Cable vs. ADSL

I'm about to move into a house that has NTL cable installed and I have a few
questions.

What are the pros/cons of cable vs. ADSL?
Can you get cable modem/routers like the ADSL modem/routers?
Do you have the option of static IP addresses?
Are cable more strict on running servers on a home connection?
What are the speeds like in comparison to 256/512 ADSL?

Many thanks,
Twinkletoes
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> What are the pros/cons of cable vs. ADSL?

cable works on high speed cable lines .. unlike adsl which use old copper
lines
the cable networks in the uk use a 20:1 contention ratio whereas most adsl
networks use 50:1

> Can you get cable modem/routers like the ADSL modem/routers?

i've never seen a built in modem/router ... but you can get a router/switch
that your cable modem connects to to have the same effect

> Do you have the option of static IP addresses?

ntl don't offer static ips (they may do on their business plans however)

> Are cable more strict on running servers on a home connection?

ntl are more strict than most adsl suppliers are

> What are the speeds like in comparison to 256/512 ADSL?

ntl offer:
150/64
600/128
1024/256

+ their business plans



Ste

"Stephen Wright" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> cable works on high speed cable lines .. unlike adsl which use old copper
> lines

Why should that make a difference?

Sounds like bullshit to me.

"Stephen Wright" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> the cable networks in the uk use a 20:1 contention ratio whereas most adsl
> networks use 50:1

Cable modem networks in the UK like those everywhere else do not state what
the contention ratio is - it purely depends on how many users you have
locally - the more you have the "slower" your own will be.

With ADSL, BT/ISP's can control contention and while they state that its
currently 50:1 or 20:1 (depending on product) its actually closer to 15:1 as
ISP's are not really contending at the moment.

> > Can you get cable modem/routers like the ADSL modem/routers?

Normally, the cable company will supply the cable modem - you can buy a
router which can be used with this.

> > Do you have the option of static IP addresses?

I don't think so - with Cable modems

With ADSL - its either an option or comes as standard depending on ISP.

> > Are cable more strict on running servers on a home connection?

Generally speaking, yes..

Regards
Sunil

>> cable works on high speed cable lines .. unlike adsl which use old copper
>> lines
>Why should that make a difference?

Because the quality of the medium is a fundamental physical factor in
the quality of signal (to noise) and the bandwidth that you can
obtain.

ADSL works minor miracles in getting the results that it does from a
medium that was only intended to get up to 3Khz low quality voice
signals.

A coaxial cable is capable of considerably better.

Dave

On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:15:04 +0100 and in article <%y47b.4406$Ve3.621
@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net>, Stephen Wright said...
: > Are cable more strict on running servers on a home connection?
:
: ntl are more strict than most adsl suppliers are
:
This is not true. NTL allow FTP and HTTP web servers as long as they're
secure.

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> I'm about to move into a house that has NTL cable installed and I have a few
> questions.
> What are the pros/cons of cable vs. ADSL?

I think NTL were rumoured to be getting quite strict on the amount of
bandwidth used, whereas many adsl based services aren`t quite that anally
retentive yet. I hammer my Pipex account :-)

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On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 00:48:48 +0100 and in article
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: > I'm about to move into a house that has NTL cable installed and I have a few
: > questions.
: > What are the pros/cons of cable vs. ADSL?
:
: I think NTL were rumoured to be getting quite strict on the amount of
: bandwidth used
:
1gig a day spanned over 3 days. However, i don't think it's been
implemented yet..

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"David Lowndes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> >> cable works on high speed cable lines .. unlike adsl which use old
copper
> >> lines
> >Why should that make a difference?
>
> Because the quality of the medium is a fundamental physical factor in
> the quality of signal (to noise) and the bandwidth that you can
> obtain.
>
> ADSL works minor miracles in getting the results that it does from a
> medium that was only intended to get up to 3Khz low quality voice
> signals.
>
> A coaxial cable is capable of considerably better.
>
So, Why does Ethernet run over twisted pair copper?

Anyway, Cable was originally intended to carry TV, not internet, so they're
both a compromise.

> ADSL works minor miracles in getting the results that it does from a
> medium that was only intended to get up to 3Khz low quality voice
> signals.
>
> A coaxial cable is capable of considerably better.

And what's your point? If ADSL can give you the 512k / 1M / 2M you paid
for, and cable can give you the bandwidth you pay for with that, why does it
matter what the maximum available on the lines are? You aren't going to get
any more, and with cable you will be far more restricted in dense areas
(because cable contention can only actually give a certain amount of
bandwidth to each local area) than ADSL (which has the capability to give
512k to everyone, but since you pay for a certain contention ratio it won't
happen in practice. At the minute contention isn't effectively in use for
the vast majority of ADSL users).

So like I say, why does a better quality cable make cable a better means of
getting the internet?

David