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A friend has asked me to set up a new modem/router for them.

They are on NTL.

So the question is do they need an ordinary modem/router-in-1 box, or do
they need a special cable modem/router-in-1 box?

Looking at the dabs website, it is not clear which will be required.




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F9 wrote:
> A friend has asked me to set up a new modem/router for them.
>
> They are on NTL.
>
> So the question is do they need an ordinary modem/router-in-1 box, or do
> they need a special cable modem/router-in-1 box?
>
> Looking at the dabs website, it is not clear which will be required.
>
>
>
>
They do not need to supply /any/ modem to connect to ntl's cable service
- ntl supply and configure a cable modem. If you have a single PC, you
can in principle plug this straight into the ntl modem - but /must/ be
aware of the risks of not having proper protection from nasties on the net.

Otherwise they will need a straightforward router (ethernet to ethernet
and/or wireless), which will connect via ethernet to ntl's cable modem.
Any router with NAT will provide some protection from external probings.

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"F9" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> A friend has asked me to set up a new modem/router for them.
>
> They are on NTL.
>
> So the question is do they need an ordinary modem/router-in-1
> box, or do they need a special cable modem/router-in-1 box?
>
> Looking at the dabs website, it is not clear which will be
> required.
>
You need a router *without* a built-in modem. These are often called
"Cable/DSL Router". Suggest you choose one with wireless capability
built-in, it's a lot cheaper than adding wireless capability later
when they (inevitably) need it.

You'll find details on how to set it up here:
http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/

Specific example:
http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/linksys.html

"Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "F9" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:44c62098$0$3571$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>> A friend has asked me to set up a new modem/router for them.
>>
>> They are on NTL.
>>
>> So the question is do they need an ordinary modem/router-in-1
>> box, or do they need a special cable modem/router-in-1 box?
>>
>> Looking at the dabs website, it is not clear which will be
>> required.
>>
> You need a router *without* a built-in modem. These are often called
> "Cable/DSL Router". Suggest you choose one with wireless capability
> built-in, it's a lot cheaper than adding wireless capability later
> when they (inevitably) need it.

I had wireless and have now removed it from my network. i`ve got fed up of
fixing other peoples wireless problems, and a wired network is faster, more
secure and generally nicer for me. The problem is that I have to buy
wireless kit if I`m in a ruch, it`s difficult to get a wired only router on
the high street :-(

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:42:32 +0100, "F9" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>A friend has asked me to set up a new modem/router for them.
>
>They are on NTL.
>
>So the question is do they need an ordinary modem/router-in-1 box, or do
>they need a special cable modem/router-in-1 box?
>
>Looking at the dabs website, it is not clear which will be required.
The easiest route is just to buy a wireless router and connect this to
the existing supplied NTL cable modem. Might as well buy a wireless
router while your at it. Used ones are cheap on ebay. The thinking
behind just buying a bog standard wireless router (minus built in
modem) is that it can be used on cable and DSL networks.



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> "Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> I had wireless and have now removed it from my network. i`ve got fed up
> of fixing other peoples wireless
> problems, and a wired network is faster, more secure and
> generally nicer for me. The problem is that I have to
> buy wireless kit if I`m in a ruch, it`s difficult to get
> a wired only router on the high street :-(

I have wireless but only use it if I need to use my laptop out of range of
an Ethernet socket.

Ivor

"tarquinlinbin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The easiest route is just to buy a wireless router and
> connect this to the existing supplied NTL cable modem.
> Might as well buy a wireless router while your at it.
> Used ones are cheap on ebay. The thinking behind just
> buying a bog standard wireless router (minus built in
> modem) is that it can be used on cable and DSL networks.

So where can you buy an ASDL modem (without router) now..? I've not seen
one recently.

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "tarquinlinbin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> [snip]
>
>> The easiest route is just to buy a wireless router and
>> connect this to the existing supplied NTL cable modem.
>> Might as well buy a wireless router while your at it.
>> Used ones are cheap on ebay. The thinking behind just
>> buying a bog standard wireless router (minus built in
>> modem) is that it can be used on cable and DSL networks.
>
> So where can you buy an ASDL modem (without router) now..? I've
> not seen one recently.
>
Choice of 6 models here:
http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...?CategoryID=34

"Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> "Ivor Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> > So where can you buy an ASDL modem (without router)
> > now..? I've not seen one recently.
> >
> Choice of 6 models here:
> http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...?CategoryID=34

Hmm, the first one (Netgear DG632) says in the spec:

>NETGEAR's combination 2-port router, modem, and firewall plugs directly
> into your ADSL line for instant connectivity ...

The Zoom 5560 also has a router in it, and the Zoom 5551 says "With its
built-in Internet gateway, the X4 can provide ADSL access to up to 253
computers, all at the same time!" which would indicate to me the presence
of a router.

Still, the other three don't make any mention of router capability so
maybe they are plain modems.

Ivor

"Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "F9" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>> A friend has asked me to set up a new modem/router for them.
>>
>> They are on NTL.
>>
>> So the question is do they need an ordinary modem/router-in-1
>> box, or do they need a special cable modem/router-in-1 box?
>>
>> Looking at the dabs website, it is not clear which will be
>> required.
>>
> You need a router *without* a built-in modem. These are often called
> "Cable/DSL Router". Suggest you choose one with wireless capability
> built-in, it's a lot cheaper than adding wireless capability later
> when they (inevitably) need it.
>
> You'll find details on how to set it up here:
> http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/
>
> Specific example:
> http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/linksys.html

Thanks for this. Helped a lot.



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