Browsing Server 2003 redirected folders with XP is slow!!!

I have 'My Docs' folder redirection enabled with GP on server 2003. When I
browse the folder on a XP machine, it responds very slow. An example would be
if I right click a file to get the context menu, the menu takes a long time
to come up.

Thanks

In news:3E477350-DEF9-4605-95BC-(E-Mail Removed),
HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
I commented on below:
> I have 'My Docs' folder redirection enabled with GP on server 2003.
> When I browse the folder on a XP machine, it responds very slow. An
> example would be if I right click a file to get the context menu, the
> menu takes a long time to come up.
>
> Thanks

This can be attributed to a DNS issue, which is a classic issue. In an AD
environment, ensure that all machines only use the internal DNS server. All
AD services and resource locations are stored in DNS. A domain machine (DC,
member server or client) will contact DNS to "find" a DC to authenticate
against. If browsing is ok, then attempting to open a share is slow, there
may be an authentication issue, which if the machine is configured to use an
ISP's DNS, then it is asking that DNS for a DC in it's domain, which it does
not have an answer for.

If all the machines in the domain are already ONLY using the internal DNS
server in their IP properties, then we can eliminate the above issue.
Therefore, if I may suggest to post an ipconfig /all of the DC and of one of
the clients, along with an Event ID errors that are showing up in the Event
viewer of the client and DC.

--
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

> In news:3E477350-DEF9-4605-95BC-(E-Mail Removed),
> HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
> I commented on below:
> > I have 'My Docs' folder redirection enabled with GP on server 2003.
> > When I browse the folder on a XP machine, it responds very slow. An
> > example would be if I right click a file to get the context menu, the
> > menu takes a long time to come up.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> This can be attributed to a DNS issue, which is a classic issue. In an AD
> environment, ensure that all machines only use the internal DNS server. All
> AD services and resource locations are stored in DNS. A domain machine (DC,
> member server or client) will contact DNS to "find" a DC to authenticate
> against. If browsing is ok, then attempting to open a share is slow, there
> may be an authentication issue, which if the machine is configured to use an
> ISP's DNS, then it is asking that DNS for a DC in it's domain, which it does
> not have an answer for.
>
> If all the machines in the domain are already ONLY using the internal DNS
> server in their IP properties, then we can eliminate the above issue.
> Therefore, if I may suggest to post an ipconfig /all of the DC and of one of
> the clients, along with an Event ID errors that are showing up in the Event
> viewer of the client and DC.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Having difficulty reading or finding responses to your post?
> Instead of the website you're using, I suggest to use OEx (Outlook Express
> or any other newsreader), and configure a news account, pointing to
> news.microsoft.com. This is a direct link to the Microsoft Public
> Newsgroups. It is FREE and requires NO ISP's Usenet account. OEx allows you
> to easily find, track threads, cross-post, sort by date, poster's name,
> watched threads or subject.
>
> It's easy:
> How to Configure OEx for Internet News
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=171164
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
> Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile
> "Very funny Scotty. Now, beam down my clothes."
>
> The only thing in life is change. Anything more is a blackhole consuming
> unnecessary energy. - [Me]
>
>
>
> Thanks for replying Ace,

The only DNS in the client IP settings are internal DNS settings, and there
is nothing in the clent event viewer to indicate anything wrong. I am using
load balancing on the server for a different IP range and subnet. The only
time I have a problem is when I am browsing with XP. 2000 works fine. I do
have some MS updates to do. The DC (which is also the DNS server) has its
first DNS set to itself and the second DNS set to our corp DNS. As for the DC
event viewer, I have saved the DNS, App, and the System logs. Is there a
specific event ID I should look for. Or could I email them to you, or what
would be the best way fot you to see them.

Thanks again!!!

In newsB7A83F3-816A-4018-9AF0-(E-Mail Removed),
HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
I commented on below:
>
> The only DNS in the client IP settings are internal DNS settings, and
> there is nothing in the clent event viewer to indicate anything
> wrong. I am using load balancing on the server for a different IP
> range and subnet. The only time I have a problem is when I am
> browsing with XP. 2000 works fine. I do have some MS updates to do.
> The DC (which is also the DNS server) has its first DNS set to itself
> and the second DNS set to our corp DNS. As for the DC event viewer, I
> have saved the DNS, App, and the System logs. Is there a specific
> event ID I should look for. Or could I email them to you, or what
> would be the best way fot you to see them.
>
> Thanks again!!!

Possibly the load balance IP is not registered in WINS?

Ace

"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

> In newsB7A83F3-816A-4018-9AF0-(E-Mail Removed),
> HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
> I commented on below:
> >
> > The only DNS in the client IP settings are internal DNS settings, and
> > there is nothing in the clent event viewer to indicate anything
> > wrong. I am using load balancing on the server for a different IP
> > range and subnet. The only time I have a problem is when I am
> > browsing with XP. 2000 works fine. I do have some MS updates to do.
> > The DC (which is also the DNS server) has its first DNS set to itself
> > and the second DNS set to our corp DNS. As for the DC event viewer, I
> > have saved the DNS, App, and the System logs. Is there a specific
> > event ID I should look for. Or could I email them to you, or what
> > would be the best way fot you to see them.
> >
> > Thanks again!!!
>
> Possibly the load balance IP is not registered in WINS?
>
> Ace
>
>
> I added the IP to the WINS section but it did not resolve the issue.

--------------CLIENT IPCONFIG---------------------
IP - X.X.152.199
SUB - 255.255.254.0
DG - X.X.152.1
DNS - X.X.153.4

Primary DNS Suffix - wellington.uhsinc.biz
DNS Suffix Search - wellington.uhsinc.biz, uhsinc.biz



-------------SERVER IPCONFIG-----------------------
IP - X.X.13.133 (load balancing ip)
SUB - 255.255.255.0
IP - X.X.153.4
SUB - 255.255.254.0
DG - X.X.152.1

DNS1 - X.X.153.4 (local)
DNS2 - X.X.24.211 (corp)
WINS - X.X.13.133
WINS - X.X.153.4

Thanks

>
>

In news:688FA34B-E0CA-4FAB-BD2A-(E-Mail Removed),
HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
I commented on below:

> I added the IP to the WINS section but it did not resolve the issue.
>
> --------------CLIENT IPCONFIG---------------------
> IP - X.X.152.199
> SUB - 255.255.254.0
> DG - X.X.152.1
> DNS - X.X.153.4
>
> Primary DNS Suffix - wellington.uhsinc.biz
> DNS Suffix Search - wellington.uhsinc.biz, uhsinc.biz
>
>
>
> -------------SERVER IPCONFIG-----------------------
> IP - X.X.13.133 (load balancing ip)
> SUB - 255.255.255.0
> IP - X.X.153.4
> SUB - 255.255.254.0
> DG - X.X.152.1
>
> DNS1 - X.X.153.4 (local)
> DNS2 - X.X.24.211 (corp)
> WINS - X.X.13.133
> WINS - X.X.153.4
>
> Thanks

You are using a /23 subnet, however, the load balancing IP you show above is
a /24.

Typo?


Ace

"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

> In news:688FA34B-E0CA-4FAB-BD2A-(E-Mail Removed),
> HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
> I commented on below:
>
> > I added the IP to the WINS section but it did not resolve the issue.
> >
> > --------------CLIENT IPCONFIG---------------------
> > IP - X.X.152.199
> > SUB - 255.255.254.0
> > DG - X.X.152.1
> > DNS - X.X.153.4
> >
> > Primary DNS Suffix - wellington.uhsinc.biz
> > DNS Suffix Search - wellington.uhsinc.biz, uhsinc.biz
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------SERVER IPCONFIG-----------------------
> > IP - X.X.13.133 (load balancing ip)
> > SUB - 255.255.255.0
> > IP - X.X.153.4
> > SUB - 255.255.254.0
> > DG - X.X.152.1
> >
> > DNS1 - X.X.153.4 (local)
> > DNS2 - X.X.24.211 (corp)
> > WINS - X.X.13.133
> > WINS - X.X.153.4
> >
> > Thanks
>
> You are using a /23 subnet, however, the load balancing IP you show above is
> a /24.
>
> Typo?
>
>
> Ace
>
>
>
>
> No, no typo. That is the ip scheme we have from corporate. We go through an edge router (which corp is in charge of) to join the two but, it doesn't route properly, so a pc that is on the 13 subnet can't autenticate to the domain. I had to use load balancing just to get them connected. Please keep the laughter to minimum......

In news:5B5B4739-3BBD-43ED-A257-(E-Mail Removed),
HealthCareGoblin <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which
I commented on below:
>> You are using a /23 subnet, however, the load balancing IP you show
>> above is
>> a /24.
>>
>> Typo?
>>
>>
>> Ace
>
> No, no typo. That is the ip scheme we have from corporate. We go
> through an edge router (which corp is in charge of) to join the two
> but, it doesn't route properly, so a pc that is on the 13 subnet
> can't autenticate to the domain. I had to use load balancing just to
> get them connected. Please keep the laughter to minimum......

Wow (holding back my astonishment). Can I assume the corp DNS listed in the
IP config you provided and your DNS locally all have references to the AD
domain and they are not external DNS servers?

I can see part of the authentication issue can be possibly due to the
subnets being different, DNS infrastructure is not setup correctly, or
routing is not properly setup or failing due to subnet masks or lack of
static routes?

Ace

> > No, no typo. That is the ip scheme we have from corporate. We go
> > through an edge router (which corp is in charge of) to join the two
> > but, it doesn't route properly, so a pc that is on the 13 subnet
> > can't autenticate to the domain. I had to use load balancing just to
> > get them connected. Please keep the laughter to minimum......
>
> Wow (holding back my astonishment). Can I assume the corp DNS listed in the
> IP config you provided and your DNS locally all have references to the AD
> domain and they are not external DNS servers?
>
> I can see part of the authentication issue can be possibly due to the
> subnets being different, DNS infrastructure is not setup correctly, or
> routing is not properly setup or failing due to subnet masks or lack of
> static routes?
>
> Ace
>
> Yes, all the DNS settings are internal, nothing going outsided the domain.The authentication problem is a router issue which we have no control over. But the trouble I am having is on a machine that is on the same ip and subnet as the DC that I am browsing the redirected folders on, so I'm not crossing a router to get to it. And, I only have the the local DNS in the IP properties of the client doing the browsing. This has to be some kind of XP/2003 issue!!!!

Thanks.
>
>
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