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Anon
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      09-28-2003, 02:16 PM
How can I improve signal strength on peer-to-peer 802.11g?

I have 2 x 54g Belkin wireless PCI cards in 2 PCs situated in separate rooms
about 25 metres apart with 2 walls in-between. Everything works fine but
the signal strength varies from Low to Very Low, and the speed from 5Mbps to
18Mbps. File copying takes quite a long time compared to my old wired
network.

Any tips on how I can improve this? I'm not using a WAP and the PCI cards
have the aerials attached to the back of them, so the aerial is at the back
of each PC in-amongst the other cables etc. I don't want to use a
wall-mounted aerial as the point of using these cards is to avoid external
wires.

The signal strength is -73 dBm and the noise -81 dBm.

I heard something about changing channels, but does this work with
peer-to-peer? I tried in the device properties to change the IBSS Channel
Number from 11 to 1 on both machines, but when I view the connection
properties they are still using channel 11 ever after a reboot and IBSS says
1. How do I actually change the channel?

I have the latest Belkin drivers.

Thanks in advance for any tips
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      09-28-2003, 04:10 PM
In article <I2Cdb.2545$(E-Mail Removed)>,
anon@anon. says...
> How can I improve signal strength on peer-to-peer 802.11g?
>
> I have 2 x 54g Belkin wireless PCI cards in 2 PCs situated in separate rooms
> about 25 metres apart with 2 walls in-between. Everything works fine but
> the signal strength varies from Low to Very Low, and the speed from 5Mbps to
> 18Mbps. File copying takes quite a long time compared to my old wired
> network.
>
> Any tips on how I can improve this?


You can't really. A wall is a wall no matter what you stick into the
back of the card.


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      09-28-2003, 06:18 PM
Hmm, so Wi-Fi is pretty rubbish then?

Incidentally what's the average Mbps of a BNC wired cable home network?

"Nuckfut" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <I2Cdb.2545$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> anon@anon. says...
> > How can I improve signal strength on peer-to-peer 802.11g?
> >
> > I have 2 x 54g Belkin wireless PCI cards in 2 PCs situated in separate

rooms
> > about 25 metres apart with 2 walls in-between. Everything works fine

but
> > the signal strength varies from Low to Very Low, and the speed from

5Mbps to
> > 18Mbps. File copying takes quite a long time compared to my old wired
> > network.
> >
> > Any tips on how I can improve this?

>
> You can't really. A wall is a wall no matter what you stick into the
> back of the card.
>
>
> --
> Nuckfut
>
> Hi. This is my friend, Jack Shit, and you don't know him.



 
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      09-28-2003, 07:28 PM
"Anon" <anon@anon. com> wrote in
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....

> Incidentally what's the average Mbps of a BNC wired cable home
> network?
>


10 Mbits/sec

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      09-28-2003, 07:41 PM
In article <RBFdb.2854$(E-Mail Removed)>,
anon@anon. says...
> Hmm, so Wi-Fi is pretty rubbish then?
>

Anything in the Ghz transmission range is pretty useless through solid
objects over any significant distance .

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      09-28-2003, 09:02 PM
Thanks. Strange that when this is working at 18 Mbits/sec it seems slower
than my 10 Mbits cable home network was.

I also noticed that when the NT On-Access Scanner (?) crashed and closed,
everything sped up a bit. Any clues there?

Any ideas on how I change the channel - I've heard that helps but as I said
I couldn't seem to make it work (see original post for details).

Thanks in advance guys.

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> "Anon" <anon@anon. com> wrote in
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>
> ...
>
> > Incidentally what's the average Mbps of a BNC wired cable home
> > network?
> >

>
> 10 Mbits/sec
>
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      09-29-2003, 03:27 PM
Passive reflectors and/or directional antennae could help but it depends
what the walls are made of.

Different channels could make a (small) difference.

Best solution is a WAP mounted high - the antennae on PCI cards are in a
very poor place - hidden behind the crate in a noisy environment....


Guy

Anon wrote:
> How can I improve signal strength on peer-to-peer 802.11g?
>
> I have 2 x 54g Belkin wireless PCI cards in 2 PCs situated in
> separate rooms about 25 metres apart with 2 walls in-between.
> Everything works fine but the signal strength varies from Low to Very
> Low, and the speed from 5Mbps to 18Mbps. File copying takes quite a
> long time compared to my old wired network.
>
> Any tips on how I can improve this? I'm not using a WAP and the PCI
> cards have the aerials attached to the back of them, so the aerial is
> at the back of each PC in-amongst the other cables etc. I don't want
> to use a wall-mounted aerial as the point of using these cards is to
> avoid external wires.
>
> The signal strength is -73 dBm and the noise -81 dBm.
>
> I heard something about changing channels, but does this work with
> peer-to-peer? I tried in the device properties to change the IBSS
> Channel Number from 11 to 1 on both machines, but when I view the
> connection properties they are still using channel 11 ever after a
> reboot and IBSS says
> 1. How do I actually change the channel?
>
> I have the latest Belkin drivers.
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips



 
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      09-29-2003, 05:43 PM
Thanks. I have directional antennae but unfortunately the one way they
won't point is the direction I need them to!

Can you advise how to change the channel, exactly?

"Bigguy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bl9ivv$411$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Passive reflectors and/or directional antennae could help but it depends
> what the walls are made of.
>
> Different channels could make a (small) difference.
>
> Best solution is a WAP mounted high - the antennae on PCI cards are in a
> very poor place - hidden behind the crate in a noisy environment....
>
>
> Guy
>
> Anon wrote:
> > How can I improve signal strength on peer-to-peer 802.11g?
> >
> > I have 2 x 54g Belkin wireless PCI cards in 2 PCs situated in
> > separate rooms about 25 metres apart with 2 walls in-between.
> > Everything works fine but the signal strength varies from Low to Very
> > Low, and the speed from 5Mbps to 18Mbps. File copying takes quite a
> > long time compared to my old wired network.
> >
> > Any tips on how I can improve this? I'm not using a WAP and the PCI
> > cards have the aerials attached to the back of them, so the aerial is
> > at the back of each PC in-amongst the other cables etc. I don't want
> > to use a wall-mounted aerial as the point of using these cards is to
> > avoid external wires.
> >
> > The signal strength is -73 dBm and the noise -81 dBm.
> >
> > I heard something about changing channels, but does this work with
> > peer-to-peer? I tried in the device properties to change the IBSS
> > Channel Number from 11 to 1 on both machines, but when I view the
> > connection properties they are still using channel 11 ever after a
> > reboot and IBSS says
> > 1. How do I actually change the channel?
> >
> > I have the latest Belkin drivers.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any tips

>
>



 
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      10-16-2003, 04:50 AM
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:41:44 +0100, Nuckfut wrote:

> In article <RBFdb.2854$(E-Mail Removed)>, anon@anon.
> says...
>> Hmm, so Wi-Fi is pretty rubbish then?
>>

> Anything in the Ghz transmission range is pretty useless through solid
> objects over any significant distance .


Rules out Orange mobile phones then

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      10-16-2003, 10:01 AM
"Anon" <anon@anon. com> wrote in message news:<I2Cdb.2545$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> How can I improve signal strength on peer-to-peer 802.11g?
>
> I have 2 x 54g Belkin wireless PCI cards in 2 PCs situated in separate rooms
> about 25 metres apart with 2 walls in-between. Everything works fine but
> the signal strength varies from Low to Very Low, and the speed from 5Mbps to
> 18Mbps. File copying takes quite a long time compared to my old wired
> network.


Sorry for late response to this thread, only just found it on Google.

I'm new to WiFi - got a Netgear 54mbps Access Point and PC card for
laptop, also got a 11mbps card for a handheld plus a 11mbps USB device
for experimenting with.

To date I am very disappointed with the range and performance,
no-where near what the manufacturers claim. For 300 feet knock off a
zero.

I did a little test recently, out of curiosity I transfered a 10MB
file between two computers using a WiFi link, the USB 11 mbps adapter
was used.

Using a stop watch it took 61 seconds = 1.31mbps, my SYSMON on Win98
showed the network transfer as roughly 187KB per second which is about
1.49mbps

Bearing in mind both readings were quite close I would assume they are
accurate.

Both computers were quite close to the Access Point and signal was
reported as good.

So, they claim 11mbps and in good conditions I get 1.5mbps, 1/7th of
what the makers claim.

Good eh!!!!

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