Buffalo WHR-G125

Buffalo has a new device WHR-G125 that is DD-WRT compatible with a better
receiver that is cheaper than the WHR-HP-G54


http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...-speed-router/

Anyone have any experience, pro or con with this yet?

I ask as I'm ready to buy several WHR-HP-G54s

"NotMe" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Buffalo has a new device WHR-G125 that is DD-WRT compatible with a better
>receiver that is cheaper than the WHR-HP-G54
>
>http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...-speed-router/
>
>Anyone have any experience, pro or con with this yet?
>I ask as I'm ready to buy several WHR-HP-G54s

The lack of an external antenna really bugs me. I got to play with
one for a few minutes, but not long enough to run any measurements.
The owner also didn't want me to tear it apart. So, all I can say is
that it functioned as expected with the stock firmware.

FCCID FDI-09101584-0. Same FCCID for the WHR-G125 and the
WHR-HP-G125, which is rather suprising. However, the WHR-HP-G125 has
an external antenna connector. Both have 4MB of flash and 16MB of
ram, which is the same as the previous models.

I'm not sure about Buffalo's firmware versions. The clueless nitwit
that designed the firmware download site decided to designate the
downloads by the product name instead of model number. I guess(tm) is
that it's a "Wireless-G MIMO Performance* Ethernet Converter".
<http://www.buffalotech.com/support/downloads/>
Since both the old and new models have the same name, there's no way
to tell if the same version firmware is used, or if there's been a
change. Maybe asking Buffalo for a decoder chart that related the
names contrived by marketing to confuse us, against the model numbers
contrived by engineering to undo the confusion. Also note that the
FCC ID number is non-sensical and does not contain the product number,
which everyone else does. With little imagination, I could contrive a
conspiracy theory that suggests that Buffalo marketing is seriously
afraid of numbers and accurate product identification. I wonder what
would happen if I call support and ask questions without ever
revealing the product number.

I would post the exact FCC ID URL, but the FCC ID site seems to be
having a bad day (again):
Error Executing Database Query.
weblogic.common.resourcepool.ResourceDisabledExcep tion:
Pool OETDataSource is disabled, cannot allocate resources
to applications..
The error occurred on line 26.
Oh well.

When (and if) it comes back, go unto to:
<https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm>
and punch in "FDI" for the grantee code, and "-09101584-0" for the
mudel number. Don't forget the leading dash.

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It works with DD-WRT. Non-removable antenna is 2dbi vs 4 of the HP.

Check DD-WRT forum for details.

Steve

"seaweedsteve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| It works with DD-WRT. Non-removable antenna is 2dbi vs 4 of the HP.

Buffalo support maintains the antenna is removable.

Oops. My mistake then. And Jeff said: The lack of an external
antenna really bugs me. I can see the external antenna in the
photos. I remembered somebody said it was fixed. Or misremembered,
it seems.


But yes, DD-WRT says the new WHR-G125 IS supported, I saw that for
sure. They are focused on Buffalo over Linksys these days, it
seems. They sell them in their shop with DD-WRT already installed.

Steve

seaweedsteve <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Oops. My mistake then. And Jeff said: The lack of an external
>antenna really bugs me. I can see the external antenna in the
>photos. I remembered somebody said it was fixed. Or misremembered,
>it seems.

I was going to reply when the FCC web pile came back. It's still
dead. Good to know that government services only work during business
hours. The photos on the FCC ID docs should show it one way or other.
I could swear it wasn't removeable, but I didn't bother trying to
remove or pay much attention to the antenna. In other words, I might
be wrong. I might be able to call the customer with the radio and
ask.

>But yes, DD-WRT says the new WHR-G125 IS supported, I saw that for
>sure. They are focused on Buffalo over Linksys these days, it
>seems. They sell them in their shop with DD-WRT already installed.

For good reason. Buffalo hasn't released any products with
incompatible chipsets while Linksys has.

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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| seaweedsteve <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
|
| >Oops. My mistake then. And Jeff said: The lack of an external
| >antenna really bugs me. I can see the external antenna in the
| >photos. I remembered somebody said it was fixed. Or misremembered,
| >it seems.
|
| I was going to reply when the FCC web pile came back. It's still
| dead. Good to know that government services only work during business
| hours. The photos on the FCC ID docs should show it one way or other.
| I could swear it wasn't removable, but I didn't bother trying to
| remove or pay much attention to the antenna. In other words, I might
| be wrong. I might be able to call the customer with the radio and
| ask.
|
| >But yes, DD-WRT says the new WHR-G125 IS supported, I saw that for
| >sure. They are focused on Buffalo over Linksys these days, it
| >seems. They sell them in their shop with DD-WRT already installed.
|
| For good reason. Buffalo hasn't released any products with
| incompatible chipsets while Linksys has.

Jeff,

I'm going to buy several of the WHR-HP-G54 on Monday or Tuesday as I have a
right now need.

I'm willing to purchase a WHR-G125 of whatever flavor you recommend and send
it to you to play with if you'd like as I'd like your opinion against future
needs.

And yes I'm well aware of smoke-therefore-you-learn. FWIW I've toasted my
share long ago I just don't have access to the necessarey equipment anymore.

"NotMe" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I'm going to buy several of the WHR-HP-G54 on Monday or Tuesday as I have a
>right now need.

Well, the FCC ID web pile should be back on Monday morning when the
FCC comes back to work. Look at the web page to see if the external
antenna is removeable. FCCID FDI-09101584-0

>I'm willing to purchase a WHR-G125 of whatever flavor you recommend and send
>it to you to play with if you'd like as I'd like your opinion against future
>needs.

Thanks, but I don't have the time. I'm headed for surgery in a month.
Meanwhile, I prefer to goof off, loaf, procrastinate, and avoid
anything that looks like work until perhaps late August. I also have
a full load of projects sitting on the bench that have to be finished
first.

>And yes I'm well aware of smoke-therefore-you-learn. FWIW I've toasted my
>share long ago I just don't have access to the necessarey equipment anymore.

The personal mantra and web site is "Learn By Destroying". If you
haven't destroyed and repaired it, you don't know how it works. Good
luck. I'm fairly sure you'll be fine as I haven't seen any complaints
or obvious problems about the WHR-G125, yet.


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On Jun 16, 3:53 pm, "NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>
> Buffalo support maintains the antenna is removable.


I just saw this on DD-WRT forum:


"I picked up a couple of the 125 units based on the features table in
the wiki.. unfortunately the antenna is not removable but other than
that, it seems to be a great performer. "

Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Well, the FCC ID web pile should be back on Monday morning when the
>FCC comes back to work. Look at the web page to see if the external
>antenna is removeable. FCCID FDI-09101584-0

It's Monday morning and the FCC ID search engine is back after the
traditional weekend and holiday server crash and database corruption.
Our tax dollars inaction.

The photos here sure look like a non-removable antenna to me:
<https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=772668&native_or_pdf=pd f>
<https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=772670&native_or_pdf=pd f>

However, there was a "Class II Permissive Change" issued for a new
package which does have a removable antenna:
<https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=779730&native_or_pdf=pd f>
<https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=779731&native_or_pdf=pd f>

Interestingly, the cover letter does NOT itemize the change of antenna
or connector, and ignores the increase in TX power.
<https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=779728&native_or_pdf=pd f>
Permissive change? I don't think so. I guess the FCC was asleep,
didn't look at the photos, or perhaps was experiencing weekend
computer problems.

The problem is that both the WHR-G125 and the WHR-HP-G125 both have
the same FCC ID FDI-09101584-0. There's also no easy way to
distinguish between them in the documents. It's very unusual for two
different products to share the same FCC ID number. That's probably
why the model number is not imbedded in the FCC ID number, as with all
the other manufacturers.

My guess(tm) is that since the WHR-G125 is advertised and photographed
with a 2dBi antenna, while the WHR-HP-G125 is advertised with a 4dBi
antenna, only the WHR-HP-G125 comes with a detachable antenna. My
guess(tm) is that if you buy the WHR-G125, you'll get a permanently
affixed antenna.

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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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