Can "Enhanced G" really reach 125Mbps?

Hi,

I decided to upgrade my old wireless network, so I went out and
purchased an "Enhanced G" router (a Dynex DX-WEGRTR). I also have a
Dynex PCI adapter (DX-EBDTC) and a Buffalo Technology WLI-U2-KG125S USB
adapter.

The PCI adapter is installed in my desktop (Windows 2003), and I use the
Buffalo USB adapter in my laptop (Windows XP).

This all is working pretty well, and both adapters do run at 54Mbps, but
despite lots of tweaking of both the router settings and the settings at
the PC end, I cannot get either the PCI adapter or the USB adapter to
show up as 125Mbps in the Systray icon. Both show "Excellent" signal
strength, and I have the router only approx. 20' away.

I also noticed that in the Advanced Configuration for both the PCI
adapter and the USB adapter, the highest "Rate" setting is 54Mbps and
"Best Rate".

So, I'm curious: Should I actually be able to get these to run at, at
display, 125Mbps? If so, any ideas about what changes I need to make?

Thanks,
Jim

ohaya wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I decided to upgrade my old wireless network, so I went out and
> purchased an "Enhanced G" router (a Dynex DX-WEGRTR). I also have a
> Dynex PCI adapter (DX-EBDTC) and a Buffalo Technology WLI-U2-KG125S USB
> adapter.

To get any of the "turbo" modes, all the kit has to be from the same
manufacturer, and supporting the same turbo mode.

> So, I'm curious: Should I actually be able to get these to run at, at
> display, 125Mbps? If so, any ideas about what changes I need to make?

Does the Dynex PCI adapter support the same "enhanced G" mode as the
router? If not, you're SOL...

Mark McIntyre wrote:
> ohaya wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I decided to upgrade my old wireless network, so I went out and
>> purchased an "Enhanced G" router (a Dynex DX-WEGRTR). I also have a
>> Dynex PCI adapter (DX-EBDTC) and a Buffalo Technology WLI-U2-KG125S USB
>> adapter.
>
>
> To get any of the "turbo" modes, all the kit has to be from the same
> manufacturer, and supporting the same turbo mode.
>
>> So, I'm curious: Should I actually be able to get these to run at, at
>> display, 125Mbps? If so, any ideas about what changes I need to make?
>
>
> Does the Dynex PCI adapter support the same "enhanced G" mode as the
> router? If not, you're SOL...


Mark,

Yes. They actually have two different PCI adapters. One is "regular"
G, the other one (the DX-EBDTC), which is the one I got, is "enhanced"
G. "125Mbps" is all over the box .

Although it's not the same mfr as the router, that Buffalo USB adapter
is, also, I believe, the "same kind of" enhanced G, i.e., in the
settings, I see settings for "Afterburner".

As you mentioned, getting the router and the adapter from the same mfr
is suppose to be the best way to insure that the "enhanced" G works.
That's why I got the router and PCI adapter from Dynex. As for the
Buffalo USB adapter, I already had that from before, but I was also
curious if it'd work @ 125Mbps with the Dynex router.

FYI, I've seen some info that seems to indicate that the Dynex router is
the same as one that Belkin sells...

Anyway, the thing that's puzzling is in the adapter Advanced
configuration (for both the Dynex PCI and Buffalo USB adapters), when I
select "Rate", 54Mbps is the highest rate. There's a "Best" which is
selected by default, but I cannot get anything higher than 54Mbps to
appear in the Windows Systray popup, even though the signal is "Excellent".

Jim

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:23:15 -0500, ohaya <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<8najj.9036$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>I decided to upgrade my old wireless network, so I went out and
>purchased an "Enhanced G" router (a Dynex DX-WEGRTR). I also have a
>Dynex PCI adapter (DX-EBDTC) and a Buffalo Technology WLI-U2-KG125S USB
>adapter.
>
>The PCI adapter is installed in my desktop (Windows 2003), and I use the
>Buffalo USB adapter in my laptop (Windows XP).
>
>This all is working pretty well, and both adapters do run at 54Mbps, but
>despite lots of tweaking of both the router settings and the settings at
>the PC end, I cannot get either the PCI adapter or the USB adapter to
>show up as 125Mbps in the Systray icon. Both show "Excellent" signal
>strength, and I have the router only approx. 20' away.
>
>I also noticed that in the Advanced Configuration for both the PCI
>adapter and the USB adapter, the highest "Rate" setting is 54Mbps and
>"Best Rate".
>
>So, I'm curious: Should I actually be able to get these to run at, at
>display, 125Mbps? If so, any ideas about what changes I need to make?

It often takes a configuration change to enable the higher speed mode,
but you may still not see the highest rate setting, since those are
usually to hold speed down below maximum.

What does the documentation say?

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> It often takes a configuration change to enable the higher speed mode,
> but you may still not see the highest rate setting, since those are
> usually to hold speed down below maximum.
>
> What does the documentation say?
>

John,

I've tried all kinds of changes, both on the router and adapter side...
still now joy.

The adapter manual doesn't say much. The router manual is a little
better, but I've got everything set to how it should be, I think...

Jim

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:26:07 -0500, ohaya <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<iPejj.10214$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>> It often takes a configuration change to enable the higher speed mode,
>> but you may still not see the highest rate setting, since those are
>> usually to hold speed down below maximum.
>>
>> What does the documentation say?

>I've tried all kinds of changes, both on the router and adapter side...
>still now joy.
>
>The adapter manual doesn't say much. The router manual is a little
>better, but I've got everything set to how it should be, I think...

My guess is that your problem is brand mismatch. With non-standard
gear, you should _always_ go with all of one brand.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:54:55 -0500, ohaya <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<Ptdjj.33297$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>Mark McIntyre wrote:

>> To get any of the "turbo" modes, all the kit has to be from the same
>> manufacturer, and supporting the same turbo mode.

>Although it's not the same mfr as the router, that Buffalo USB adapter
>is, also, I believe, the "same kind of" enhanced G, i.e., in the
>settings, I see settings for "Afterburner".

That may not be enough. As Mark wrote, it should all be from the _same_
manufacturer. Even with the same chipset, different manufacturers may
have firmware that only works with their own gear.

>As you mentioned, getting the router and the adapter from the same mfr
>is suppose to be the best way to insure that the "enhanced" G works.

It's more than just the best way -- it's the _only_ way to be sure it
will work.

>That's why I got the router and PCI adapter from Dynex. As for the
>Buffalo USB adapter, I already had that from before, but I was also
>curious if it'd work @ 125Mbps with the Dynex router.

Turn off any non-Dynex gear, set up the router for Turbo G mode, and see
what you get.

>FYI, I've seen some info that seems to indicate that the Dynex router is
>the same as one that Belkin sells...

I wouldn't count on that.

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>> That's why I got the router and PCI adapter from Dynex. As for the
>> Buffalo USB adapter, I already had that from before, but I was also
>> curious if it'd work @ 125Mbps with the Dynex router.
>
> Turn off any non-Dynex gear, set up the router for Turbo G mode, and see
> what you get.

Hi,

When you say "turn off any non-Dynex gear", do you mean the Buffalo USB?

That's off most of the time, since I rarely use my laptop at home, but
even then can't get 125Mbps on the PCI adapter, wich is in my desktop.

I'm still curious, do you all actually see "125Mbps" (or anything >
54Mbps) when holding the mouse over the wireless icon in the Systray?

Also, when you go to Advanced Configuration -> Rate, do you see anything
> 54Mbps?

Jim

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:41:02 -0500, ohaya <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<h1fjj.10220$(E-Mail Removed)>:

>
>>> That's why I got the router and PCI adapter from Dynex. As for the
>>> Buffalo USB adapter, I already had that from before, but I was also
>>> curious if it'd work @ 125Mbps with the Dynex router.
>>
>> Turn off any non-Dynex gear, set up the router for Turbo G mode, and see
>> what you get.

>When you say "turn off any non-Dynex gear", do you mean the Buffalo USB?

Buffalo is of course non-Dynex. Also turn off any other non-Dynex
wireless gear.

>I'm still curious, do you all actually see "125Mbps" (or anything >
>54Mbps) when holding the mouse over the wireless icon in the Systray?
>
>Also, when you go to Advanced Configuration -> Rate, do you see anything
> > 54Mbps?

I have no idea. Why does it matter so much to you? Just test for speed
and see what you get.

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John Navas wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:41:02 -0500, ohaya <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> <h1fjj.10220$(E-Mail Removed)>:
>
>
>>>>That's why I got the router and PCI adapter from Dynex. As for the
>>>>Buffalo USB adapter, I already had that from before, but I was also
>>>>curious if it'd work @ 125Mbps with the Dynex router.
>>>
>>>Turn off any non-Dynex gear, set up the router for Turbo G mode, and see
>>>what you get.
>
>
>>When you say "turn off any non-Dynex gear", do you mean the Buffalo USB?
>
>
> Buffalo is of course non-Dynex. Also turn off any other non-Dynex
> wireless gear.

I don't have any other wireless equipment here, and like I said, that's off.


>>I'm still curious, do you all actually see "125Mbps" (or anything >
>>54Mbps) when holding the mouse over the wireless icon in the Systray?
>>
>>Also, when you go to Advanced Configuration -> Rate, do you see anything
>>
>>>54Mbps?
>
>
> I have no idea. Why does it matter so much to you? Just test for speed
> and see what you get.

Well... I guess it's because I specifically opted for the enhanced G
router and PCI adapter, and was expecting to see "125Mbps"...

Jim