BTMax or Tiscali LLU?

I have just learned (maybe old news) that alot of customers of Plusnet will
not be going on BT adsl max but being transferred to Tiscali LLU - if their
exchange is Tiscali LLU.

There is an opt out procedure here..
http://usergroup.plus.net/faq_tiscalioptout.php

Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I choose?
I think that if my exchange does have Tiscali LLU attached to it then I
better opt out. I reckon if I have a problem with the line I have more
chance of it being fixed by BT than Tiscali?

"Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:44495a3b$0$2577$(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have just learned (maybe old news) that alot of customers of Plusnet will
>not be going on BT adsl max but being transferred to Tiscali LLU - if their
>exchange is Tiscali LLU.
>
> There is an opt out procedure here..
> http://usergroup.plus.net/faq_tiscalioptout.php
>
> Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I choose?
> I think that if my exchange does have Tiscali LLU attached to it then I
> better opt out. I reckon if I have a problem with the line I have more
> chance of it being fixed by BT than Tiscali?
>
Isn't it always being fixed by BT?
Bert

On 22 Apr 2006, "Bert" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

>> Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I choose?
>> I think that if my exchange does have Tiscali LLU attached to it then I
>> better opt out. I reckon if I have a problem with the line I have more
>> chance of it being fixed by BT than Tiscali?

>Isn't it always being fixed by BT?

If it is the line, then yes, but I suspect the "problem" might include some
aspects of data transfer, and it would be down to Plus.Net contacting their
"network" supplier, Tiscali in this case, to check the data network back to
the local exchange... after that it may be raised with BT if everything is
considered OK, or maybe after Tiscali has been to the exchange to check the
DSLAM equipment, try some other card in their own kit, and then report that
back to HQ/report fault on line to BT... Of course the exact chain depends
on the problem and whose kit it is on... lots of finger-pointing chances!

I opted out mainly to ensure that if I want to migrate it will be from some
BT IPstream product (soon to be DSL Max, with luck) to another ISP using BT
rather than have some delay during switchover (ie needing a "cease") and if
it costs more for a new BT activation I'd then also be paying for it or get
locked in on contract for a while... migrating to another ISP is cheap and
might even be free :-) Peter M.

On 21 Apr 2006, "Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I choose?

You might find it worth subscribing to plusnet.service.* newsgroups.

"poster" <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 22 Apr 2006, "Bert" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
> I opted out mainly to ensure that if I want to migrate it will be
from some
> BT IPstream product (soon to be DSL Max, with luck) to another ISP
using BT
> rather than have some delay during switchover (ie needing a "cease")
and if
> it costs more for a new BT activation I'd then also be paying for it
or get
> locked in on contract for a while... migrating to another ISP is
cheap and
> might even be free :-) Peter M.

My thoughts exactly.

Eric

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Bert wrote:
> "Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:44495a3b$0$2577$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have just learned (maybe old news) that alot of customers of
>> Plusnet will not be going on BT adsl max but being transferred to
>> Tiscali LLU - if their exchange is Tiscali LLU.
>>
>> There is an opt out procedure here..
>> http://usergroup.plus.net/faq_tiscalioptout.php
>>
>> Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I
>> choose? I think that if my exchange does have Tiscali LLU attached
>> to it then I better opt out. I reckon if I have a problem with the
>> line I have more chance of it being fixed by BT than Tiscali?
>>
> Isn't it always being fixed by BT?
> Bert

Yes but its an extra move. Plusnet can go straight to BT. Or they will end
up going to Tiscali who then go to BT.

poster wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2006, "Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I
>> choose?
>
> You might find it worth subscribing to plusnet.service.*
> newsgroups.

Any particular one?

Bert wrote:
> "Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:44495a3b$0$2577$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have just learned (maybe old news) that alot of customers of
>> Plusnet will not be going on BT adsl max but being transferred to
>> Tiscali LLU - if their exchange is Tiscali LLU.
>>
>> There is an opt out procedure here..
>> http://usergroup.plus.net/faq_tiscalioptout.php
>>
>> Those who opt out of Tiscali will get BT adsl Max. So which do I
>> choose? I think that if my exchange does have Tiscali LLU attached
>> to it then I better opt out. I reckon if I have a problem with the
>> line I have more chance of it being fixed by BT than Tiscali?
>>
> Isn't it always being fixed by BT?
> Bert

Oh btw as it happens my exchange is not Tiscali LLU anyway so its not
important at the moment. :-)

On 22 Apr 2006 10:24, "Beck" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Any particular one?

Announcements, status and customer-feedback would be good bets for some
announcements and comments from customers... While there was a drop in
staff postings, it seems there has been a return to some earlier level,
insofar as Dave, Bob, Jon and Mand have posted (though there are still
some of questions seeming being avoided, partly depends on levels of
work, and partly on willingness to discuss some matters, perhaps).

Apart from the extra upload speed the Tiscali LLU provides I wonder if
Plusnet will make their products on Tiscalu LLU with added benefits like
increased caps? LLU bandwidth costs are muh cheaper than BT wholesale???

Dan