BT Account name change - follow up

I gave BT the go ahead to change the landline account into my name.
Following the advice given by Paul Cupis, I arranged the stop and
immediate restart with BT, in order to avoid any problems with the
broadband account already on the line. I passed the details (BT's order
numbers) to my ISP. I know they contacted BT directly.

The stop/restart was scheduled for 5pm this evening. Until 5 minutes
ago, I had forgotten all about it. I am now happy to report, that
provided the work was undertaken (which I won't really know until the
next BT account arrives) everything appears to have gone smoothly.

And the moral of this tale is? You can change the BT account holder's
name without screwing up an existing broadband account already on that line.

Once more, my thanks to Paul Cupis.

Bypass has brought this to us :
> I gave BT the go ahead to change the landline account into my name. Following
> the advice given by Paul Cupis, I arranged the stop and immediate restart
> with BT, in order to avoid any problems with the broadband account already on
> the line. I passed the details (BT's order numbers) to my ISP. I know they
> contacted BT directly.
>
> The stop/restart was scheduled for 5pm this evening. Until 5 minutes ago, I
> had forgotten all about it. I am now happy to report, that provided the work
> was undertaken (which I won't really know until the next BT account arrives)
> everything appears to have gone smoothly.
>
> And the moral of this tale is? You can change the BT account holder's name
> without screwing up an existing broadband account already on that line.
>
> Once more, my thanks to Paul Cupis.

Erm, hopefully you are correct.......unfortunately, the ADSL cease
order may start when the PSTN cease order completes. ADSL cease may
take 5 days to complete. P'raps you might not know all went smoothly
for a little while yet.

Jono wrote:

> Erm, hopefully you are correct.......unfortunately, the ADSL cease order
> may start when the PSTN cease order completes. ADSL cease may take 5
> days to complete. P'raps you might not know all went smoothly for a
> little while yet.

I'm not quite sure what you mean here because there there is no ADSL
cease order involved. In order to change the account holder name, BT
temporarily stop, then restart the land line. What can happen, in the
process, is that the ISP fails to respond to BT's 'stop' notice. That's
when the problems start. My request to BT, that they immediately
restart the line, following the stop, avoids any problems. In my case,
I placed the order for the stop on 10 December 2006. My ISP contacted
BT on 11 December 2005 to 'cancel the cease'. The stop happened at 5pm
today, followed by the restart at 5.01pm. Consequently, there is no '5
days' to worry about.

Bypass explained :
> Jono wrote:
>
>> Erm, hopefully you are correct.......unfortunately, the ADSL cease order
>> may start when the PSTN cease order completes. ADSL cease may take 5 days
>> to complete. P'raps you might not know all went smoothly for a little while
>> yet.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean here because there there is no ADSL cease
> order involved. In order to change the account holder name, BT temporarily
> stop, then restart the land line. What can happen, in the process, is that
> the ISP fails to respond to BT's 'stop' notice. That's when the problems
> start. My request to BT, that they immediately restart the line, following
> the stop, avoids any problems. In my case, I placed the order for the stop
> on 10 December 2006. My ISP contacted BT on 11 December 2005 to 'cancel the
> cease'. The stop happened at 5pm today, followed by the restart at 5.01pm.
> Consequently, there is no '5 days' to worry about.

I was merely suggesting that if the ADSL cease has not been correctly
intercepted & stopped, you'll have to wait at least 5 days before you
can be confident that all's well.......the fact that ADSL is still
working is not an indication that it was all done as you asked.

"Bypass" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jono wrote:
>
>> Erm, hopefully you are correct.......unfortunately, the ADSL cease order
>> may start when the PSTN cease order completes. ADSL cease may take 5 days
>> to complete. P'raps you might not know all went smoothly for a little
>> while yet.
>
> I'm not quite sure what you mean here because there there is no ADSL cease
> order involved. In order to change the account holder name, BT
> temporarily stop, then restart the land line. What can happen, in the
> process, is that the ISP fails to respond to BT's 'stop' notice. That's
> when the problems start. My request to BT, that they immediately restart
> the line, following the stop, avoids any problems. In my case, I placed
> the order for the stop on 10 December 2006. My ISP contacted BT on 11
> December 2005 to 'cancel the cease'. The stop happened at 5pm today,
> followed by the restart at 5.01pm. Consequently, there is no '5 days' to
> worry about.
>

When a STOP order is raised on a PSTN line that has Broadband, unless steps
have been taken to protect the Broadband service (insertion of CSS A-codes
or other steps), it triggers an message to BT Wholesale to start the cease
process for the Broadband. This trigger does not happen until the STOP
order closes (ie it is completed for the customer and all the activities
done with the BT CSS systems), and can then take 5 days or more to work its
way through the system.

Therefore you can get the situation where the STOP / START appears to go
smoothly, but some time down the road your Broadband 'mysteriously'
disappears. This often happens where business use Broadband on a PSTN they
use for no other purpose and forget to pay the PSTN bill. The PSTN gets
stopped by billing, but the Broadband carries on for sometime after. Then
it all gets very messy.

Hopefully, because you told the BT people that you wanted to retain the
Broadband from your ISP, and you have advised your ISP accordingly, you
should *hopefully* not have too many problems.

J

Maneate wrote on 19/12/2006 :
> "Bypass" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
>> Jono wrote:
>>
>>> Erm, hopefully you are correct.......unfortunately, the ADSL cease order
>>> may start when the PSTN cease order completes. ADSL cease may take 5 days
>>> to complete. P'raps you might not know all went smoothly for a little
>>> while yet.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure what you mean here because there there is no ADSL cease
>> order involved. In order to change the account holder name, BT temporarily
>> stop, then restart the land line. What can happen, in the process, is that
>> the ISP fails to respond to BT's 'stop' notice. That's when the problems
>> start. My request to BT, that they immediately restart the line, following
>> the stop, avoids any problems. In my case, I placed the order for the stop
>> on 10 December 2006. My ISP contacted BT on 11 December 2005 to 'cancel
>> the cease'. The stop happened at 5pm today, followed by the restart at
>> 5.01pm. Consequently, there is no '5 days' to worry about.
>>
>
> When a STOP order is raised on a PSTN line that has Broadband, unless steps
> have been taken to protect the Broadband service (insertion of CSS A-codes or
> other steps), it triggers an message to BT Wholesale to start the cease
> process for the Broadband. This trigger does not happen until the STOP order
> closes (ie it is completed for the customer and all the activities done with
> the BT CSS systems), and can then take 5 days or more to work its way through
> the system.
>
> Therefore you can get the situation where the STOP / START appears to go
> smoothly, but some time down the road your Broadband 'mysteriously'
> disappears. This often happens where business use Broadband on a PSTN they
> use for no other purpose and forget to pay the PSTN bill. The PSTN gets
> stopped by billing, but the Broadband carries on for sometime after. Then it
> all gets very messy.
>
> Hopefully, because you told the BT people that you wanted to retain the
> Broadband from your ISP, and you have advised your ISP accordingly, you
> should *hopefully* not have too many problems.
>
> J

Couldn't have said it better myself.

In fact, I didn't say it better myself!

"Jono" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Couldn't have said it better myself.
>
> In fact, I didn't say it better myself!
>
>

Thank you. Its nice to recieve praise once in a while ;0)

J