Can I share ADSL with my neighbours, and split the cost?

I know that it is physically possible to share my ADSL connection, but
are any ISPs going to kick up a fuss about it? (And can they find
out?)

I can't see anything in the Freeserve or Plusnet terms and conditions
saying that its not allowed, however Zen say "10.3 The service we
supply you, and any associated software, is intended for your use
only. Therefore, the service (or any part of it) or the associated
software, must not be re-sold, transferred, assigned or sub-licensed
to anyone else."

Perhaps I'll set up a nice wireless network to play games against my
neighbours, and be horrified when I find out they've been stealing my
internet bandwidth! The nasty people. Obviously I'd like to split the
cost with them, and if I can sign up with someone who allows this,
then all the better.

£30 split three ways is much better than £14.99 each for (un)limited
dialup

Any comments welcome!

Adam

"Adam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I know that it is physically possible to share my ADSL connection, but
> are any ISPs going to kick up a fuss about it? (And can they find
> out?)

Not really no. No different to using it yourself. You could have two
internet explorer windows open browsing various sites and have download
managers running various downloads. Not any different to more than one
machine.

> Perhaps I'll set up a nice wireless network to play games against my
> neighbours, and be horrified when I find out they've been stealing my
> internet bandwidth! The nasty people. Obviously I'd like to split the
> cost with them, and if I can sign up with someone who allows this,
> then all the better.

There may be a way of limiting their bandwidth of which I'm unaware.

> £30 split three ways is much better than £14.99 each for (un)limited
> dialup
>
> Any comments welcome!

Consider a 1 or 2mb service (check out www.fast24.co.uk and
www.bulldogdsl.co.uk ) if you want to share it. However, you still get a
measly 256 upload no matter what. If you are worried your neighbours will be
24/7 downloading and eating your bandwidth best way is to keep your
broadband to yourself. However, if they'll mostly browse the occasional
webpage and check e-mails and play games then that won't really affect you
all that much.

"tHatDudeUK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Consider a 1 or 2mb service (check out www.fast24.co.uk and
> www.bulldogdsl.co.uk

Meant http://www.bulldogdsl.com

On 29 Dec 2003, Adam wrote

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> Perhaps I'll set up a nice wireless network to play games against
> my neighbours, and be horrified when I find out they've been
> stealing my internet bandwidth! The nasty people. Obviously I'd
> like to split the cost with them, and if I can sign up with
> someone who allows this, then all the better.
>
> £30 split three ways is much better than £14.99 each for
> (un)limited dialup

From an ISP point of view, there's probably not a lot they can do, or
would particularly be fussed about, as long as you weren't all trying
to download binaries 24/7.....

But that's not the biggest problem: it's the logistics that'll screw
it up.

The person whose name is on the contract has to get the other guys to
stump up each month for their share -- and everybody involved in this
arrangement is either too strapped for cash or too cheap to buy their
own broadband service.

Have you ever flat-shared and tried to get the others to pay their part
of the phone bill? Better you than me.....

--
Cheers,
Harvey

For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.

basically just make sure he has the router installed on his prem and just
unplug the *unt if he doesn't pay

"Harvey Van Sickle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 29 Dec 2003, Adam wrote
>
> -snip-
>
>
> > Perhaps I'll set up a nice wireless network to play games against
> > my neighbours, and be horrified when I find out they've been
> > stealing my internet bandwidth! The nasty people. Obviously I'd
> > like to split the cost with them, and if I can sign up with
> > someone who allows this, then all the better.
> >
> > £30 split three ways is much better than £14.99 each for
> > (un)limited dialup
>
> From an ISP point of view, there's probably not a lot they can do, or
> would particularly be fussed about, as long as you weren't all trying
> to download binaries 24/7.....
>
> But that's not the biggest problem: it's the logistics that'll screw
> it up.
>
> The person whose name is on the contract has to get the other guys to
> stump up each month for their share -- and everybody involved in this
> arrangement is either too strapped for cash or too cheap to buy their
> own broadband service.
>
> Have you ever flat-shared and tried to get the others to pay their part
> of the phone bill? Better you than me.....
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Harvey
>
> For e-mail, change harvey to whhvs.

Adam wrote:

> I know that it is physically possible to share my ADSL connection, but
> are any ISPs going to kick up a fuss about it? (And can they find
> out?)
>
> I can't see anything in the Freeserve or Plusnet terms and conditions
> saying that its not allowed, however Zen say "10.3 The service we
> supply you, and any associated software, is intended for your use
> only. Therefore, the service (or any part of it) or the associated
> software, must not be re-sold, transferred, assigned or sub-licensed
> to anyone else."
>
> Perhaps I'll set up a nice wireless network to play games against my
> neighbours, and be horrified when I find out they've been stealing my
> internet bandwidth! The nasty people. Obviously I'd like to split the
> cost with them, and if I can sign up with someone who allows this,
> then all the better.
>
> £30 split three ways is much better than £14.99 each for (un)limited
> dialup
>
> Any comments welcome!

If you want to game while your neighbours want to
fileshare/download, then unless you get them to throttle down on bandwidth
usage, your latency will go through the roof. It is possible to get apps to
do QOS, but you'll need to run a PC between your network and the DSL
connection.

Andy.

On 29 Dec 2003 12:51:44 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) (Adam) wrote:

>I know that it is physically possible to share my ADSL connection, but
>are any ISPs going to kick up a fuss about it? (And can they find
>out?)
>
>I can't see anything in the Freeserve or Plusnet terms and conditions
>saying that its not allowed, however Zen say "10.3 The service we
>supply you, and any associated software, is intended for your use
>only. Therefore, the service (or any part of it) or the associated
>software, must not be re-sold, transferred, assigned or sub-licensed
>to anyone else."
>
>Perhaps I'll set up a nice wireless network to play games against my
>neighbours, and be horrified when I find out they've been stealing my
>internet bandwidth! The nasty people. Obviously I'd like to split the
>cost with them, and if I can sign up with someone who allows this,
>then all the better.
>
You'll need to remember that as the account is in your name, you're legally
the one responsible if your mates do anything dodgy. If they do, you're the
one that'll lose the account and get blacklisted.

I personaly know 3 people that have had their accounts closed by their ISPs
when they've been reported for running P2P servers. All 3 of them got the
accounts back after a bit of grovelling, but they don't use P2P anymore.

Clansman

"Harvey Van Sickle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The person whose name is on the contract has to get the other guys to
> stump up each month for their share --

Change the settings of the router and let the others with no broadband
service but yes this would leave the one with the contract in a bit of crap
if they couldn't pay up.

"Adam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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Another issue I just thought of which you might like to consider. Now I'm
not saying this is the case but it is slightly possible but if criminal
activity were to occur then your name would be attached to the adsl service
used. Also if someone downloads the latest movie and MPAA spot and complain
a few times your ISP will shut you down leaving you with no ISP connection
at all.

"tHatDudeUK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

>
>"Adam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>Another issue I just thought of which you might like to consider. Now I'm
>not saying this is the case but it is slightly possible but if criminal
>activity were to occur then your name would be attached to the adsl service
>used. Also if someone downloads the latest movie and MPAA spot and complain
>a few times your ISP will shut you down leaving you with no ISP connection
>at all.
>

Right - this has got to be the #1 problem, confidentiality between
users, and the risk of somebody downloading dodgy material. It is
common knowledge that hard core forms the major part of internet
traffic... I can't see any way to completely avoid somebody reading
your emails.


Peter.
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