BT Broadband improvement?

On 22nd Jan I was notified of a planned upgrade of my BT Broadband
connection, part of what appears a national programme. Today I had an email
that it has been successfully completed. The confirmation reminds me that
"For the next ten days or so, your broadband might slow down or occasionally
stop for short periods. That's normal and your speed will soon settle down."
But it says nothing about the expected IMPROVEMENT. Can anyone tell me what
that should be please?

FWIW, the speed test I did at 07:05 yesterday morning, before the change,
gave 6303 Kbps and the test at 07:10 this morning, presumably after the
upgrade, was 6302.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Andy Burns <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Terry Pinnell wrote:
>
>> On 22nd Jan I was notified of a planned upgrade of my BT Broadband
>> connection, part of what appears a national programme. Today I had an email
>> that it has been successfully completed.
>
>Well, assuming you're on the East Grinstead exchange, it was 21CN
>enabled last March, maybe BT Broadband have just got round to moving
>their customers over ...
>
>http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NDEGR
>
>Do you have an ADSL2+ capable router? What is your distance from
>exchange? (If you were getting 6Mbps before you would seem to be close
>enough that ADSL2+ should benefit you, but not in a major way
>
>http://www.internode.on.net/media/im...sl2-dist07.jpg
>
>You might get 8Mbps or a touch higher ...

Thanks Andy.

Yes,the details on the back of this Netgear router say it's 54 Mbps and
ADSL2+.

I'm pretty sure I've had around 6 Mbps for ages, although until yesterday I
hadn't checked it for months.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Andy Burns wrote:
> Terry Pinnell wrote:
>
>> On 22nd Jan I was notified of a planned upgrade of my BT Broadband
>> connection, part of what appears a national programme. Today I had an
>> email
>> that it has been successfully completed.
>
> Well, assuming you're on the East Grinstead exchange, it was 21CN
> enabled last March, maybe BT Broadband have just got round to moving
> their customers over ...
>
> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NDEGR
>
> Do you have an ADSL2+ capable router? What is your distance from
> exchange? (If you were getting 6Mbps before you would seem to be close
> enough that ADSL2+ should benefit you, but not in a major way
>
> http://www.internode.on.net/media/im...sl2-dist07.jpg
>
> You might get 8Mbps or a touch higher ...

Allegedly I have a ADSL2+ capable modem, but cometh the upgrade, my
downstream dropped by over 1 Mbit/s and my upstream almost doubled.

So from 7.4 Mbit/s to 6.3 Mbit/s downstream, and 500ishKbit/s to 1Mbit/s
upstream.

ISP is Demon, modem/router is Thomson S1.019 / 6.310peedtouch St510v6
and reports "G.992.5 Annex A" and is currently showing 1,019 / 6,310
Kbit/s upstream / downstream.

Personally, having heard similar stories (minimal improvement, no
improvement, less downstream) from a few places, I've come to the
conclusion that 2+ is just a con.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:14:13 +0000, Denis McMahon wrote:

> Allegedly I have a ADSL2+ capable modem, but cometh the upgrade, my
> downstream dropped by over 1 Mbit/s and my upstream almost doubled.
>
> So from 7.4 Mbit/s to 6.3 Mbit/s downstream, and 500ishKbit/s to 1Mbit/s
> upstream.

I had an old Zyxel 645R. When we went to ADSL2+, it all went flaky and
soon stopped working. The 645R is old and probably not ADSL2+ capable,
and the fallback obviously didn't work properly.

I had a Zyxel P660R ready, just hadn't configured it. When I did, it just
worked. Old speed was about 5.5Mb/s, went up to 9.7 Mb/s. 5km from
exchange.

--
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On 26/01/10 23:14, Denis McMahon wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
>> Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>
>>> On 22nd Jan I was notified of a planned upgrade of my BT Broadband
>>> connection, part of what appears a national programme. Today I had an
>>> email
>>> that it has been successfully completed.
>>
>> Well, assuming you're on the East Grinstead exchange, it was 21CN
>> enabled last March, maybe BT Broadband have just got round to moving
>> their customers over ...
>>
>> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/NDEGR
>>
>> Do you have an ADSL2+ capable router? What is your distance from
>> exchange? (If you were getting 6Mbps before you would seem to be close
>> enough that ADSL2+ should benefit you, but not in a major way
>>
>> http://www.internode.on.net/media/im...sl2-dist07.jpg
>>
>> You might get 8Mbps or a touch higher ...
>
> Allegedly I have a ADSL2+ capable modem, but cometh the upgrade, my
> downstream dropped by over 1 Mbit/s and my upstream almost doubled.
>
> So from 7.4 Mbit/s to 6.3 Mbit/s downstream, and 500ishKbit/s to 1Mbit/s
> upstream.
>
> ISP is Demon, modem/router is Thomson S1.019 / 6.310peedtouch St510v6
> and reports "G.992.5 Annex A" and is currently showing 1,019 / 6,310
> Kbit/s upstream / downstream.
>
> Personally, having heard similar stories (minimal improvement, no
> improvement, less downstream) from a few places, I've come to the
> conclusion that 2+ is just a con.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon

My speed went from 6 Mbit down/608k up to 11Mbit down and 1024k up.

I can live with that.


Ivor

> So from 7.4 Mbit/s to 6.3 Mbit/s downstream, and 500ishKbit/s to 1Mbit/s
> upstream.
>
> ISP is Demon, modem/router is Thomson S1.019 / 6.310peedtouch St510v6 and
> reports "G.992.5 Annex A" and is currently showing 1,019 / 6,310 Kbit/s
> upstream / downstream.
>
> Personally, having heard similar stories (minimal improvement, no
> improvement, less downstream) from a few places, I've come to the
> conclusion that 2+ is just a con.
>


Thats all a bit odd really. I've just checked your router and its got a
Broadcom chipset in it which is thought to be the best brand for ADSL2+. If
you were getting 7.4Mb on ADSL1 you should be singing and dancing on ADSL2+.
Your SNR margin didn't suddenly shoot up after the 'upgrade' did it?

--

WildCardZero

> ISP is Demon, modem/router is Thomson S1.019 / 6.310peedtouch St510v6
> and reports "G.992.5 Annex A" and is currently showing 1,019 / 6,310
> Kbit/s upstream / downstream.
>
> Personally, having heard similar stories (minimal improvement, no
> improvement, less downstream) from a few places, I've come to the
> conclusion that 2+ is just a con.
>
> Rgds
>
> Denis McMahon

you need a decent line to get more out of adsl2+
with a crappy line, you won't see a huge amount more speed

WCZ wrote:
>> So from 7.4 Mbit/s to 6.3 Mbit/s downstream, and 500ishKbit/s to
>> 1Mbit/s upstream.
>>
>> ISP is Demon, modem/router is Thomson S1.019 / 6.310peedtouch St510v6
>> and reports "G.992.5 Annex A" and is currently showing 1,019 / 6,310
>> Kbit/s upstream / downstream.
>>
>> Personally, having heard similar stories (minimal improvement, no
>> improvement, less downstream) from a few places, I've come to the
>> conclusion that 2+ is just a con.

> Thats all a bit odd really. I've just checked your router and its got a
> Broadcom chipset in it which is thought to be the best brand for
> ADSL2+. If you were getting 7.4Mb on ADSL1 you should be singing and
> dancing on ADSL2+. Your SNR margin didn't suddenly shoot up after the
> 'upgrade' did it?

Sadly I don't know what it was before the upgrade, adsl info (just got
it) is currently:

{demon-gw}=>:adsl info ?
Modemstate : up
Operation Mode : G.992.5 Annex A
Channel Mode : interleaved
Number of resets : 1

Vendor Local Remote
Country : 0f 00
Vendor : TMMB ????
VendorSpecific : 0000 0000
StandardRevisionNr : 00 00

Downstream Upstream
Margin [dB] : 9.0 6.0
Attenuation [dB] : 43.5 24.5
OutputPower [dBm] : 18.5 12.5

Intrinsic/Actual Bandwidth %
Upstream : 99
Downstream : 87

Available Bandwidth Cells/s Kbit/s
Downstream : 14882 6310
Upstream : 2403 1019


Transfer statistics
Errors
Received FEC : 2300218
Received CRC : 5044
Received HEC : 3915
Transmitted FEC : 0
Transmitted CRC : 138
Transmitted HEC : 63

Near end failures since reset
Loss of frame: 0 failures
Loss of signal: 0 failures
Loss of power: 0 failures
Errored seconds: 2912 seconds
Near end failures last 15 minutes
Loss of frame: 0 seconds
Loss of signal: 0 seconds
Loss of power: 0 seconds
Errored seconds: 0 seconds
Near end failures current day
Errored seconds: 229 seconds
Near end failures previous day
Errored seconds: 529 seconds
{demon-gw}=>

The ???? in vendor was an unrecognised character in my telnet client

Rgds

Denis McMahon

Geoff wrote:
>
>> ISP is Demon, modem/router is Thomson S1.019 / 6.310peedtouch St510v6
>> and reports "G.992.5 Annex A" and is currently showing 1,019 / 6,310
>> Kbit/s upstream / downstream.
>>
>> Personally, having heard similar stories (minimal improvement, no
>> improvement, less downstream) from a few places, I've come to the
>> conclusion that 2+ is just a con.
>>
>> Rgds
>>
>> Denis McMahon
>
> you need a decent line to get more out of adsl2+
> with a crappy line, you won't see a huge amount more speed

With a crappy line, would I have been getting 7.4 Mbit/s before the upgrade?

Rgds

Denis McMahon