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maitakeboy
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      08-20-2009, 09:02 PM
I recently added server 2008 DCs to all my domains, transferred the FSMO
roles to them, then demoted the Windows 2000 DCs. Since then, I cannot browse
remote subnets. I have not installed WINS, as I was told it was not necessary
with server 2008. Can someone clear this up for me? Do I need WINS in order
to browse across subnets? I need this ability since several applications I
use are configured using browse windows.
Everything else on my network, DHCP, DNS, AD is working fine except for this.
 
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Bill Grant
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      08-21-2009, 04:04 AM



"maitakeboy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I recently added server 2008 DCs to all my domains, transferred the FSMO
> roles to them, then demoted the Windows 2000 DCs. Since then, I cannot
> browse
> remote subnets. I have not installed WINS, as I was told it was not
> necessary
> with server 2008. Can someone clear this up for me? Do I need WINS in
> order
> to browse across subnets? I need this ability since several applications I
> use are configured using browse windows.
> Everything else on my network, DHCP, DNS, AD is working fine except for
> this.


The computer browser service is an NT legacy app, but there is not really
any replacement for it in W2000/2008. If you want to browse across a routed
network you still need WINS. Do you have any non-2008 servers to run WINS
on?

I think that the computer browser service is disabled by default in 2008,
but it is still there.


 
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Ace Fekay [MCT]
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      08-21-2009, 04:23 AM

"Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message
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>
>
> "maitakeboy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:83C1A812-6D13-4FC5-9403-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I recently added server 2008 DCs to all my domains, transferred the FSMO
>> roles to them, then demoted the Windows 2000 DCs. Since then, I cannot
>> browse
>> remote subnets. I have not installed WINS, as I was told it was not
>> necessary
>> with server 2008. Can someone clear this up for me? Do I need WINS in
>> order
>> to browse across subnets? I need this ability since several applications
>> I
>> use are configured using browse windows.
>> Everything else on my network, DHCP, DNS, AD is working fine except for
>> this.

>
> The computer browser service is an NT legacy app, but there is not really
> any replacement for it in W2000/2008. If you want to browse across a
> routed network you still need WINS. Do you have any non-2008 servers to
> run WINS on?
>
> I think that the computer browser service is disabled by default in
> 2008, but it is still there.
>
>



Bill,

I actually have one customer with two locations, routed, without WINS that
the neighborhood works fine. I know, I know, you're going to say, no way, as
I did, but us old heads (no age reference) from the NT days still think on
the terms of WINS, but lo and behold, I found otherwise. I know, call me
nuts... So I researched it a bit more, and didn't find anything that
explained how Windows 2000 and newer uses AD and Direct (or indirect?) SMB
to populate the neighborhood and provide NetBIOS name resolution, but
doesn't work with legacy clients, which you would need WINS. However it
doesn't explain whether it actually uses the browser service or not, or the
exact mechanism, which I want to know, rather just a generality. I think if
the poster enables the browser service without WINS, it may just work,
unless there are any firewall blocks on 445.

Check out the beginning paragraph... Yea, I've read this article over the
years dozens of times, but it never struck me until recently after
re-reading the first paragraph.

Description of the Microsoft Computer Browser Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/188001

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