Bulldog vs Easynet/UK Online

Hi all,

Lucky me - I'm about to move into a house served by both of the big LLU
providers! I like the idea of a nice fast connection, with high
limits, so I'm thinking of going with one or the other. ntl is also
available but nope. Never again. I don't suppose that anyone has had
any direct experience with each, but does anyone recommend one?

UK Online is the most tempting currently, since Bulldog make you switch
to their phone package too. I want the flexibility of BT (aka 1899 and
the like), as well as the possibility if it does all go tits up to
easily move. Do both provide an modem with an Ethernet connection?

Anyone got any thoughts?

Also, lay down your referral codes if you have any... *watches as
thread descends into a madhouse*

Thanks a lot!

Martin

On 26 Jun 2005 15:31 -0700, "Mad Marty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>*watches as thread descends into a madhouse*

.... in which case, you should invite responses by e-mail... and just
make a single additional post to comment that you've now had a reply.

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I'm with UK Online 8meg package. Bloody good, don't get quite an 8 meg
connection, but I am about 2 miles from the exchange, and the router is
plugged into an extension in the house, but I still connect at 7meg. Get
sustained download rates of about 500-600 KB/s from reliable servers.
Never had any serious problems, occasional drop-outs, but it's usually
sorted pretty quick.

If you do sign up, my user name is (E-Mail Removed), use that and we
both get a free month

Pete.


"Mad Marty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> Lucky me - I'm about to move into a house served by both of the big LLU
> providers! I like the idea of a nice fast connection, with high
> limits, so I'm thinking of going with one or the other. ntl is also
> available but nope. Never again. I don't suppose that anyone has had
> any direct experience with each, but does anyone recommend one?
>
> UK Online is the most tempting currently, since Bulldog make you switch
> to their phone package too. I want the flexibility of BT (aka 1899 and
> the like), as well as the possibility if it does all go tits up to
> easily move. Do both provide an modem with an Ethernet connection?
>
> Anyone got any thoughts?
>
> Also, lay down your referral codes if you have any... *watches as
> thread descends into a madhouse*
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Martin
>

Pete. wrote:
> I'm with UK Online 8meg package. Bloody good, don't get quite an 8 meg
> connection, but I am about 2 miles from the exchange, and the router is
> plugged into an extension in the house, but I still connect at 7meg. Get
> sustained download rates of about 500-600 KB/s from reliable servers.
> Never had any serious problems, occasional drop-outs, but it's usually
> sorted pretty quick.
>
> If you do sign up, my user name is (E-Mail Removed), use that and we
> both get a free month
>
> Pete.
>

Thanks Pete - that sounds a good endorsement. I have just noticed
however that not only do they have a £50 connection charge, but also
charge for your ADSL hardware. Bulldog charge £1 connection and give
£12 off a month for 6 months, but still charge for the modem. Is this
normal? Bulldog is much cheaper over the first six months... Aren't
their any free connection offers? The trouble is that I can charge the
monthly fee on expenses - but not the connection... :| I might go with
them any way... *Googles for an offer or two*

Martin

On 28 Jun 2005 06:57:02 -0700, "Mad Marty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Pete. wrote:
>> I'm with UK Online 8meg package. Bloody good, don't get quite an 8 meg
>> connection, but I am about 2 miles from the exchange, and the router is
>> plugged into an extension in the house, but I still connect at 7meg. Get
>> sustained download rates of about 500-600 KB/s from reliable servers.
>> Never had any serious problems, occasional drop-outs, but it's usually
>> sorted pretty quick.
>>
>> If you do sign up, my user name is (E-Mail Removed), use that and we
>> both get a free month
>>
>> Pete.
>>
>
>Thanks Pete - that sounds a good endorsement. I have just noticed
>however that not only do they have a £50 connection charge, but also
>charge for your ADSL hardware. Bulldog charge £1 connection and give
>£12 off a month for 6 months, but still charge for the modem. Is this
>normal? Bulldog is much cheaper over the first six months... Aren't
>their any free connection offers? The trouble is that I can charge the
>monthly fee on expenses - but not the connection... :| I might go with
>them any way... *Googles for an offer or two*

Looking at your comment on NTL, I wouldnt recommend BD because they
are no different IMHO.

When I signed up with them March 04, it took 6 months to get
connected. In the meantime, the swap over from BT was set and I got
disconnected. 3 weeks later and the shakes setting in, I finally get
told "we are no longer offering the "primetime" product you ordered.

I eventually agree to pay £15 a month more for a similar (2mb) but
alltime connection (since I couldnt be without any longer. It was
agreed that for compensation, I would get 2 months free at the end on
my year.

In the meantime, I contacted them in March to look to upgrade. "It can
be done transparently" they claimed. So transparent, they have ignored
me! This week, I notice they have charged me twice (ie £80 in one
month) - and was going to call. 3 Days ago they contact me and tell me
its my lucky day, cos they are offering me an upgrade free! Except,
this offer was dearer than the one I signed for. (6 months @ £20 for
the ADSL instead of 12)

I tell the guy the whole sorry story and he tells me someone will call
me back shortly to discuss the over payment and teh fact "they have no
record of any 2 months free".

Oh, and when I told him they were also overcharging me, as the product
I am on is now £30 vice £40, he tells me I have to email. Whats the
point - they have NEVER answered one email I have sent them in the
past.

You can guess, no one has bothered to get back.

The guy I spoke to, tells me his name (when I asked for it) was Stan
Baldwin. Hmmm I wonder!

Luckily, I have an email from them regarding the 2 months - so if they
do try to charge - and also do not refund the double payment - they
will be in court.

Like I say, they are no differnt to "NTL Never Trust Liars", so if you
do go ahead, be it on your head.

I could offer my referral details - but I wouldnt sleep at night
knowing I had stiched someone up!



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>
> Looking at your comment on NTL, I wouldnt recommend BD because they
> are no different IMHO.
>
> <snips a sorry tale>

I have noticed quite a few bad comments about Bulldog on this very
group. I was hoping that it was down to non-LLU issues, but obviously
not.

My current thought is for Freedom2Surf. I noticed that they are
reselling EasyNet/UK Online's connection, and they seemingly have a
good reputation. Crunch day comes on Wednesday when the phone line is
hopefully hooked up.

Thanks for your detailed warning post - I don't want to go down that
road again.

Martin