How to break up one network to have it connected wireless

Hi there;
I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.

Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and Linux
connection through a router to a cable modem for internet connection.

I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a wireless
connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like follows:

Room 1:
Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers ethernet
outlets.


Room 2:
There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers connecting to
it

What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000 professional?
(if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
b) other device?

I appreciate any help I can get

Thomas
((E-Mail Removed))

Just a thought would a wireless access point in room 2 do the job? Can I
plug it into a hub?
"Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi there;
> I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
>
> Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and Linux
> connection through a router to a cable modem for internet connection.
>
> I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a wireless
> connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like follows:
>
> Room 1:
> Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
ethernet
> outlets.
>
>
> Room 2:
> There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers connecting
to
> it
>
> What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
professional?
> (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> b) other device?
>
> I appreciate any help I can get
>
> Thomas
> ((E-Mail Removed))
>
>

"Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi there;
> I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
>
> Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and Linux
> connection through a router to a cable modem for internet connection.
>
> I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a wireless
> connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like follows:
>
> Room 1:
> Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
ethernet
> outlets.
>
>
> Room 2:
> There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers connecting
to
> it
>
> What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
professional?
> (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> b) other device?
>
> I appreciate any help I can get
>
> Thomas
> ((E-Mail Removed))
>
>

Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.

Thanks for the tip, will return the wireless network card and the a bridge
instead.
"Bradly McConnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0c%ob.54154$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi there;
> > I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
> >
> > Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and Linux
> > connection through a router to a cable modem for internet connection.
> >
> > I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a wireless
> > connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like follows:
> >
> > Room 1:
> > Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> > Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
> ethernet
> > outlets.
> >
> >
> > Room 2:
> > There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers connecting
> to
> > it
> >
> > What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> > a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
> professional?
> > (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> > b) other device?
> >
> > I appreciate any help I can get
> >
> > Thomas
> > ((E-Mail Removed))
> >
> >
>
> Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.
>
>

"Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed):


>
> Room 2:
> There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers
> connecting to it
>

The more secure approach would be to take a cat 5 cable from the UPlink
port on the router to a stand alone switch that prevents network collision.
The hub cannot prevent network collision, because the hub must broadcast to
all ports on the hub and outbound from a machine on a port will collide
with inbound broadcasted to all ports, slowing the network down. A smart
switch knows from what port traffic came from and traffic will not collide.

Wireless is cool but it's a weak point in security. I use wireless too with
limited application.

You may want to look into hardening those NT based O/S(s) from attack.

http://www.uksecurityonline.com/husdg/windows2000.php

Duane

Got myself a Netgear WGE101 Enthernet Bridge. Seems the two devices Netgear
WGE101 and Belkin Wireless Router communicate with each other, but I am
still not able to ping across the wireless network.

The router has the IP 192.168.99.1, one PC connected to the router via
Ethernet 192.168.99.2. Everything works fine here, I am able to get on the
internet etc.

The bridge is configured with the fix IP 192.168.99.99 and connects to a
hub. There is another computer on the hub with 192.168.99.51. This computer
communictes with the bridge no problem and the link light on the bridge is
up as well. Unfortunately I am still not able to the router or the
192.168.99.2.

Any ideas on this?

Thomas
"Bradly McConnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0c%ob.54154$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi there;
> > I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
> >
> > Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and Linux
> > connection through a router to a cable modem for internet connection.
> >
> > I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a wireless
> > connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like follows:
> >
> > Room 1:
> > Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> > Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
> ethernet
> > outlets.
> >
> >
> > Room 2:
> > There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers connecting
> to
> > it
> >
> > What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> > a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
> professional?
> > (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> > b) other device?
> >
> > I appreciate any help I can get
> >
> > Thomas
> > ((E-Mail Removed))
> >
> >
>
> Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.
>
>

Is the router set up to use DHCP? If so, configure the bridge to use DHCP
(might have to use the web config interface). Or else, configure the router
for static IP and manually assign IP addresses to every device, including
the bridge. Your router might let you configure a pool of addresses as
static, in which case you could manually assign the bridge segment's
addresses and leave everything else dynamic.

BTW, does the bridge really connect downstream to a hub, or is it a switch?
A real hub is two-wire half-duplex and suffers collisions. A switch is
collision-free and normally configured for full-duplex. Much better
throughput for not much more money. I'm guessing you really have a switch,
since hubs are hard to find these days.

"Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:x43pb.175039$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Got myself a Netgear WGE101 Enthernet Bridge. Seems the two devices
Netgear
> WGE101 and Belkin Wireless Router communicate with each other, but I am
> still not able to ping across the wireless network.
>
> The router has the IP 192.168.99.1, one PC connected to the router via
> Ethernet 192.168.99.2. Everything works fine here, I am able to get on the
> internet etc.
>
> The bridge is configured with the fix IP 192.168.99.99 and connects to a
> hub. There is another computer on the hub with 192.168.99.51. This
computer
> communictes with the bridge no problem and the link light on the bridge is
> up as well. Unfortunately I am still not able to the router or the
> 192.168.99.2.
>
> Any ideas on this?
>
> Thomas
> "Bradly McConnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:0c%ob.54154$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi there;
> > > I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
> > >
> > > Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and
Linux
> > > connection through a router to a cable modem for internet connection.
> > >
> > > I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a
wireless
> > > connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like follows:
> > >
> > > Room 1:
> > > Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> > > Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
> > ethernet
> > > outlets.
> > >
> > >
> > > Room 2:
> > > There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers
connecting
> > to
> > > it
> > >
> > > What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> > > a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
> > professional?
> > > (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> > > b) other device?
> > >
> > > I appreciate any help I can get
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > > ((E-Mail Removed))
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.
> >
> >
>
>

Does that mean you can't have a mix DHCP and static. The router uses DHCP
and the computer connected to it acts as DHCP client. The rest of the
network has static IPs which are all in the correct number range
192.168.99.2-50 DHCP. 192.168.99.51 Computer connected to a hub (yes it is
an old 4 port hub). 192.168.99.99 Bridge.

So I believe the address ranges are correct. There must be something else I
am missing or the Belkin and Netgear cannot communicate with each other?
"gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:R6fpb.1973$(E-Mail Removed) m...
> Is the router set up to use DHCP? If so, configure the bridge to use DHCP
> (might have to use the web config interface). Or else, configure the
router
> for static IP and manually assign IP addresses to every device, including
> the bridge. Your router might let you configure a pool of addresses as
> static, in which case you could manually assign the bridge segment's
> addresses and leave everything else dynamic.
>
> BTW, does the bridge really connect downstream to a hub, or is it a
switch?
> A real hub is two-wire half-duplex and suffers collisions. A switch is
> collision-free and normally configured for full-duplex. Much better
> throughput for not much more money. I'm guessing you really have a switch,
> since hubs are hard to find these days.
>
> "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:x43pb.175039$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Got myself a Netgear WGE101 Enthernet Bridge. Seems the two devices
> Netgear
> > WGE101 and Belkin Wireless Router communicate with each other, but I am
> > still not able to ping across the wireless network.
> >
> > The router has the IP 192.168.99.1, one PC connected to the router via
> > Ethernet 192.168.99.2. Everything works fine here, I am able to get on
the
> > internet etc.
> >
> > The bridge is configured with the fix IP 192.168.99.99 and connects to a
> > hub. There is another computer on the hub with 192.168.99.51. This
> computer
> > communictes with the bridge no problem and the link light on the bridge
is
> > up as well. Unfortunately I am still not able to the router or the
> > 192.168.99.2.
> >
> > Any ideas on this?
> >
> > Thomas
> > "Bradly McConnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:0c%ob.54154$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >
> > > "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi there;
> > > > I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
> > > >
> > > > Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and
> Linux
> > > > connection through a router to a cable modem for internet
connection.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a
> wireless
> > > > connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like
follows:
> > > >
> > > > Room 1:
> > > > Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> > > > Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
> > > ethernet
> > > > outlets.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Room 2:
> > > > There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers
> connecting
> > > to
> > > > it
> > > >
> > > > What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> > > > a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
> > > professional?
> > > > (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> > > > b) other device?
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate any help I can get
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > > ((E-Mail Removed))
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Yes, you can mix, but you have to at least be able to tell the DHCP server
on the router *not* to distribute the static addresses you are using. My
router lets me do that by configuring it with a pool of static IP addresses
on the same net served by the server, which are associated with particular
MAC addresses. If it gets a DHCP discovery request from one of those MACs it
assigns the corresponding IP. If it doesn't, it will not attempt to assign
it to any other host.

It might be simpler to just use DHCP for everything, or static for
everything.

You should also recheck to be sure the netmask you specified on the bridge
is identical to the netmask you have on the router and on the devices
downstream from the bridge.

"Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Qifpb.176032$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Does that mean you can't have a mix DHCP and static. The router uses DHCP
> and the computer connected to it acts as DHCP client. The rest of the
> network has static IPs which are all in the correct number range
> 192.168.99.2-50 DHCP. 192.168.99.51 Computer connected to a hub (yes it is
> an old 4 port hub). 192.168.99.99 Bridge.
>
> So I believe the address ranges are correct. There must be something else
I
> am missing or the Belkin and Netgear cannot communicate with each other?
> "gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:R6fpb.1973$(E-Mail Removed) m...
> > Is the router set up to use DHCP? If so, configure the bridge to use
DHCP
> > (might have to use the web config interface). Or else, configure the
> router
> > for static IP and manually assign IP addresses to every device,
including
> > the bridge. Your router might let you configure a pool of addresses as
> > static, in which case you could manually assign the bridge segment's
> > addresses and leave everything else dynamic.
> >
> > BTW, does the bridge really connect downstream to a hub, or is it a
> switch?
> > A real hub is two-wire half-duplex and suffers collisions. A switch is
> > collision-free and normally configured for full-duplex. Much better
> > throughput for not much more money. I'm guessing you really have a
switch,
> > since hubs are hard to find these days.
> >
> > "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:x43pb.175039$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Got myself a Netgear WGE101 Enthernet Bridge. Seems the two devices
> > Netgear
> > > WGE101 and Belkin Wireless Router communicate with each other, but I
am
> > > still not able to ping across the wireless network.
> > >
> > > The router has the IP 192.168.99.1, one PC connected to the router via
> > > Ethernet 192.168.99.2. Everything works fine here, I am able to get on
> the
> > > internet etc.
> > >
> > > The bridge is configured with the fix IP 192.168.99.99 and connects to
a
> > > hub. There is another computer on the hub with 192.168.99.51. This
> > computer
> > > communictes with the bridge no problem and the link light on the
bridge
> is
> > > up as well. Unfortunately I am still not able to the router or the
> > > 192.168.99.2.
> > >
> > > Any ideas on this?
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > > "Bradly McConnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:0c%ob.54154$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >
> > > > "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Hi there;
> > > > > I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000 and
> > Linux
> > > > > connection through a router to a cable modem for internet
> connection.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a
> > wireless
> > > > > connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like
> follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > Room 1:
> > > > > Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access point
> > > > > Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the routers
> > > > ethernet
> > > > > outlets.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Room 2:
> > > > > There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers
> > connecting
> > > > to
> > > > > it
> > > > >
> > > > > What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> > > > > a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
> > > > professional?
> > > > > (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> > > > > b) other device?
> > > > >
> > > > > I appreciate any help I can get
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas
> > > > > ((E-Mail Removed))
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Oh, yeah, also be sure that if you have WEP configured anywhere, you have it
configured the same way everywhere.

"gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6jipb.596$(E-Mail Removed) y.com...
> Yes, you can mix, but you have to at least be able to tell the DHCP
server
> on the router *not* to distribute the static addresses you are using. My
> router lets me do that by configuring it with a pool of static IP
addresses
> on the same net served by the server, which are associated with particular
> MAC addresses. If it gets a DHCP discovery request from one of those MACs
it
> assigns the corresponding IP. If it doesn't, it will not attempt to assign
> it to any other host.
>
> It might be simpler to just use DHCP for everything, or static for
> everything.
>
> You should also recheck to be sure the netmask you specified on the bridge
> is identical to the netmask you have on the router and on the devices
> downstream from the bridge.
>
> "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Qifpb.176032$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Does that mean you can't have a mix DHCP and static. The router uses
DHCP
> > and the computer connected to it acts as DHCP client. The rest of the
> > network has static IPs which are all in the correct number range
> > 192.168.99.2-50 DHCP. 192.168.99.51 Computer connected to a hub (yes it
is
> > an old 4 port hub). 192.168.99.99 Bridge.
> >
> > So I believe the address ranges are correct. There must be something
else
> I
> > am missing or the Belkin and Netgear cannot communicate with each other?
> > "gary" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:R6fpb.1973$(E-Mail Removed) m...
> > > Is the router set up to use DHCP? If so, configure the bridge to use
> DHCP
> > > (might have to use the web config interface). Or else, configure the
> > router
> > > for static IP and manually assign IP addresses to every device,
> including
> > > the bridge. Your router might let you configure a pool of addresses as
> > > static, in which case you could manually assign the bridge segment's
> > > addresses and leave everything else dynamic.
> > >
> > > BTW, does the bridge really connect downstream to a hub, or is it a
> > switch?
> > > A real hub is two-wire half-duplex and suffers collisions. A switch is
> > > collision-free and normally configured for full-duplex. Much better
> > > throughput for not much more money. I'm guessing you really have a
> switch,
> > > since hubs are hard to find these days.
> > >
> > > "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:x43pb.175039$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Got myself a Netgear WGE101 Enthernet Bridge. Seems the two devices
> > > Netgear
> > > > WGE101 and Belkin Wireless Router communicate with each other, but I
> am
> > > > still not able to ping across the wireless network.
> > > >
> > > > The router has the IP 192.168.99.1, one PC connected to the router
via
> > > > Ethernet 192.168.99.2. Everything works fine here, I am able to get
on
> > the
> > > > internet etc.
> > > >
> > > > The bridge is configured with the fix IP 192.168.99.99 and connects
to
> a
> > > > hub. There is another computer on the hub with 192.168.99.51. This
> > > computer
> > > > communictes with the bridge no problem and the link light on the
> bridge
> > is
> > > > up as well. Unfortunately I am still not able to the router or the
> > > > 192.168.99.2.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas on this?
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > > "Bradly McConnell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:0c%ob.54154$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Thomas Born" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:JK_ob.174591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Hi there;
> > > > > > I am a newbie to the wireless world and look for following.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Currently I have a network running with 6 computers NT/WIN2000
and
> > > Linux
> > > > > > connection through a router to a cable modem for internet
> > connection.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to move 4 computers to a different room and have a
> > > wireless
> > > > > > connection between the rooms. The new scenario would be like
> > follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Room 1:
> > > > > > Cable Modem connecting to a router acting as wireless access
point
> > > > > > Computer 1 + 2 (Windows 2000) connecting directly into the
routers
> > > > > ethernet
> > > > > > outlets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Room 2:
> > > > > > There will be a four port hub in this room with all computers
> > > connecting
> > > > > to
> > > > > > it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What sort of wireless device do I need for room2?
> > > > > > a) second wireless network card computer running windows 2000
> > > > > professional?
> > > > > > (if this is a solution how do I configure the network?)
> > > > > > b) other device?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I appreciate any help I can get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > > ((E-Mail Removed))
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Try a wireless bridge - I think linksys has a couple models.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>