---
>>
>> > Here are the results of netstat -rn:
>> >
>> > Kernel IP Routing table
>> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
>> > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
>> > 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
>> > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lt
>> >
>> > By the way, thanks for your help!
>>
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> route add default gw 192.168.1.x
>>
>> Replace the x with the address of your gateway host. If that
>> works, you should add the route command to the WLAN card up script.
>>
>> Also, the link-local route to 169.254.0.0/16 should be deleted.
>>
>> HTH

This is fine, no need to delete this route, check RFC 3330
(www.faqs.org) for more info.


> I've been having trouble inputting that command. How should I enter
> it?

route add default gw 192.168.1.x

replace x with the correct number check what your other system
use as default gateway and enter as root. Double check with
'netstat -rn' and compare with the output you already showed us.


> Oh, and by the way, today I disabled my Ethernet card and managed to
> get access, albeit the first page/host loads EXTREMELY slowly (most of
> the time is taken on the "resolving host" step) and the rest also load
> slowly compared with my other computers (I'm using Firefox).

Sound like you missed putting the proper DNS server in
/etc/resolv.conf, edit this file and retry.
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#bofh excuse 352: The cables are not the same length.

In comp.os.linux.networking Michael Heiming
<michael+(E-Mail Removed)>:
> In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth
> <(E-Mail Removed)>:
>> Tauno Voipio <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message news:<EQsmd.811$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>>> Will Hayworth wrote:
>>> > Michael Heiming <michael+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> > message news:<phtk62-(E-Mail Removed)>...
>>> >
>>> >>In comp.os.linux.networking Will Hayworth
>>> >><(E-Mail Removed)>:
>>> >>
>>> >>>I can't access pages outside my network from my SuSE 9.1
>>> >>>laptop; and I can access my router configuration pages.
[..]
>>> >>
>>> >> netstat -rn
>>> >>
>>> >>[..]
>>>
>>> --- top-posting corrected, tv ---
>>>
>>> > Here are the results of netstat -rn:
>>> >
>>> > Kernel IP Routing table Destination Gateway Genmask
>>> > Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0
>>> > 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 169.254.0.0
>>> > 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
>>> > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0
>>> > lt
>>> >
>>> > By the way, thanks for your help!
>>>
>>>
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>> route add default gw 192.168.1.x
>>>
>>> Replace the x with the address of your gateway host. If that
>>> works, you should add the route command to the WLAN card up
>>> script.
>>>
>>> Also, the link-local route to 169.254.0.0/16 should be
>>> deleted.
>>>
>>> HTH

> This is fine, no need to delete this route, check RFC 3330
> (www.faqs.org) for more info.

Meant to say, it won't do any harm.


>> I've been having trouble inputting that command. How should I enter
>> it?

> route add default gw 192.168.1.x

> replace x with the correct number check what your other system
> use as default gateway and enter as root. Double check with
> 'netstat -rn' and compare with the output you already showed us.

SImply use your router IP.

>> Oh, and by the way, today I disabled my Ethernet card and managed to
>> get access, albeit the first page/host loads EXTREMELY slowly (most of
>> the time is taken on the "resolving host" step) and the rest also load
>> slowly compared with my other computers (I'm using Firefox).

> Sound like you missed putting the proper DNS server in
> /etc/resolv.conf, edit this file and retry.

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Michael Heiming wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Also, the link-local route to 169.254.0.0/16 should be
>>>>deleted.
>
>>This is fine, no need to delete this route, check RFC 3330
>>(www.faqs.org) for more info.
>
>
> Meant to say, it won't do any harm.
>

Please read the zero-configuration spec again. A link-local
address should never be routed out of the local network.
Neither should a link-local address ever be manually
configured or left up if a valid address is otherwise
configured (e.g. DHCP).

There is also a special ARP protocol to negotiate the
last 16 bits of the link-local address (169.254.x.y).

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Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

In comp.os.linux.networking Tauno Voipio <(E-Mail Removed)>:
> Michael Heiming wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Also, the link-local route to 169.254.0.0/16 should be
>>>>>deleted.
>>
>>>This is fine, no need to delete this route, check RFC 3330
>>>(www.faqs.org) for more info.
>>
>>
>> Meant to say, it won't do any harm.

> Please read the zero-configuration spec again. A link-local
> address should never be routed out of the local network.

Yup, it shouldn't and it won't looking at his routing table, it's
unrelated to his problem.

169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth1

[..]

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