where can I get documentation on setting up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server

I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and isa2004 and I
have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm attempting to
set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard. The
standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that option is
not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS

any help is greatly appreciated

VPN or(shudder) dial up?

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with.
-- Marty Feldman
"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsart1of1.1.9b4UxG15C$qM%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and isa2004
>and I
> have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm
> attempting to
> set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard.
> The
> standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that
> option is
> not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS
>
> any help is greatly appreciated

www.isaserver.org. They have several tutorials about your scenario.

Virgil


"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsart1of1.1.9b4UxG15C$qM%(E-Mail Removed)...
>I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and isa2004
>and I
> have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm
> attempting to
> set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard.
> The
> standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that
> option is
> not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS
>
> any help is greatly appreciated

The actual connection to the internet is DSL. I want to let users access the
internal network so that they may use certain software that utilizes an SQL
database on the network.

"Manny Borges" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>VPN or(shudder) dial up?
>
>--
>Manny Borges
>MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
>MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>
>The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with.
>-- Marty Feldman
>"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>newsart1of1.1.9b4UxG15C$qM%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and isa2004
>>and I
>> have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm
>> attempting to
>> set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard.
>> The
>> standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that
>> option is
>> not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS
>>
>> any help is greatly appreciated

Server Publishing.

You need to Server Publish the SQL Server to the "outside". The "outside"
user will treat the ISA as if it was the SQL Server.

See the "Guidance" links on my signature.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
-----------------------------------------------------
Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp
-----------------------------------------------------



"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsart1of1.1.DL44y$(E-Mail Removed)...
> The actual connection to the internet is DSL. I want to let users access
the
> internal network so that they may use certain software that utilizes an
SQL
> database on the network.
>
> "Manny Borges" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >VPN or(shudder) dial up?
> >
> >--
> >Manny Borges
> >MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
> >MCT, Certified Cheese Master
> >
> >The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write
with.
> >-- Marty Feldman
> >"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >newsart1of1.1.9b4UxG15C$qM%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and
isa2004
> >>and I
> >> have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm
> >> attempting to
> >> set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard.
> >> The
> >> standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that
> >> option is
> >> not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS
> >>
> >> any help is greatly appreciated
>

really? can you be so kind as to point one out?

a direct link would be helpful.

"ZVR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>www.isaserver.org. They have several tutorials about your scenario.
>
>Virgil
>
>
>"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>newsart1of1.1.9b4UxG15C$qM%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and isa2004
>>and I
>> have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm
>> attempting to
>> set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard.
>> The
>> standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that
>> option is
>> not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS
>>
>> any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks Phillip.. I will check out the link but I dont need to get the sql
service outside just need to get the users in and be able to access the
network. If they can access a nework shared drive then their software will
work.


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote:
>Server Publishing.
>
>You need to Server Publish the SQL Server to the "outside". The "outside"
>user will treat the ISA as if it was the SQL Server.
>
>See the "Guidance" links on my signature.
>
>--
>Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
>www.wandtv.com
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
>http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html
>
>Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
>http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
>http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp
>
>Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
>http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>newsart1of1.1.DL44y$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> The actual connection to the internet is DSL. I want to let users access
>the
>> internal network so that they may use certain software that utilizes an
>SQL
>> database on the network.
>>
>> "Manny Borges" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >VPN or(shudder) dial up?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Manny Borges
>> >MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
>> >MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>> >
>> >The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write
>with.
>> >-- Marty Feldman
>> >"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >newsart1of1.1.9b4UxG15C$qM%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>I realize how simple it is to set up ras using windows 2003 and
>isa2004
>> >>and I
>> >> have come across much documentation on that senario however I'm
>> >> attempting to
>> >> set up RAS on a windows 2000 advanced server running isa 2000 standard.
>> >> The
>> >> standard seems to be setting up ipsec with a shared pass key but that
>> >> option is
>> >> not available as far as I can see in windows 2000 AS
>> >>
>> >> any help is greatly appreciated
>>

"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Phillip.. I will check out the link but I dont need to get the sql
> service outside just need to get the users in and be able to access the
> network.

That is what Server Publishing does. It is for letting people to the
resourses of the publishied server,...it is not for "letting the server
out", the SQL Server is not initiating the connection, so it is not "going"
anywhere. The users require some type of Application designed to access SQL
Resources. You are not "accessing shares",...if you are then we are not
*really* talking about SQL.

>If they can access a nework shared drive then their software will work.

That will never be possible short of VPN.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
-----------------------------------------------------
Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp
-----------------------------------------------------

"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsart1of1.1.yMfoz5wzI$(E-Mail Removed)...
> really? can you be so kind as to point one out?

Not without knowing the *exact* nature of what you are trying to accomplish.
The last post you made is making me question what we are really trying to
solve here.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com
-----------------------------------------------------
Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp
-----------------------------------------------------

Thanks but that is the ultimate goal is to allow vpn connections for my users
This has been a problem I have been trying to solve for some time. it seems
quite simple but I seem to be missing something rather important.


"Phillip Windell" <@.> wrote:
>"Patrick" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks Phillip.. I will check out the link but I dont need to get the sql
>> service outside just need to get the users in and be able to access the
>> network.
>
>That is what Server Publishing does. It is for letting people to the
>resourses of the publishied server,...it is not for "letting the server
>out", the SQL Server is not initiating the connection, so it is not "going"
>anywhere. The users require some type of Application designed to access SQL
>Resources. You are not "accessing shares",...if you are then we are not
>*really* talking about SQL.
>
>>If they can access a nework shared drive then their software will work.
>
>That will never be possible short of VPN.
>
>--
>Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
>www.wandtv.com
>-----------------------------------------------------
>Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
>http://www.isaserver.org/articles/IS...cessRules.html
>
>Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Guidance
>http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2004.asp
>http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/t...dance/2000.asp
>
>Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
>http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp
>-----------------------------------------------------