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David Bradley
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      06-16-2006, 01:58 PM
A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move over to
a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't know his
userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any documentation on
this matter is pretty unlikely.

So what information can be extracted from the PC, and indeed where would I
need to look and who do you contact to find out the password. Obviously some
security questions would be asked before that information is pased over so
what pieces of information do we need to gather together.

Would someone please suggest the ip numbers for the DNS entries? Once I have
all this information to hand I don't anticipated any problems in getting it up
and running but should the unexpected happen what is the number of the help
desk?

All responses received would be appreciated and I will post back my thanks
together with a progress report.

David Bradley


 
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Nicholas Thomas
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      06-16-2006, 02:26 PM
David Bradley wrote:
> A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move over to
> a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't know his
> userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any documentation on
> this matter is pretty unlikely.
>
> So what information can be extracted from the PC, and indeed where would I
> need to look and who do you contact to find out the password. Obviously some
> security questions would be asked before that information is pased over so
> what pieces of information do we need to gather together.
>
> Would someone please suggest the ip numbers for the DNS entries? Once I have
> all this information to hand I don't anticipated any problems in getting it up
> and running but should the unexpected happen what is the number of the help
> desk?
>
> All responses received would be appreciated and I will post back my thanks
> together with a progress report.
>
> David Bradley


Usually, you set your router to "auto", and it picks up the DNS servers
etc. for itself... it should then have a DNS proxy option (for static
IPs), or if you're using DHCP, it'll pass the addresses straight to the
clients.

Username for BT would be in the dial-up settings for the USB modem;
can't miss it, as the associated phone number is "0,38", IIRC.

I don't think BT use passwords; but don't quote me on that. Best off
calling their tech support with your BT account number (this should be
all that's required), and seeing if you can get it out of them...

Telephone number to call... 0800 800 060? Otherwise, just 150 it and
follow the menu options... or press 9 at any time to be xferred to an
advisor who'll put you where you want to be.

xF,

....Nick
 
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Joe Lee
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      06-16-2006, 02:32 PM

"David Bradley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move over
>to
> a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't know
> his
> userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any documentation
> on
> this matter is pretty unlikely.
>
> So what information can be extracted from the PC, and indeed where would I
> need to look


look at the modem login page. you should see the user name 7 it'll hopefully
'ring a bell' as to the password.

Joe Lee






and who do you contact to find out the password. Obviously some
> security questions would be asked before that information is pased over so
> what pieces of information do we need to gather together.
>
> Would someone please suggest the ip numbers for the DNS entries? Once I
> have
> all this information to hand I don't anticipated any problems in getting
> it up
> and running but should the unexpected happen what is the number of the
> help
> desk?
>
> All responses received would be appreciated and I will post back my thanks
> together with a progress report.
>
> David Bradley
>
>



 
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Reg Edwards
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      06-16-2006, 04:51 PM
What is the basic difference beween a USB modem and a Router?

Please answer in plain English as I am a novice.
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Keith Willcocks
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      06-16-2006, 05:32 PM

"David Bradley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move over
>to
> a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't know
> his
> userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any documentation
> on
> this matter is pretty unlikely.
>
> So what information can be extracted from the PC, and indeed where would I
> need to look and who do you contact to find out the password. Obviously
> some
> security questions would be asked before that information is pased over so
> what pieces of information do we need to gather together.
>
> Would someone please suggest the ip numbers for the DNS entries? Once I
> have
> all this information to hand I don't anticipated any problems in getting
> it up
> and running but should the unexpected happen what is the number of the
> help
> desk?
>
> All responses received would be appreciated and I will post back my thanks
> together with a progress report.
>



If you already have access to BT Yahoo I suggest you ask your question on
bt.broadband.support where the BTY experts reside.
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Keith Willcocks
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gort
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      06-16-2006, 05:46 PM
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:51:14 +0100, Reg Edwards wrote:

> What is the basic difference beween a USB modem and a Router?
>
> Please answer in plain English as I am a novice.
> ----
> Reg E.


Theres a fairly decent explanation here on wikipedia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router

They are really small computers which switch packets of data between the
internet and one or more computers. They also perform firewalling duties
these days, serve up IP addresses to your lan and do NAT. They give real
security to any home pc as opposed to the crap that are USB modems.

USB modems for broadband are like USB dialup modems, most of the work is
done by your pc in software so they put an overhead on your cpu. They also
can be a real pain in the ***** to setup and keep going. You will not find
many people recommending USB modems on here, but expect some return fire
now <g>.

HTH

Dave


 
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      06-16-2006, 05:46 PM
Reg Edwards wrote:
> What is the basic difference beween a USB modem and a Router?
>
> Please answer in plain English as I am a novice.
> ----
> Reg E.
>


In simple terms , a USB modem is an extension of a computer. A router
is a separate device.

More specifically, a modem will give your computer an IP address; a
router will take one for itself, and facilitate the communication of
other computers attached to it.

Stepping into complicated for a second, a router will intelligently
forward data from one interface to another (an interface having one to
many computers attached to it), depending on which computers are
attached where... the aim, of course, is to keep the amount of traffic
on each interface to a minimum.

xF,

....Nick
 
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tim
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      06-16-2006, 06:04 PM

"David Bradley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move over
>to
> a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't know
> his
> userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any documentation
> on
> this matter is pretty unlikely.
>

Why would you want to pressure your friend in to changing to a device that
"you" wanted?
It does seem a bit odd, unless it was to show him what an expert you are on
just remembering settings that you ask others for! If his USB modem was
working and he was happy with it as it seems he was, then leave him to it.
To him a connection is probably a connection - he could probably do without
you messing it up or trying to impress him repeating answers given here!
It just sounds like you're almost forcing yourself on him - I hope he tells
you where to go!


 
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      06-16-2006, 07:14 PM
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:04:39 GMT, "tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"David Bradley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move over
>>to
>> a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't know
>> his
>> userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any documentation
>> on
>> this matter is pretty unlikely.
>>

>Why would you want to pressure your friend in to changing to a device that
>"you" wanted?
>It does seem a bit odd, unless it was to show him what an expert you are on
>just remembering settings that you ask others for! If his USB modem was
>working and he was happy with it as it seems he was, then leave him to it.
>To him a connection is probably a connection - he could probably do without
>you messing it up or trying to impress him repeating answers given here!
>It just sounds like you're almost forcing yourself on him - I hope he tells
>you where to go!
>


I ask specific questions so that the task in hand can go smoothly and that the
computer[s] can brought up and running for productive purposes as quickly as
possible. Re-inventing the wheel when the possibility that someone else has a
blueprint to follow seems a sensible way forward. No one is obliged to
respond with the answers, but a little bit of help goes a long way.

I did not find it necessary in my original post to quantify the reasons for
the change where currently several computers and a laptop are connected
together using ICS and a wireless network. The host PC isn't to a particularly
high specification and can be sluggish when Internet traffic is passing
through it for the other PCs on he network. If the host PC is shut down for
maintenance purposes then all other clients loose internet connectivity which
is undesirable,

I believe it is "right and proper" to advise friends of better ways of doing
things which has real benefits for their computing experience and also has the
added bonus of enhancing security and restores and sluggish PC to its former
glory. Yes, I am knowledge about computing and networks, but that does not
mean that 'I know it all' and therefore use this newsgroup for assistance when
thought appropriate. To me your posting requires a robust response but as
there may be sensitive souls and those of tender years lurking here I will
just invite you to go for a long walk on a short pier.

David Bradley

 
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Keith Willcocks
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      06-16-2006, 07:18 PM

"David Bradley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:04:39 GMT, "tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>>"David Bradley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>>A friend has finally heeded my advice to ditch his USB modem and move
>>>over
>>>to
>>> a router. He is currently with btinternet.com but remarkably doesn't
>>> know
>>> his
>>> userid or password to connect to the Internet. Locating any
>>> documentation
>>> on
>>> this matter is pretty unlikely.
>>>

>>Why would you want to pressure your friend in to changing to a device that
>>"you" wanted?
>>It does seem a bit odd, unless it was to show him what an expert you are
>>on
>>just remembering settings that you ask others for! If his USB modem was
>>working and he was happy with it as it seems he was, then leave him to it.
>>To him a connection is probably a connection - he could probably do
>>without
>>you messing it up or trying to impress him repeating answers given here!
>>It just sounds like you're almost forcing yourself on him - I hope he
>>tells
>>you where to go!
>>

>
> I ask specific questions so that the task in hand can go smoothly and that
> the
> computer[s] can brought up and running for productive purposes as quickly
> as
> possible. Re-inventing the wheel when the possibility that someone else
> has a
> blueprint to follow seems a sensible way forward. No one is obliged to
> respond with the answers, but a little bit of help goes a long way.
>
> I did not find it necessary in my original post to quantify the reasons
> for
> the change where currently several computers and a laptop are connected
> together using ICS and a wireless network. The host PC isn't to a
> particularly
> high specification and can be sluggish when Internet traffic is passing
> through it for the other PCs on he network. If the host PC is shut down
> for
> maintenance purposes then all other clients loose internet connectivity
> which
> is undesirable,
>
> I believe it is "right and proper" to advise friends of better ways of
> doing
> things which has real benefits for their computing experience and also has
> the
> added bonus of enhancing security and restores and sluggish PC to its
> former
> glory. Yes, I am knowledge about computing and networks, but that does
> not
> mean that 'I know it all' and therefore use this newsgroup for assistance
> when
> thought appropriate. To me your posting requires a robust response but as
> there may be sensitive souls and those of tender years lurking here I will
> just invite you to go for a long walk on a short pier.
>
> David Bradley


I agree, and I repeat my suggestion: If, via your friends PC, you already
have access to BT Yahoo I suggest you ask your question on
bt.broadband.support where the BTY experts reside.
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