Cable Internet and 802.11b

I am going to get a router and a wireless ethernet bridge under the 802.11b
standard (did I word that correctly) to share my cable internet connection
with my Xbox wirelessly (for Xbox Live) and I was wondering if I would lose
any speed from my broadband connection.

For reference the router I'm thinking of buying is the Netgear MR814 802.11b
Wireless Router and the Linksys WET11 ethernet bridge.

MR814: http://tinyurl.com/qjgh
WET11: http://tinyurl.com/qjgk

In article <_pOhb.146148$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
:I am going to get a router and a wireless ethernet bridge under the 802.11b
:standard (did I word that correctly) to share my cable internet connection
:with my Xbox wirelessly (for Xbox Live) and I was wondering if I would lose
:any speed from my broadband connection.

The maximum thoughput you should expect on an unshared 802.11b
connection is between 5 and 6 Mbit/s. Any local (within your house)
traffic that shares the 802.11b link is going to reduce the
bandwidth available to communicate with the outside. If your
maximum cable modem bandwidth exceeds the above figures, then Yes
you will lose speed on your broadband connection.

Sorry, it's too late at night for me to research what the standard
cable modem speed is that is offered by your ISP, which is on
a completely different continent in a completely different hemisphere
from where I am. It would have been easier for us to answer your
question if you had indicated what your current cable bandwdith is.

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IEA408I: GETMAIN cannot provide buffer for WATLIB.

"Matthew Shaw" <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote in
news:_pOhb.146148$(E-Mail Removed):

> I am going to get a router and a wireless ethernet bridge under the
> 802.11b standard (did I word that correctly) to share my cable
> internet connection with my Xbox wirelessly (for Xbox Live) and I was
> wondering if I would lose any speed from my broadband connection.
>
> For reference the router I'm thinking of buying is the Netgear MR814
> 802.11b Wireless Router and the Linksys WET11 ethernet bridge.
>
> MR814: http://tinyurl.com/qjgh
> WET11: http://tinyurl.com/qjgk

I also don't know your ISP max download speed. I'm on RoadRunner with its
2 Mb cap, and I download at that speed to my laptop over 802.11b. Last
night, it took about 35 minutes to download a 716 MB file form Florida (I'm
in upstate NY). This is with using 128 bit WEP encryption. I also
downloaded the WinXP SP1a - think it was about 10 minutes for that 128 MB
file.

--
Tom McCune
http://www.McCune.cc
Please use PGP for Privacy & Authenticity

Matthew Shaw wrote:

> I am going to get a router and a wireless ethernet bridge under the 802.11b
> standard (did I word that correctly) to share my cable internet connection
> with my Xbox wirelessly (for Xbox Live) and I was wondering if I would lose
> any speed from my broadband connection.
>
> For reference the router I'm thinking of buying is the Netgear MR814 802.11b
> Wireless Router and the Linksys WET11 ethernet bridge.
>
> MR814: http://tinyurl.com/qjgh
> WET11: http://tinyurl.com/qjgk
>
>
>
Unless you have really REALLY fast internet access, your 802.11b speed
will comfortably exceed your modem speed.

Thanks for your advice. Sorry, but I don't know what my current bandwidth
is, my ISP provides an uncapped connection, although at the present, my
cable modem is plugged in via a USB1 port which I believe has a maximum
bandwidth capability of 1.5 mbytes/s (I don't know the mbytes/s to mbits/s
conversion)

"Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bm8fn1$hl4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <_pOhb.146148$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> :I am going to get a router and a wireless ethernet bridge under the
802.11b
> :standard (did I word that correctly) to share my cable internet
connection
> :with my Xbox wirelessly (for Xbox Live) and I was wondering if I would
lose
> :any speed from my broadband connection.
>
> The maximum thoughput you should expect on an unshared 802.11b
> connection is between 5 and 6 Mbit/s. Any local (within your house)
> traffic that shares the 802.11b link is going to reduce the
> bandwidth available to communicate with the outside. If your
> maximum cable modem bandwidth exceeds the above figures, then Yes
> you will lose speed on your broadband connection.
>
> Sorry, it's too late at night for me to research what the standard
> cable modem speed is that is offered by your ISP, which is on
> a completely different continent in a completely different hemisphere
> from where I am. It would have been easier for us to answer your
> question if you had indicated what your current cable bandwdith is.
>
> --
> IEA408I: GETMAIN cannot provide buffer for WATLIB.

In article <xMThb.146510$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
:Thanks for your advice. Sorry, but I don't know what my current bandwidth
:is, my ISP provides an uncapped connection, although at the present, my
:cable modem is plugged in via a USB1 port which I believe has a maximum
:bandwidth capability of 1.5 mbytes/s (I don't know the mbytes/s to mbits/s
:conversion)

1 byte is 8 bits, so 1.5 Mbytes/s would be 12 Mbits/s. I just
cross-checked and you are correct, USB1 -is- 12 Mbit/s.

Investigating Bigpond's cable throughput rates from here on
another continent, I see that according to
http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/access/cable/

BigPond Broadband Cable can be up to 50 times faster than a
standard 56.6kbps (kilobits per second) dial-up internet
connection~.

On a 56.6 Kbps modem, you don't actually get 56.6 Kbps throughput
because a fair bit of it is overhead; on the other hand, the build in
compression can allow you to get higher speeds than that, depending
on the kind of file you are downloading. 50 times 56.6 would be 2830 Kbps
or 2.83 Mbit/s, but because of the above factors, we can't trust that
calculation.

At that speed, you could download enough data to fill a floppy
disc in less than 5 seconds or a four-minute MP3 music file in
less than 12 seconds.

A standard floppy disk is 1.44 Mbyte. They say less than 5 seconds,
so the rate is better than 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 5 seconds = 2.3 Mbit/s
but we can presume they would have said "less than 4 seconds" if the
rate were that good, so 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 4 seconds = 2.88 Mbit/s
is the upper limit.

Something up to 2.88 Mbit/s would fit easily into 802.11b wireless link
that was running unshared at full connection speed.
--
Warning: potentially contains traces of nuts.

http://www.dslreports.com/stest

to test your speed.

-john

"Matthew Shaw" <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:xMThb.146510$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for your advice. Sorry, but I don't know what my current bandwidth
> is, my ISP provides an uncapped connection, although at the present, my
> cable modem is plugged in via a USB1 port which I believe has a maximum
> bandwidth capability of 1.5 mbytes/s (I don't know the mbytes/s to mbits/s
> conversion)
>
> "Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bm8fn1$hl4$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > In article <_pOhb.146148$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > :I am going to get a router and a wireless ethernet bridge under the
> 802.11b
> > :standard (did I word that correctly) to share my cable internet
> connection
> > :with my Xbox wirelessly (for Xbox Live) and I was wondering if I would
> lose
> > :any speed from my broadband connection.
> >
> > The maximum thoughput you should expect on an unshared 802.11b
> > connection is between 5 and 6 Mbit/s. Any local (within your house)
> > traffic that shares the 802.11b link is going to reduce the
> > bandwidth available to communicate with the outside. If your
> > maximum cable modem bandwidth exceeds the above figures, then Yes
> > you will lose speed on your broadband connection.
> >
> > Sorry, it's too late at night for me to research what the standard
> > cable modem speed is that is offered by your ISP, which is on
> > a completely different continent in a completely different hemisphere
> > from where I am. It would have been easier for us to answer your
> > question if you had indicated what your current cable bandwdith is.
> >
> > --
> > IEA408I: GETMAIN cannot provide buffer for WATLIB.
>
>

actually USB 1.1 is 12. USB 1, I believe, is 1.5

-john

"Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bm9ggp$28u$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <xMThb.146510$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> :Thanks for your advice. Sorry, but I don't know what my current bandwidth
> :is, my ISP provides an uncapped connection, although at the present, my
> :cable modem is plugged in via a USB1 port which I believe has a maximum
> :bandwidth capability of 1.5 mbytes/s (I don't know the mbytes/s to
mbits/s
> :conversion)
>
> 1 byte is 8 bits, so 1.5 Mbytes/s would be 12 Mbits/s. I just
> cross-checked and you are correct, USB1 -is- 12 Mbit/s.
>
> Investigating Bigpond's cable throughput rates from here on
> another continent, I see that according to
> http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/access/cable/
>
> BigPond Broadband Cable can be up to 50 times faster than a
> standard 56.6kbps (kilobits per second) dial-up internet
> connection~.
>
> On a 56.6 Kbps modem, you don't actually get 56.6 Kbps throughput
> because a fair bit of it is overhead; on the other hand, the build in
> compression can allow you to get higher speeds than that, depending
> on the kind of file you are downloading. 50 times 56.6 would be 2830 Kbps
> or 2.83 Mbit/s, but because of the above factors, we can't trust that
> calculation.
>
> At that speed, you could download enough data to fill a floppy
> disc in less than 5 seconds or a four-minute MP3 music file in
> less than 12 seconds.
>
> A standard floppy disk is 1.44 Mbyte. They say less than 5 seconds,
> so the rate is better than 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 5 seconds = 2.3
Mbit/s
> but we can presume they would have said "less than 4 seconds" if the
> rate were that good, so 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 4 seconds = 2.88
Mbit/s
> is the upper limit.
>
> Something up to 2.88 Mbit/s would fit easily into 802.11b wireless link
> that was running unshared at full connection speed.
> --
> Warning: potentially contains traces of nuts.

I did actually mean 1.1 sorry...mind running faster than my hands

"Major Ninth" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1IZhb.41972$(E-Mail Removed)...
> actually USB 1.1 is 12. USB 1, I believe, is 1.5
>
> -john
>
> "Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:bm9ggp$28u$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > In article <xMThb.146510$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > :Thanks for your advice. Sorry, but I don't know what my current
bandwidth
> > :is, my ISP provides an uncapped connection, although at the present, my
> > :cable modem is plugged in via a USB1 port which I believe has a maximum
> > :bandwidth capability of 1.5 mbytes/s (I don't know the mbytes/s to
> mbits/s
> > :conversion)
> >
> > 1 byte is 8 bits, so 1.5 Mbytes/s would be 12 Mbits/s. I just
> > cross-checked and you are correct, USB1 -is- 12 Mbit/s.
> >
> > Investigating Bigpond's cable throughput rates from here on
> > another continent, I see that according to
> > http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/access/cable/
> >
> > BigPond Broadband Cable can be up to 50 times faster than a
> > standard 56.6kbps (kilobits per second) dial-up internet
> > connection~.
> >
> > On a 56.6 Kbps modem, you don't actually get 56.6 Kbps throughput
> > because a fair bit of it is overhead; on the other hand, the build in
> > compression can allow you to get higher speeds than that, depending
> > on the kind of file you are downloading. 50 times 56.6 would be 2830
Kbps
> > or 2.83 Mbit/s, but because of the above factors, we can't trust that
> > calculation.
> >
> > At that speed, you could download enough data to fill a floppy
> > disc in less than 5 seconds or a four-minute MP3 music file in
> > less than 12 seconds.
> >
> > A standard floppy disk is 1.44 Mbyte. They say less than 5 seconds,
> > so the rate is better than 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 5 seconds = 2.3
> Mbit/s
> > but we can presume they would have said "less than 4 seconds" if the
> > rate were that good, so 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 4 seconds = 2.88
> Mbit/s
> > is the upper limit.
> >
> > Something up to 2.88 Mbit/s would fit easily into 802.11b wireless link
> > that was running unshared at full connection speed.
> > --
> > Warning: potentially contains traces of nuts.
>
>

Cool, thanks for that, it has cleared up a lot of questions.

"Walter Roberson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bm9ggp$28u$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <xMThb.146510$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Matthew Shaw <matted@[REMOVETHIS]bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> :Thanks for your advice. Sorry, but I don't know what my current bandwidth
> :is, my ISP provides an uncapped connection, although at the present, my
> :cable modem is plugged in via a USB1 port which I believe has a maximum
> :bandwidth capability of 1.5 mbytes/s (I don't know the mbytes/s to
mbits/s
> :conversion)
>
> 1 byte is 8 bits, so 1.5 Mbytes/s would be 12 Mbits/s. I just
> cross-checked and you are correct, USB1 -is- 12 Mbit/s.
>
> Investigating Bigpond's cable throughput rates from here on
> another continent, I see that according to
> http://www.bigpond.com/broadband/access/cable/
>
> BigPond Broadband Cable can be up to 50 times faster than a
> standard 56.6kbps (kilobits per second) dial-up internet
> connection~.
>
> On a 56.6 Kbps modem, you don't actually get 56.6 Kbps throughput
> because a fair bit of it is overhead; on the other hand, the build in
> compression can allow you to get higher speeds than that, depending
> on the kind of file you are downloading. 50 times 56.6 would be 2830 Kbps
> or 2.83 Mbit/s, but because of the above factors, we can't trust that
> calculation.
>
> At that speed, you could download enough data to fill a floppy
> disc in less than 5 seconds or a four-minute MP3 music file in
> less than 12 seconds.
>
> A standard floppy disk is 1.44 Mbyte. They say less than 5 seconds,
> so the rate is better than 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 5 seconds = 2.3
Mbit/s
> but we can presume they would have said "less than 4 seconds" if the
> rate were that good, so 1.44 Mbyte * 8 bits/byte / 4 seconds = 2.88
Mbit/s
> is the upper limit.
>
> Something up to 2.88 Mbit/s would fit easily into 802.11b wireless link
> that was running unshared at full connection speed.
> --
> Warning: potentially contains traces of nuts.