can 2 isp's work on the same connection

hi all,
we have 1 bt telephone line in our house, at the moment my wife uses
that line for her AOL broadband connection via a wireless router. I use
my comp on NTL cable broadband but want to give it up. can we use the
same BT line for 2 ISP broadband connections, and more importantly,
could both ISP's be operating at the same time. or would we have to
have a 2nd BT line installed if I wanted a differant ISP company.

> hi all,
> we have 1 bt telephone line in our house, at the moment my wife uses
> that line for her AOL broadband connection via a wireless router. I use
> my comp on NTL cable broadband but want to give it up. can we use the
> same BT line for 2 ISP broadband connections, and more importantly,
> could both ISP's be operating at the same time. or would we have to
> have a 2nd BT line installed if I wanted a differant ISP company.


The answer to your last question is yes, you would need a separate line for
a second ADSL isp
But why would you want to do this anyway?

Why don't you just both share your wifes AOL connection?

As she already has a wireless router set up it couldn't be easier

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Graham.



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"Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> hi all,
>> we have 1 bt telephone line in our house, at the moment my wife uses
>> that line for her AOL broadband connection via a wireless router. I use
>> my comp on NTL cable broadband but want to give it up. can we use the
>> same BT line for 2 ISP broadband connections, and more importantly,
>> could both ISP's be operating at the same time. or would we have to
>> have a 2nd BT line installed if I wanted a differant ISP company.
>
>
> The answer to your last question is yes, you would need a separate line
> for
> a second ADSL isp
> But why would you want to do this anyway?
>
> Why don't you just both share your wifes AOL connection?
>
> As she already has a wireless router set up it couldn't be easier

Exactly. The only possible problem might be email access. Some ISPs' mail
servers don't allow POP or SMTP access from a "foreign" connection. I think
Tiscali is one of those. I've found that BT's servers go one stage further
and don't respond in any way if you try to access them from a non-BT ISP
connection. In most cases, all you have to do is alter the SMTP
configuration to authenticate using the same username and password as for
the POP account, but for others you need to use SSL which in my experience
doesn't seem to work if Norton Internet Security is installed - or at least
if Norton is set to scan outgoing mail.

If POP works but SMTP can't be made to work, you could always configure your
PC to send via your wife's AOL SMTP server, with SMTP set to authenticate
using her username/password.

Martin Underwood wrote:

> Exactly. The only possible problem might be email access. Some ISPs' mail
> servers don't allow POP or SMTP access from a "foreign" connection.
>

I have discovered a workaround for this. Open a GMAIL account. Yes, I
know it is webmail, but they allow SMTP access for sending mail via your
own mail client. It has worked with every ISP I have tried it with when
wirelessly connecting via my laptop (BT, Pipex, Virgin). They also use
a non-standard SMTP port (five hundered and thirty something if I
remember correctly) so if AOL blocks port 25 (the usual SMTP port) then
you won't have problems.

If you need a GMAIL account, I recommend a visit to isnoop.net, and
click through to their gmail spooler. It took a matter of seconds
before I got my gmail invite!

Best of luck,
Rob

On Sun, 22 May 2005 13:22:04 UTC, Rob <robin@.uk.org.brol> wrote:

> Martin Underwood wrote:
> If you need a GMAIL account, I recommend a visit to isnoop.net, and
> click through to their gmail spooler. It took a matter of seconds
> before I got my gmail invite!

Or just ask...I have some spares.
--
[Kenism - a condition by which the sufferer experiences an inability
to give concise answers, express reasoned argument or opinion.
Usually accompanied by silly noises and gestures, and frequent use
of the word 'fanboy' (although he calls it 'words')]

On 22 May 2005 04:57:32 -0700, "nigelnibbles"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>can we use the
>same BT line for 2 ISP broadband connections,

no.

>and more importantly,
>could both ISP's be operating at the same time.

definitely not, even if the above answer was yes, which it isn't.

> or would we have to
>have a 2nd BT line installed if I wanted a differant ISP company.

you would, but why not just share the one connection ? maybe make it
faster too. Cheaper than another £11.50/month (ish) for the line plus
an ISP on top.

Phil
--
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices.
AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.

On Sun, 22 May 2005 14:22:04 +0100, Rob <robin@.uk.org.brol> wrote:

> Yes, I
>know it is webmail, but they allow SMTP access for sending mail via your
>own mail client.

they also change the headers so that the From address is the Gmail
address, although you can put in a Reply to: address of your own.

Phil
--
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices.
AOL - the unlimited ISP of choice for heavy downloaders.

Rob wrote:
> Martin Underwood wrote:
>
>> Exactly. The only possible problem might be email access. Some
>> ISPs' mail servers don't allow POP or SMTP access from a "foreign"
>> connection.
>
> I have discovered a workaround for this. Open a GMAIL account. Yes, I
> know it is webmail, but they allow SMTP access for sending
> mail via your own mail client. It has worked with every ISP I have
> tried it with when wirelessly connecting via my laptop (BT, Pipex,
> Virgin). They also use a non-standard SMTP port (five hundered and
> thirty something if I remember correctly) so if AOL blocks port 25
> (the usual SMTP port) then you won't have problems.
>
> If you need a GMAIL account, I recommend a visit to isnoop.net, and
> click through to their gmail spooler. It took a matter of seconds
> before I got my gmail invite!

I still have 50 Gmail accounts to give away if anyone wants one..!

You can configure Gmail to use POP3 as well if you want, it works fine
once you've enabled it on the website.

Ivor

On 22 May 2005 04:57:32 -0700, "nigelnibbles"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>hi all,
>we have 1 bt telephone line in our house, at the moment my wife uses
>that line for her AOL broadband connection via a wireless router. I use
>my comp on NTL cable broadband but want to give it up. can we use the
>same BT line for 2 ISP broadband connections,

No. One line = one ADSL connection = one ISP providing it.

>and more importantly,
>could both ISP's be operating at the same time. or would we have to
>have a 2nd BT line installed if I wanted a differant ISP company.

Two lines required. Why not stick with cable, its no differnt in terms
of price.

> >hi all,
> >we have 1 bt telephone line in our house, at the moment my wife uses
> >that line for her AOL broadband connection via a wireless router. I use
> >my comp on NTL cable broadband but want to give it up. can we use the
> >same BT line for 2 ISP broadband connections,
>
> No. One line = one ADSL connection = one ISP providing it.
>
> >and more importantly,
> >could both ISP's be operating at the same time. or would we have to
> >have a 2nd BT line installed if I wanted a differant ISP company.
>
> Two lines required. Why not stick with cable, its no differnt in terms
> of price.

Whilst I agree that the above is true I am wondering if it's a truly
technical restriction, or merely an administrative/political one.
Does the ADSL and ATM specifications actually support multi ISP provision to
an end user?
Does the key to this lie in the VPI.VCI parameters I wonder?

--
Graham.



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