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BKCK017
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      10-24-2007, 05:21 PM

I don't high speed internet right now. I have dial up. So I was using my
neighbors router for high speed with my wireless USB adapter. (NETGEAR
MA11 Version 1)

I went into router config and enabled MAC filtering without adding my
PC to the list. Now I can't connect.

There was no PC's on the list anyway so no wireless PC can connect. And
I can't change my MAC to an allowed MAC because there are no allowed
PC's.

The only thing to do would be to reset my neighbors router or they
change the setting.

Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?

What can I do?

My adapter uses prism chipset.


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Dave
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      10-24-2007, 07:02 PM
On Oct 24, 11:21 am, BKCK017 <BKCK017.2yy...@no-mx.wirelessforums.org>
wrote:
> I don't high speed internet right now. I have dial up. So I was using my
> neighbors router for high speed with my wireless USB adapter. (NETGEAR
> MA11 Version 1)
>
> I went into router config and enabled MAC filtering without adding my
> PC to the list. Now I can't connect.
>
> There was no PC's on the list anyway so no wireless PC can connect. And
> I can't change my MAC to an allowed MAC because there are no allowed
> PC's.
>
> The only thing to do would be to reset my neighbors router or they
> change the setting.
>
> Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?
>
> What can I do?
>
> My adapter uses prism chipset.
>
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Why would you want to use your neighbor's Internet access without them
knowing about it?

 
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Fred
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      10-24-2007, 08:29 PM

"BKCK017" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> I don't high speed internet right now. I have dial up. So I was using my
> neighbors router for high speed with my wireless USB adapter. (NETGEAR
> MA11 Version 1)
>
> I went into router config and enabled MAC filtering without adding my
> PC to the list. Now I can't connect.
>
> There was no PC's on the list anyway so no wireless PC can connect. And
> I can't change my MAC to an allowed MAC because there are no allowed
> PC's.
>
> The only thing to do would be to reset my neighbors router or they
> change the setting.
>
> Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?
>
> What can I do?
>
> My adapter uses prism chipset.
>



Wait for them to reset it, which obviously they will have to do. Just start
up a conversation and quietly introduce computers. As soon as they mention
their problem tell them how to reset their router. No doubt they won't know,
or they would have some level of security enabled. Then if you tell them no
more than that you will both be able to use it again. Don't repeat the
mistake..


 
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William R. Walsh
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      10-24-2007, 10:48 PM
Hi!

> I went into router config and enabled MAC filtering without adding my
> PC to the list. Now I can't connect.


I would love to hear the reasoning behind this. :-)

> Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?
>
> What can I do?


Well...if the MAC filter applies to the wired clients as well, they'll
figure it out pretty quickly. At which point they'll do one of a few things:

1. Reset the router to its defaults and leave things as they were.
2. Buy a new router because the "old one failed".
3. (possibly) Set up the old router post-reset or install the new one with
some security enabled at this point.

I suppose you could try for the honest approach, but they may not be pleased
at all. It's hard to tell given that they weren't too concerned about
securing it in the first place. Or you could do as another poster suggested
and kind of work your way into a conversation about computers and routers.
If the conversation goes on, you can see if they're willing to let you "fix"
the router.

Or you can get your own broadband 'net service. Prices have come down in
many places.

William


 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      10-25-2007, 03:50 AM
"William R. Walsh"
<(E-Mail Removed) m> hath wroth:

>> Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?
>> What can I do?


>Well...if the MAC filter applies to the wired clients as well, they'll
>figure it out pretty quickly.


Nope. The MAC filters only apply to wireless clients on most bottom
to the line routers. They won't notice.

>At which point they'll do one of a few things:
>
>1. Reset the router to its defaults and leave things as they were.
>2. Buy a new router because the "old one failed".
>3. (possibly) Set up the old router post-reset or install the new one with
>some security enabled at this point.


Well, it the neighbor is using wireless clients, there will be
connectivity problems. So, they hire an overpriced computer expert
(like me), who will sell them all new hardware, charge them for
"fixing" the problem, which will probably involve resetting the router
to defaults. When Mr BKCK017 shows up to play helpful hero, he'll
probably get presented with a substantial bill.

>I suppose you could try for the honest approach, but they may not be pleased
>at all.


I'm usually partial to the honest approach, but there are exceptions.
For example, if the owner is gun toteing homicidal maniac, methinks
honesty might be a bad idea.

>It's hard to tell given that they weren't too concerned about
>securing it in the first place. Or you could do as another poster suggested
>and kind of work your way into a conversation about computers and routers.
>If the conversation goes on, you can see if they're willing to let you "fix"
>the router.


As I mentioned, that has to be done BEFORE they spend a fortune fixing
Mr BKCK017 dumb mistake.

>Or you can get your own broadband 'net service. Prices have come down in
>many places.


That's too easy and no fun. Actually, it's fairly easy to work around
the problem with MAC spoofing, but I don't want to make things worse.
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Sqwertz
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      10-25-2007, 03:56 AM
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:21:25 -0400, BKCK017 wrote:

> I don't high speed internet right now. I have dial up. So I was using my
> neighbors router for high speed with my wireless USB adapter. (NETGEAR
> MA11 Version 1)
>
> I went into router config and enabled MAC filtering without adding my
> PC to the list. Now I can't connect.
>
> Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?


That was pretty selfish of you - trying to disable your neighbors
router so nobody else could steal internet access from him.

How did you think you were going to add his devices, anyway?

-sw
 
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jch
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      10-26-2007, 09:01 PM
"BKCK017" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> I don't high speed internet right now. I have dial up. So I was using my
> neighbors router for high speed with my wireless USB adapter. (NETGEAR
> MA11 Version 1)
>
> I went into router config and enabled MAC filtering without adding my
> PC to the list. Now I can't connect.
>
> There was no PC's on the list anyway so no wireless PC can connect. And
> I can't change my MAC to an allowed MAC because there are no allowed
> PC's.
>
> The only thing to do would be to reset my neighbors router or they
> change the setting.
>
> Considering they didn't know I was using it I can't do anything?
>
> What can I do?
>


Serendipitious justice if you ask me. You locked yourself out of a network
you were trying to use without permission. And now you come here asking
what you can do? Stay out of your neighbor's router admin page. That's
what. Get your own access. It's one thing to use a neighbor as an
occassional hot spot. It's another thing entirely to try and configure
their router.


 
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