Can I share internet over a RS232 serial link from ADSL ?

Hi Mike;
Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the back
of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what ever else
you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a dime a
dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus dealers and
are system pulls.
HTH;
TomA
"Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> Heres the situation,
>
> I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
>
> Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> coax line...
>
> What I am considering doing is connecting my
> neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> sometimes be a pain,
>
> I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> just want my friend to have online internet
> all the time and I would do authentication
> at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> only access Web based email services but it would
> be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> chance of a download shaping cap.
>
> My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> before and is the software for this setup generally
> available and what is it called ?
>
> The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> access via a laptop which is an older type with
> only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> have a LAN card for it that works.
>
> So potentially I might have my friend on his
> PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
>
> rgds
>
> purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> best forum for this question <sigh>

No, this won't work.

--
Richard G. Harper (MVP Win9x) (E-Mail Removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies to the newsgroup so all may
* benefit from the discussion. Private mail is usually not replied to.
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"Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi all,
>
> Heres the situation,
>
> I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
>
> Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> coax line...
>
> What I am considering doing is connecting my
> neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> sometimes be a pain,
>
> I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> just want my friend to have online internet
> all the time and I would do authentication
> at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> only access Web based email services but it would
> be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> chance of a download shaping cap.
>
> My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> before and is the software for this setup generally
> available and what is it called ?
>
> The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> access via a laptop which is an older type with
> only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> have a LAN card for it that works.
>
> So potentially I might have my friend on his
> PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
>
> rgds
>
> purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> best forum for this question <sigh>

Hi all,

Heres the situation,

I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.

Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
coax line...

What I am considering doing is connecting my
neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
sometimes be a pain,

I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
just want my friend to have online internet
all the time and I would do authentication
at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
only access Web based email services but it would
be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
chance of a download shaping cap.

My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
before and is the software for this setup generally
available and what is it called ?

The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
access via a laptop which is an older type with
only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
have a LAN card for it that works.

So potentially I might have my friend on his
PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
a third PC to handle this exclusively ?

rgds

purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
best forum for this question <sigh>

Bit of a generalisation there,

I've heard there is some sort of dialup network configuration that might
do it, thats all I know.

Why o you say this wont work are you saying there is no 3rd party
software around to accomplish this ?

rgds

purple

"Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x]" wrote:

> No, this won't work.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper (MVP Win9x) (E-Mail Removed)
> * PLEASE post all messages and replies to the newsgroup so all may
> * benefit from the discussion. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> Help US help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Heres the situation,
> >
> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
> >
> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> > coax line...
> >
> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> > sometimes be a pain,
> >
> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> > just want my friend to have online internet
> > all the time and I would do authentication
> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> > only access Web based email services but it would
> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> > chance of a download shaping cap.
> >
> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> > before and is the software for this setup generally
> > available and what is it called ?
> >
> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> > have a LAN card for it that works.
> >
> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
> >
> > rgds
> >
> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> > best forum for this question <sigh>

Tah, but if I did that then the neighbour and their kids and friends
have acess to my machine through file sharing and the like at
full speed. So if they are doing downloard etc I get robbed
of bandwidth if I am also wanting to browse...

Isnt there some program on win98se from a 3rd party supplier that
can share an internet connection via some dialup on a port, sure it
needs an assignment and the like for a ppp session but this sort of thing
has been around for years with linux - hasnt anyone written some
windows or even DOS software to do this ?

rgds

purple




Tom A wrote:

> Hi Mike;
> Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the back
> of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what ever else
> you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a dime a
> dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus dealers and
> are system pulls.
> HTH;
> TomA
> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Heres the situation,
> >
> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
> >
> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> > coax line...
> >
> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> > sometimes be a pain,
> >
> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> > just want my friend to have online internet
> > all the time and I would do authentication
> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> > only access Web based email services but it would
> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> > chance of a download shaping cap.
> >
> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> > before and is the software for this setup generally
> > available and what is it called ?
> >
> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> > have a LAN card for it that works.
> >
> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
> >
> > rgds
> >
> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> > best forum for this question <sigh>

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:33:02 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Tom A wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike;
>> Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the back
>> of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what ever else
>> you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a dime a
>> dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus dealers and
>> are system pulls.
>> HTH;
>> TomA
>> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Heres the situation,
>> >
>> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
>> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
>> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
>> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
>> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
>> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
>> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
>> >
>> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
>> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
>> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
>> > coax line...
>> >
>> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
>> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
>> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
>> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
>> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
>> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
>> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
>> > sometimes be a pain,
>> >
>> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
>> > just want my friend to have online internet
>> > all the time and I would do authentication
>> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
>> > only access Web based email services but it would
>> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
>> > chance of a download shaping cap.
>> >
>> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
>> > before and is the software for this setup generally
>> > available and what is it called ?
>> >
>> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
>> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
>> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
>> > have a LAN card for it that works.
>> >
>> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
>> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
>> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
>> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
>> >
>> > rgds
>> >
>> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
>> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
>> > best forum for this question <sigh>

>Tah, but if I did that then the neighbour and their kids and friends
>have acess to my machine through file sharing and the like at
>full speed. So if they are doing downloard etc I get robbed
>of bandwidth if I am also wanting to browse...
>
>Isnt there some program on win98se from a 3rd party supplier that
>can share an internet connection via some dialup on a port, sure it
>needs an assignment and the like for a ppp session but this sort of thing
>has been around for years with linux - hasnt anyone written some
>windows or even DOS software to do this ?

What about Direct Cable Connection using a serial link?

>rgds
>
>purple


-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
Voicemail/fax number +14136227640

Yeah thought about that but there is only one internet connection sharing manager
that can be resident at a time and direct cable connection is more for file
sharing and the like, I think I need a ppp connection <sigh>

I've found TCP.COM wich says it does rs232 to tcp/ip and works as client
and server and about to try that out...

rgds

purple in perth




Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:33:02 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Tom A wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mike;
> >> Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the back
> >> of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what ever else
> >> you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a dime a
> >> dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus dealers and
> >> are system pulls.
> >> HTH;
> >> TomA
> >> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Heres the situation,
> >> >
> >> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> >> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> >> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> >> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> >> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> >> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> >> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
> >> >
> >> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> >> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> >> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> >> > coax line...
> >> >
> >> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
> >> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> >> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> >> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> >> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> >> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> >> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> >> > sometimes be a pain,
> >> >
> >> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> >> > just want my friend to have online internet
> >> > all the time and I would do authentication
> >> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> >> > only access Web based email services but it would
> >> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> >> > chance of a download shaping cap.
> >> >
> >> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> >> > before and is the software for this setup generally
> >> > available and what is it called ?
> >> >
> >> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> >> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
> >> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> >> > have a LAN card for it that works.
> >> >
> >> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
> >> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> >> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> >> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
> >> >
> >> > rgds
> >> >
> >> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> >> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> >> > best forum for this question <sigh>
>
> >Tah, but if I did that then the neighbour and their kids and friends
> >have acess to my machine through file sharing and the like at
> >full speed. So if they are doing downloard etc I get robbed
> >of bandwidth if I am also wanting to browse...
> >
> >Isnt there some program on win98se from a 3rd party supplier that
> >can share an internet connection via some dialup on a port, sure it
> >needs an assignment and the like for a ppp session but this sort of thing
> >has been around for years with linux - hasnt anyone written some
> >windows or even DOS software to do this ?
>
> What about Direct Cable Connection using a serial link?
>
> >rgds
> >
> >purple
>
> -Barry
> ========
> Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
> Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
> Voicemail/fax number +14136227640

Make sure you use a null modem cable, pins are swapped, regular serial cable
won't work.--
John Popp
Deltona Fl.

"Peter_purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yeah thought about that but there is only one internet connection sharing
manager
> that can be resident at a time and direct cable connection is more for
file
> sharing and the like, I think I need a ppp connection <sigh>
>
> I've found TCP.COM wich says it does rs232 to tcp/ip and works as client
> and server and about to try that out...
>
> rgds
>
> purple in perth
>
>
>
>
> Barry OGrady wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:33:02 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
> >
> > >Tom A wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Mike;
> > >> Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the
back
> > >> of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what
ever else
> > >> you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a
dime a
> > >> dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus
dealers and
> > >> are system pulls.
> > >> HTH;
> > >> TomA
> > >> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > Heres the situation,
> > >> >
> > >> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> > >> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> > >> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> > >> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> > >> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> > >> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> > >> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
> > >> >
> > >> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> > >> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> > >> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> > >> > coax line...
> > >> >
> > >> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
> > >> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> > >> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> > >> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> > >> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> > >> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> > >> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> > >> > sometimes be a pain,
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> > >> > just want my friend to have online internet
> > >> > all the time and I would do authentication
> > >> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> > >> > only access Web based email services but it would
> > >> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> > >> > chance of a download shaping cap.
> > >> >
> > >> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> > >> > before and is the software for this setup generally
> > >> > available and what is it called ?
> > >> >
> > >> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> > >> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
> > >> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> > >> > have a LAN card for it that works.
> > >> >
> > >> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
> > >> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> > >> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> > >> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
> > >> >
> > >> > rgds
> > >> >
> > >> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> > >> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> > >> > best forum for this question <sigh>
> >
> > >Tah, but if I did that then the neighbour and their kids and friends
> > >have acess to my machine through file sharing and the like at
> > >full speed. So if they are doing downloard etc I get robbed
> > >of bandwidth if I am also wanting to browse...
> > >
> > >Isnt there some program on win98se from a 3rd party supplier that
> > >can share an internet connection via some dialup on a port, sure it
> > >needs an assignment and the like for a ppp session but this sort of
thing
> > >has been around for years with linux - hasnt anyone written some
> > >windows or even DOS software to do this ?
> >
> > What about Direct Cable Connection using a serial link?
> >
> > >rgds
> > >
> > >purple
> >
> > -Barry
> > ========
> > Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
> > Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
> > Voicemail/fax number +14136227640
>

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 12:52:22 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Yeah thought about that but there is only one internet connection sharing manager
>that can be resident at a time and direct cable connection is more for file
>sharing and the like, I think I need a ppp connection <sigh>

I had two computers connected by a proper network and another connected to one
via DCC. By telling the DCC connected computer to look for the one it was not
connected to, the networked one, I could see files on both.
I don't know if that means anything.

>I've found TCP.COM wich says it does rs232 to tcp/ip and works as client
>and server and about to try that out...
>
>rgds
>
>purple in perth
>
>
>
>
>Barry OGrady wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:33:02 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >Tom A wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Mike;
>> >> Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the back
>> >> of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what ever else
>> >> you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a dime a
>> >> dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus dealers and
>> >> are system pulls.
>> >> HTH;
>> >> TomA
>> >> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > Heres the situation,
>> >> >
>> >> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
>> >> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
>> >> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
>> >> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
>> >> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
>> >> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
>> >> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
>> >> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
>> >> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
>> >> > coax line...
>> >> >
>> >> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
>> >> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
>> >> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
>> >> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
>> >> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
>> >> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
>> >> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
>> >> > sometimes be a pain,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
>> >> > just want my friend to have online internet
>> >> > all the time and I would do authentication
>> >> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
>> >> > only access Web based email services but it would
>> >> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
>> >> > chance of a download shaping cap.
>> >> >
>> >> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
>> >> > before and is the software for this setup generally
>> >> > available and what is it called ?
>> >> >
>> >> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
>> >> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
>> >> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
>> >> > have a LAN card for it that works.
>> >> >
>> >> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
>> >> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
>> >> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
>> >> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
>> >> >
>> >> > rgds
>> >> >
>> >> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
>> >> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
>> >> > best forum for this question <sigh>
>>
>> >Tah, but if I did that then the neighbour and their kids and friends
>> >have acess to my machine through file sharing and the like at
>> >full speed. So if they are doing downloard etc I get robbed
>> >of bandwidth if I am also wanting to browse...
>> >
>> >Isnt there some program on win98se from a 3rd party supplier that
>> >can share an internet connection via some dialup on a port, sure it
>> >needs an assignment and the like for a ppp session but this sort of thing
>> >has been around for years with linux - hasnt anyone written some
>> >windows or even DOS software to do this ?
>>
>> What about Direct Cable Connection using a serial link?
>>
>> >rgds
>> >
>> >purple
>>
>> -Barry
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mmmm, interesting, could be something lurking from Win98se 'Dialup Networking"
application that could work there as well... I'll try this out on my second
machine as internet connection sharing only seems to allow one 'outlet',
so I suppose I coul try two machines each running an internet conection
sharing manager but with different 'outlets' <sigh> Wish it were simpler,

rgds

purple from perth



Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 12:52:22 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Yeah thought about that but there is only one internet connection sharing manager
> >that can be resident at a time and direct cable connection is more for file
> >sharing and the like, I think I need a ppp connection <sigh>
>
> I had two computers connected by a proper network and another connected to one
> via DCC. By telling the DCC connected computer to look for the one it was not
> connected to, the networked one, I could see files on both.
> I don't know if that means anything.
>
> >I've found TCP.COM wich says it does rs232 to tcp/ip and works as client
> >and server and about to try that out...
> >
> >rgds
> >
> >purple in perth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Barry OGrady wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:33:02 +0000, Peter_purple <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Tom A wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Mike;
> >> >> Don't know about rs232 but if I was you I would just put a tee on the back
> >> >> of the network card in PC2 and run some more coax to PC3 and what ever else
> >> >> you want to hook up to it. Network cards with coax connecter are a dime a
> >> >> dozen on Ebay as are 16 bit PCMCIA cards. Most are from surplus dealers and
> >> >> are system pulls.
> >> >> HTH;
> >> >> TomA
> >> >> "Mr Purple" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Heres the situation,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have PC-1 which has ADSL in via USB and it also has a
> >> >> > coax network card which connects to PC-2 and internet
> >> >> > connection sharing works fine. The adsl modem is a
> >> >> > NB1300 which works fine, though the modem has to
> >> >> > power up first and initialise otherwise the DHCP
> >> >> > in PC-1 doesnt work properly - but this is a minor
> >> >> > issue... ADSL is linked at 256Kdown/64K up.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Both PC-1 and PC-2 have serial ports and I have
> >> >> > a third (PC-3) which is likely to be connected
> >> >> > next week - this is all on the same 'T' piece
> >> >> > coax line...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I am considering doing is connecting my
> >> >> > neighbour to either PC-1 or PC-2 through a
> >> >> > 56K or 115K Rs232 link across the back fence
> >> >> > because this would limit the speed as he wouldnt
> >> >> > be paying for the full ADSL speed access...
> >> >> > To avoid ground loop issues I was considering
> >> >> > also going to opto-couplers as grounds can
> >> >> > sometimes be a pain,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not concerned with ppp authentication as I
> >> >> > just want my friend to have online internet
> >> >> > all the time and I would do authentication
> >> >> > at the ADSL end for my account. So my friend would
> >> >> > only access Web based email services but it would
> >> >> > be good to have a proxy of sorts so I could reduce
> >> >> > chance of a download shaping cap.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My question is has anyone done this sort of thing
> >> >> > before and is the software for this setup generally
> >> >> > available and what is it called ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The second reason I'd like to do this is provide
> >> >> > access via a laptop which is an older type with
> >> >> > only 16bit pcmcia, so I cant use USB and I dont
> >> >> > have a LAN card for it that works.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So potentially I might have my friend on his
> >> >> > PC with RS232 net access and my laptop concurrently
> >> >> > accessing through either PC-1 or PC-2 or should I set up
> >> >> > a third PC to handle this exclusively ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > rgds
> >> >> >
> >> >> > purple mike from Perth, Western Australia
> >> >> > PS: Apologies for cross post, I dont know which is
> >> >> > best forum for this question <sigh>
> >>
> >> >Tah, but if I did that then the neighbour and their kids and friends
> >> >have acess to my machine through file sharing and the like at
> >> >full speed. So if they are doing downloard etc I get robbed
> >> >of bandwidth if I am also wanting to browse...
> >> >
> >> >Isnt there some program on win98se from a 3rd party supplier that
> >> >can share an internet connection via some dialup on a port, sure it
> >> >needs an assignment and the like for a ppp session but this sort of thing
> >> >has been around for years with linux - hasnt anyone written some
> >> >windows or even DOS software to do this ?
> >>
> >> What about Direct Cable Connection using a serial link?
> >>
> >> >rgds
> >> >
> >> >purple
> >>
> >> -Barry
> >> ========
> >> Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
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>
> -Barry
> ========
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