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      11-09-2005, 05:57 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/wlr_ofcom/

"In August, BT reduced the residential WLR charge from £9.24 a month to
£8.74 a month, but clearly Ofcom doesn't believe the UK's dominant fixed
line telco is being generous enough."

In other words BT$ is charging one price for itself for line rental,
and another much more expensive price for customers!!! Bar stewards!
How many times does everyone in industry including regulators by their
own activities and deeds have to go around saying BT$ needs to be
broken up?????????????????????????????????????


 
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      11-09-2005, 09:59 PM
> In other words BT$ is charging one price for itself for line rental,
> and another much more expensive price for customers!!!


While not doubting that BT are some distance from bankruptcy over this,
shurely this is the price BT Wholesale charges all retail operators -
including its own - to connect customers to the network?

Therefore just one price - then it competes with the others on the retail
offer. Which is the whole point of what limited separation has been imposed
so far - and exactly the same business model of any industry involving
wholesale or network costs.

How would breaking it up improve this? Presumably the wholesale/network arm
would still be a virtual monopoly requiring a good ass-kicking by Ofcom once
in a while?


 
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      11-10-2005, 06:44 PM
7 wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/wlr_ofcom/
>
> "In August, BT reduced the residential WLR charge from £9.24 a month
> to £8.74 a month, but clearly Ofcom doesn't believe the UK's dominant
> fixed line telco is being generous enough."
>
> In other words BT$ is charging one price for itself for line rental,
> and another much more expensive price for customers!!! Bar stewards!
> How many times does everyone in industry including regulators by their
> own activities and deeds have to go around saying BT$ needs to be
> broken up?????????????????????????????????????


So BT Wholesale charges £8.74 a month for the line.

BT Retail then have to run a billing system, employ customer service
advisors, account managers, sale people, etc. maintain buildings and make a
profit for share holders.

How much do you think this costs on top of the charge for line rental?

OLO also have similar costs do they sell you line rental for £8.74?

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      11-10-2005, 07:26 PM
Stephen Wray wrote:

> 7 wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/09/wlr_ofcom/
>>
>> "In August, BT reduced the residential WLR charge from £9.24 a month
>> to £8.74 a month, but clearly Ofcom doesn't believe the UK's dominant
>> fixed line telco is being generous enough."
>>
>> In other words BT$ is charging one price for itself for line rental,
>> and another much more expensive price for customers!!! Bar stewards!
>> How many times does everyone in industry including regulators by their
>> own activities and deeds have to go around saying BT$ needs to be
>> broken up?????????????????????????????????????

>
> So BT Wholesale charges £8.74 a month for the line.
>
> BT Retail then have to run a billing system, employ customer service
> advisors, account managers, sale people, etc. maintain buildings and make
> a profit for share holders.


A desktop unit can handle some 10,000 to 100,000 lines. If you didn't
know, POTS management would think they need a football field
to set up the krone racks.
Therein lies the problem. Under investment and under achievement.


> How much do you think this costs on top of the charge for line rental?
>
> OLO also have similar costs do they sell you line rental for £8.74?


Ofcome knows the precise figure from accounts and wasn't
satisfied with the way BT$ was overcharging for it.


 
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      11-11-2005, 12:30 AM
BT cannot justly be accused of overcharging because it has more sense
than to charge more than what the market will stand.

You suckers voted for a competitive system and that's what you got.
Why not protest about the price of petrol or the cost of the war in
Iraq which will have a far greater effect on your lives.


 
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      11-11-2005, 01:00 AM
Reg Edwards wrote

> BT cannot justly be accused of overcharging because it has more sense
> than to charge more than what the market will stand.
>
> You suckers voted for a competitive system and that's what you got.
> Why not protest about the price of petrol or the cost of the war in
> Iraq which will have a far greater effect on your lives.
>


The idiots who complain about the cost of BT are happy to spend £15 a
week on texting shite to their mates. No doubt they also whinge about
the BBC licence whilst giving £45 a month to Sky.







 
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