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Ratty Burger
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      01-26-2005, 07:50 AM
Hi

A friend of mine has recently signed on to the basic BT Broadband
package, without asking me first (I would have recommended something
else for the same money). I went over to her place last night to check
things over, and when it comes to email, she can access her hotmail
account just fine. Given that she would like to receive some large
photos of new family members, which would break the limit of her hotmail
account, I suggested that she register for BT Yahoo Pay as You Go. This
gives her 250 Mbytes per account, and she can have a total of 5 accounts
going on her single registration, she just needs to login in every 90
days on her dial up to keep it going.

However, she would like to keep her emails offline locally on her hard
drive. Setting up the pop details to receive emails from her yahoo
account in Outlook 2003 was easy and seems to work quite well. Being
able to send emails from outlook is a different matter. I personally am
with Blue Yonder, so I set my SMTP details to point to the Blue Yonder
SMTP mail relay server, and authenticate with my Blue Yonder account
details. For other friends on Tiscali, I set their SMTP details to the
Tiscali SMTP server, but keep their POP details on BT Yahoo, giving them
the best of both worlds. However, BT Broadband say they do not provide
a SMTP mail relay server for free, and the Yahoo one at
mail.btinterent.com doesn't seem to work, or is not available on a non
BT Broadband ADSL link. BT Broadband do provide and upgrade to a paid
for service (£15 per year), but someone else must have found a way of
sending SMTP emails for free from BT Broadband. I have found some old
threads in this news group stating that they successfully used BT Yahoo,
but I believe both BT Broadband and BT Yahoo have made changes recently
that render most of these methods non functioning.

So has any one sorted this out recently, or can anyone check that their
existing method still works as of today, and tell me how to setup SMTP
on BT Broadband for free.

Many thanks
 
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      01-26-2005, 08:26 AM
Thus spaketh Ratty Burger:
> Hi
>
> A friend of mine has recently signed on to the basic BT Broadband
> package, without asking me first (I would have recommended something
> else for the same money). I went over to her place last night to
> check things over, and when it comes to email, she can access her
> hotmail account just fine. Given that she would like to receive some
> large photos of new family members, which would break the limit of
> her hotmail account, I suggested that she register for BT Yahoo Pay
> as You Go. This gives her 250 Mbytes per account, and she can have a
> total of 5 accounts going on her single registration, she just needs
> to login in every 90 days on her dial up to keep it going.
>
> However, she would like to keep her emails offline locally on her hard
> drive. Setting up the pop details to receive emails from her yahoo
> account in Outlook 2003 was easy and seems to work quite well. Being
> able to send emails from outlook is a different matter. I personally
> am with Blue Yonder, so I set my SMTP details to point to the Blue
> Yonder SMTP mail relay server, and authenticate with my Blue Yonder
> account details. For other friends on Tiscali, I set their SMTP
> details to the Tiscali SMTP server, but keep their POP details on BT
> Yahoo, giving them the best of both worlds. However, BT Broadband
> say they do not provide a SMTP mail relay server for free, and the
> Yahoo one at mail.btinterent.com doesn't seem to work, or is not
> available on a non BT Broadband ADSL link. BT Broadband do provide
> and upgrade to a paid for service (£15 per year), but someone else
> must have found a way of sending SMTP emails for free from BT
> Broadband. I have found some old threads in this news group stating
> that they successfully used BT Yahoo, but I believe both BT Broadband
> and BT Yahoo have made changes recently that render most of these
> methods non functioning.
>
> So has any one sorted this out recently, or can anyone check that
> their existing method still works as of today, and tell me how to
> setup SMTP on BT Broadband for free.
>
> Many thanks


She could run her own SMTP server, which you can download for free from:
http://www.softstack.com/freesmtp.html

In outlook express change the out going server to localhost


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      01-26-2005, 08:42 AM
On 26/01/2005 Ratty Burger wrote:

> So has any one sorted this out recently, or can anyone check that
> their existing method still works as of today, and tell me how to
> setup SMTP on BT Broadband for free.



I don't think you can. I had BT Midband (ISDN) and had to pay an extra
£1.50 a month for mail. I moved to Demon when broadband arrived in the
village.

You could set up a Yahoo free account (I use one for newsgroup
postings), you can use that for sending.

Otherwise you could set up a mail account with somebody like Easily, I
pay £10 for two years, and you can send/receive (and probably get a
decent 'domain' name). No spam check though.

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Rich
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      01-26-2005, 09:29 AM
On 26 Jan 2005 08:50:12 GMT, Ratty Burger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi
>
>A friend of mine has recently signed on to the basic BT Broadband
>package, without asking me first (I would have recommended something
>else for the same money). I went over to her place last night to check
>things over, and when it comes to email, she can access her hotmail
>account just fine. Given that she would like to receive some large
>photos of new family members, which would break the limit of her hotmail
>account, I suggested that she register for BT Yahoo Pay as You Go. This
>gives her 250 Mbytes per account, and she can have a total of 5 accounts
>going on her single registration, she just needs to login in every 90
>days on her dial up to keep it going.
>
>


My m8 on BT had the same problem with email, although now he pays bt
an extra £1.50 a month for his email service.

Easiest way around it is to get a gmail account as this comes with
POP3 and SSL SMTP servers all for free.

If you need an invite just let me know, I've got loads (8).

Rich

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      01-26-2005, 11:03 AM
Ratty Burger fumbled, fiddled and fingered:

> Hi
>
> A friend of mine has recently signed on to the basic BT Broadband
> package, without asking me first (I would have recommended something
> else for the same money). I went over to her place last night to
> check things over, and when it comes to email, she can access her
> hotmail account just fine. Given that she would like to receive some
> large photos of new family members, which would break the limit of
> her hotmail account,

<snip>

For simplicity what about paying for the full hotmail service it's 15
quid a year and you can set up Outlook express to collect the mail from
the service as well as use the web browser if you want.

see:
http://tinyurl.com/54svc

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      01-26-2005, 12:09 PM
"Steve Parry" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> For simplicity what about paying for the full hotmail service it's 15
> quid a year and you can set up Outlook express to collect the mail from
> the service as well as use the web browser if you want.


now there is a business idea ...


£15 a year and have your own domainname .... just for mail

I think I am going to stick that on my website

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      01-26-2005, 12:45 PM
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:35p622F4nosn1U1
@individual.net:

> http://www.softstack.com/freesmtp.html


I thought BT Broadband like a lot ISP stop you running your own smtp
server, especially on port 25, as it looks the same as a malware or trojan
that has it's own SMTP server. Has anyone had success with their own SMTP
server on BT Broadband, espcially recently has BT have made security
changes. In searching the net, people claim to use smtp.btbroadband.com,
using your usual adsl connection details to login. Anyone know if such a
solution works.
 
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      01-26-2005, 01:17 PM
Thus spaketh Ratty Burger:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:35p622F4nosn1U1
> @individual.net:
>
>> http://www.softstack.com/freesmtp.html

>
> I thought BT Broadband like a lot ISP stop you running your own smtp
> server, especially on port 25, as it looks the same as a malware or
> trojan that has it's own SMTP server. Has anyone had success with
> their own SMTP server on BT Broadband, espcially recently has BT have
> made security changes. In searching the net, people claim to use
> smtp.btbroadband.com, using your usual adsl connection details to
> login. Anyone know if such a solution works.


You can change the port, if you need to.


 
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      01-26-2005, 01:43 PM
On 26 Jan 2005 08:50:12 GMT, Ratty Burger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:




> However, BT Broadband say they do not provide
>a SMTP mail relay server for free, and the Yahoo one at
>mail.btinterent.com doesn't seem to work, or is not available on a non
>BT Broadband ADSL link.


the latter would be likely true, assuming you also spelled it
correctly.

ww.clara.net/btbroadband

Phil
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      01-26-2005, 02:39 PM
On 26 Jan 2005 08:50:12 GMT, Ratty Burger <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi
>

<snip>
>
>So has any one sorted this out recently, or can anyone check that their
>existing method still works as of today, and tell me how to setup SMTP
>on BT Broadband for free.
>


www.hotpop.com

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