Can Win 98 workstations be recognized by Active Directory

I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed and
networked in an AD environment.
Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and is
migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school continue to
manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed AD?

No. Windows 98 computers can authenticate (match usernames and passwords)
on an AD domain, and you can use script/batch/login files to pass some
settings, but you cannot make settings in AD that will be applied to a
Windows 98 computer as they will with a Windows 2000 or XP Professional
computer.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911



"Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0D42E311-4D2C-437C-8132-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed and
> networked in an AD environment.
> Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and is
> migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school continue
> to
> manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed AD?
>

ok ...
then, how difficult would it be to create a domain for these machines
(dedicated server in the school) and link them to the rest of the LAN
(networked ptr and student database) via the AD WAN (division IT)?

(hope I worded that right)


"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> No. Windows 98 computers can authenticate (match usernames and passwords)
> on an AD domain, and you can use script/batch/login files to pass some
> settings, but you cannot make settings in AD that will be applied to a
> Windows 98 computer as they will with a Windows 2000 or XP Professional
> computer.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
>
>
>
> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:0D42E311-4D2C-437C-8132-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed and
> > networked in an AD environment.
> > Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and is
> > migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school continue
> > to
> > manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed AD?
> >
>
>
>

It would be either difficult or impossible. Hard to say since I'm not sure
where you're going with this network. Anything you have been able to do
with the Windows 98 computers you will be able to continue to do. But
Active Directory won't manage them.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911



"Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:C8C5EE38-41E0-4688-A3B5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> ok ...
> then, how difficult would it be to create a domain for these machines
> (dedicated server in the school) and link them to the rest of the LAN
> (networked ptr and student database) via the AD WAN (division IT)?
>
> (hope I worded that right)
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>
>> No. Windows 98 computers can authenticate (match usernames and
>> passwords)
>> on an AD domain, and you can use script/batch/login files to pass some
>> settings, but you cannot make settings in AD that will be applied to a
>> Windows 98 computer as they will with a Windows 2000 or XP Professional
>> computer.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
>> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:0D42E311-4D2C-437C-8132-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed and
>> > networked in an AD environment.
>> > Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and is
>> > migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school
>> > continue
>> > to
>> > manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed AD?
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Thx much for your replies -- I appreciate all the information I can get on
this subject. So-o .. I hope I can appeal to your patience as I try to
elaborate ..

We have many computers with Win 98 OS that are used primarily for Internet
access and access to a student database. We also have a few newer computers
with Win XP. When Active Directory is fully implemented, only the XP
computers will be permitted to have access to the school's LAN thus
preventing the umpteen Win 98 computers from being used for anything besides
word processing.

Since these computers represent such a large contingent of our technology
inventory, we would like to be able to continue to use them for Internet and
LAN access (student database and networked printers). And since it seems
that AD won't accomodate this, is it feasible to dedicate an XP computer to
be used as a proxy server that would allow the Win 98 computers access to the
network? If AD will only manage an XP machine, can that machine be used to
manage the Win 98 machines?

(hope this is clear enough)



"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> It would be either difficult or impossible. Hard to say since I'm not sure
> where you're going with this network. Anything you have been able to do
> with the Windows 98 computers you will be able to continue to do. But
> Active Directory won't manage them.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
>
>
>
> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:C8C5EE38-41E0-4688-A3B5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > ok ...
> > then, how difficult would it be to create a domain for these machines
> > (dedicated server in the school) and link them to the rest of the LAN
> > (networked ptr and student database) via the AD WAN (division IT)?
> >
> > (hope I worded that right)
> >
> >
> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >
> >> No. Windows 98 computers can authenticate (match usernames and
> >> passwords)
> >> on an AD domain, and you can use script/batch/login files to pass some
> >> settings, but you cannot make settings in AD that will be applied to a
> >> Windows 98 computer as they will with a Windows 2000 or XP Professional
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
> >> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> >> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:0D42E311-4D2C-437C-8132-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed and
> >> > networked in an AD environment.
> >> > Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and is
> >> > migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school
> >> > continue
> >> > to
> >> > manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed AD?
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I'm not 100% sure where you're going with this. On the one hand you say
that only the XP computers will be allowed to use the school LAN, yet you
say on the other hand that you want the 98 computers to be able to access
databases and printers. You can't have one or the other, if the 98
computers will be accessing printers and databases they will be accessing
the school LAN.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
* In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
* http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm



"Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:661F7224-5A04-4C41-9868-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thx much for your replies -- I appreciate all the information I can get on
> this subject. So-o .. I hope I can appeal to your patience as I try to
> elaborate ..
>
> We have many computers with Win 98 OS that are used primarily for Internet
> access and access to a student database. We also have a few newer
> computers
> with Win XP. When Active Directory is fully implemented, only the XP
> computers will be permitted to have access to the school's LAN thus
> preventing the umpteen Win 98 computers from being used for anything
> besides
> word processing.
>
> Since these computers represent such a large contingent of our technology
> inventory, we would like to be able to continue to use them for Internet
> and
> LAN access (student database and networked printers). And since it seems
> that AD won't accomodate this, is it feasible to dedicate an XP computer
> to
> be used as a proxy server that would allow the Win 98 computers access to
> the
> network? If AD will only manage an XP machine, can that machine be used
> to
> manage the Win 98 machines?
>
> (hope this is clear enough)
>
>
>
> "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>
>> It would be either difficult or impossible. Hard to say since I'm not
>> sure
>> where you're going with this network. Anything you have been able to do
>> with the Windows 98 computers you will be able to continue to do. But
>> Active Directory won't manage them.
>>
>> --
>> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
>> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
>>
>>
>>
>> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:C8C5EE38-41E0-4688-A3B5-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > ok ...
>> > then, how difficult would it be to create a domain for these machines
>> > (dedicated server in the school) and link them to the rest of the LAN
>> > (networked ptr and student database) via the AD WAN (division IT)?
>> >
>> > (hope I worded that right)
>> >
>> >
>> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
>> >
>> >> No. Windows 98 computers can authenticate (match usernames and
>> >> passwords)
>> >> on an AD domain, and you can use script/batch/login files to pass some
>> >> settings, but you cannot make settings in AD that will be applied to a
>> >> Windows 98 computer as they will with a Windows 2000 or XP
>> >> Professional
>> >> computer.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
>> >> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
>> >> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:0D42E311-4D2C-437C-8132-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed
>> >> >and
>> >> > networked in an AD environment.
>> >> > Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and
>> >> > is
>> >> > migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school
>> >> > continue
>> >> > to
>> >> > manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed
>> >> > AD?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

I believe the question was, ".. since it seems that AD won't accomodate [Win
9.X], is it feasible to dedicate an XP computer to be used as a proxy server
that would allow the Win 98 computers access to the network? If AD will only
manage an XP machine, can that machine be used to manage the Win 98 machines?"

When you say, "You can't have one or the other" do you mean that you can
have both? (not my understanding)

Again, am only wondering if a dedicated server could work as a sort of
"middle man." ...





"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> I'm not 100% sure where you're going with this. On the one hand you say
> that only the XP computers will be allowed to use the school LAN, yet you
> say on the other hand that you want the 98 computers to be able to access
> databases and printers. You can't have one or the other, if the 98
> computers will be accessing printers and databases they will be accessing
> the school LAN.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> * http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
>
>
>
> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:661F7224-5A04-4C41-9868-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thx much for your replies -- I appreciate all the information I can get on
> > this subject. So-o .. I hope I can appeal to your patience as I try to
> > elaborate ..
> >
> > We have many computers with Win 98 OS that are used primarily for Internet
> > access and access to a student database. We also have a few newer
> > computers
> > with Win XP. When Active Directory is fully implemented, only the XP
> > computers will be permitted to have access to the school's LAN thus
> > preventing the umpteen Win 98 computers from being used for anything
> > besides
> > word processing.
> >
> > Since these computers represent such a large contingent of our technology
> > inventory, we would like to be able to continue to use them for Internet
> > and
> > LAN access (student database and networked printers). And since it seems
> > that AD won't accomodate this, is it feasible to dedicate an XP computer
> > to
> > be used as a proxy server that would allow the Win 98 computers access to
> > the
> > network? If AD will only manage an XP machine, can that machine be used
> > to
> > manage the Win 98 machines?
> >
> > (hope this is clear enough)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >
> >> It would be either difficult or impossible. Hard to say since I'm not
> >> sure
> >> where you're going with this network. Anything you have been able to do
> >> with the Windows 98 computers you will be able to continue to do. But
> >> Active Directory won't manage them.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
> >> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> >> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:C8C5EE38-41E0-4688-A3B5-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > ok ...
> >> > then, how difficult would it be to create a domain for these machines
> >> > (dedicated server in the school) and link them to the rest of the LAN
> >> > (networked ptr and student database) via the AD WAN (division IT)?
> >> >
> >> > (hope I worded that right)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> No. Windows 98 computers can authenticate (match usernames and
> >> >> passwords)
> >> >> on an AD domain, and you can use script/batch/login files to pass some
> >> >> settings, but you cannot make settings in AD that will be applied to a
> >> >> Windows 98 computer as they will with a Windows 2000 or XP
> >> >> Professional
> >> >> computer.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (E-Mail Removed)
> >> >> * In fond memory ... Alex, you shall be sorely missed
> >> >> * https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/?mvpid=6911
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Tia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:0D42E311-4D2C-437C-8132-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >I would like to know whether Windows 98 workstations can be managed
> >> >> >and
> >> >> > networked in an AD environment.
> >> >> > Consider a school setting that currently runs legacy computers and
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > migrating to AD with Win XP operating system ... can the school
> >> >> > continue
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > manage this legacy hardware on the network under the newly imposed
> >> >> > AD?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>