BT outage

Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
BT users?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020

Steve

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On 03/10/2011 15:09, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
> BT users?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020

AFAIK, it hasn't affected us.

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Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
> BT users?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>
> Steve
>
Not sure, the only fault recorded is a '21CN' fault by BT wholesale,
with IDNET, and that was fixed this morning: It suggests its not in the
backhaul but in a POP.

"Stephen Wolstenholme" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
> BT users?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>
> Steve


Do you mean "only course trouble" or cause?

On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:09:21 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
>BT users?
>
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>
>Steve

No

Any other ISP which is using the BT DSLAM would be affected for users
on affected DSLAMs / equipment (there are multiple DSLAMs in some
exchanges).

The BBC article actually mentions business customers being affected -
but a lot of those use DSL access lines these days.

However a power failure can be more widespread than that - other LLU
operators may have battery backup, but are unlikely to survive forever
without exchange power.

Finally some LLU uses BT or OLO backhaul equipment out of the exchange
(more likely in somewhere away from a major city) - once that is hit
by a power fault all the batteries in the world are not going to help
the LLU ISP customers get to the Internet.
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alexd wrote:
> Stephen Wolstenholme (for it is he) wrote:
>
>> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
>> BT users?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>
> Yes, just seemed to affect BT Retail customers.
>
Ergo it wasnt the DSLAMS as such, but the backhaul or a POP.

In message <-(E-Mail Removed)>, Wibble
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>"Stephen Wolstenholme" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
>> BT users?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>>
>> Steve
>
>
>Do you mean "only course trouble" or cause?
>
>
I think you are wasting your time! Even people born and educated in this
country in the last 30 years seem unable to speak or write English
properly anymore.

Education, or lack thereof, is probably the biggest factor. A recent
item on the BBC suggested that the habit of saying, for example, "1800s"
instead of "19th century" in so many programs, was because a lot of
people didn't understand how to work out which century was being
discussed.
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James Noble

On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 05:30:20 +0100
James Noble <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> In message <-(E-Mail Removed)>, Wibble
> <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
> >
> >"Stephen Wolstenholme" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
> >> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble
> >> for BT users?
> >>
> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> >
> >Do you mean "only course trouble" or cause?
> >
> >
> I think you are wasting your time! Even people born and educated in
> this country in the last 30 years seem unable to speak or write
> English properly anymore.
>
> Education, or lack thereof, is probably the biggest factor. A recent
> item on the BBC suggested that the habit of saying, for example,
> "1800s" instead of "19th century" in so many programs, was because a
> lot of people didn't understand how to work out which century was
> being discussed.

I agree with the lack of knowledge of how to speak and spell our
language, and so it is up to us to point out and correct such failures
whenever we see them.
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Davey.

On 04/10/2011 05:30, James Noble wrote:
> In message <-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Wibble <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>
>> "Stephen Wolstenholme" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only
>>> course trouble for
>>> BT users?
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>>>
>>> Steve
>>
>>
>> Do you mean "only course trouble" or cause?
>>
>>
> I think you are wasting your time! Even people born
> and educated in this country in the last 30 years seem
> unable to speak or write English properly anymore.
>

That's a bit harsh. I have found the odd homophone
creep in to my own typing, and of course! the
spell-checker accepts it. It's not lack of
understanding the word. I "hear" it in my head
without thinking about how it looks written down. I
guess my brain just supplies the "first match", not
looking at the context.

If you go back 30 years, you'd find plenty of adults
with poor literacy skills. There were lots of jobs
that didn't require it. That's not the case nowadays.
Literacy demands are much higher. We seem to
communicate more by writing and less by speech.

Incidentally, my spell-checker has flagged "anymore".
If you were being ironic, nice one!

> Education, or lack thereof, is probably the biggest
> factor. A recent item on the BBC suggested that the
> habit of saying, for example, "1800s" instead of "19th
> century" in so many programs, was because a lot of
> people didn't understand how to work out which century
> was being discussed.

I find that awkward, too, but for most of my life, we
didn't need to say "19th". We just said "last". Now,
when kids say "that's so last century", they mean,
well, people like us.

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:42:29 +0100, "Wibble"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Stephen Wolstenholme" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Does the outage at one of BT major exchanges only course trouble for
>> BT users?
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15154020
>>
>> Steve
>
>
>Do you mean "only course trouble" or cause?
>

Spelling corrector let loose!