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DAB sounds worse than FM
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      04-24-2008, 03:41 PM
The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next Wednesday.

Should I expect the earth to move?


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Howard Neil
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      04-24-2008, 04:16 PM
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next Wednesday.
>
> Should I expect the earth to move?
>
>


If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find
that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)



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      04-24-2008, 09:49 PM


"Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next Wednesday.
>>
>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>
>>

>
> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find that
> the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)


Its already digital and has been for years.
(8k 8 bit samples per second)

 
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      04-24-2008, 10:58 PM
dennis@home wrote:
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>
> "Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:_KidnbkGSdTbL43VnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@plusnet...
>> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>>> Wednesday.
>>>
>>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>>
>>>

>>
>> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find
>> that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)

>
> Its already digital and has been for years.
> (8k 8 bit samples per second)


Not on the local loop.

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      04-25-2008, 07:51 AM
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:58:40 +0100, Howard Neil
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>dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:_KidnbkGSdTbL43VnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@plusnet...
>>> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>>>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find
>>> that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)

>>
>> Its already digital and has been for years.
>> (8k 8 bit samples per second)

>
>Not on the local loop.


What changes are going to be made to the local loop post 21CN
changeover?
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      04-25-2008, 08:13 AM
PeterT wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:58:40 +0100, Howard Neil
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:_KidnbkGSdTbL43VnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@plusnet...
>>>> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>>>>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may
>>>> find that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking.
>>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Its already digital and has been for years.
>>> (8k 8 bit samples per second)

>>
>> Not on the local loop.

>
> What changes are going to be made to the local loop post 21CN
> changeover?


Nothing unfortunately. It's copper all the way to your house.

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      04-25-2008, 08:26 AM
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:13:12 +0100, "WCZ" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>PeterT wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:58:40 +0100, Howard Neil
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:_KidnbkGSdTbL43VnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@plusnet...
>>>>> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>>>>>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>>>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may
>>>>> find that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking.
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Its already digital and has been for years.
>>>> (8k 8 bit samples per second)
>>>
>>> Not on the local loop.

>>
>> What changes are going to be made to the local loop post 21CN
>> changeover?

>
>Nothing unfortunately. It's copper all the way to your house.


Yes, the question was rhetorical - I'm interested to see what changes
Howard Neil expects to be made to it to make it a "digital" local
loop!!-)
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      04-25-2008, 10:29 AM
Howard Neil <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>> Wednesday.
>>
>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>
>>

>
> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find
> that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)
>
>
>


Hasn't the whole network been using G.711a (64k) on all calls since
System-X came in. The conversion is in the line card for your loop (or at
you local site if you have ISDN2e (or indeed VoIP).

Why should the local loop sound different unless they are compressing with
a low MoS algorithm?

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Howard Neil
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      04-25-2008, 11:39 AM
PeterW wrote:
> Howard Neil <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:_KidnbkGSdTbL43VnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@plusnet:
>
>> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>>> Wednesday.
>>>
>>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>>
>>>

>> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find
>> that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)
>>
>>
>>

>
> Hasn't the whole network been using G.711a (64k) on all calls since
> System-X came in. The conversion is in the line card for your loop (or at
> you local site if you have ISDN2e (or indeed VoIP).
>
> Why should the local loop sound different unless they are compressing with
> a low MoS algorithm?


It was an attempt at humour, given the OP's sig.

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      04-25-2008, 12:13 PM

"Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Howard Neil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:_KidnbkGSdTbL43VnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@plusnet...
>>> DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>>>> The exchange I'm on has got a WBC 21CN activation date of next
>>>> Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> Should I expect the earth to move?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you believe that analogue sounds better than digital, you may find
>>> that the sound quality of your phone is not to your liking. ;-)

>>
>> Its already digital and has been for years.
>> (8k 8 bit samples per second)

>
> Not on the local loop.


Yes if you had Highway and an ISDN phone - much better than analog!

One could even double up to improve quality (radio stations use to do this),
although I never bothered.

IIRC the last BT analog switch was retired in the early ninties.

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