blueyonder decide who can email you

I've heard that blueyonder are usin a spam filtering system that blocks
emails to their users, and you don't have a say on who they block, and
whether you want this filterin to interfere with your email turned on or
off...

Has anyone informed the Register of this 'We Rule The Intanet' stance,
yet? )

"Gøñzølã" <T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote in message
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> I've heard that blueyonder are usin a spam filtering system that blocks
> emails to their users, and you don't have a say on who they block, and
> whether you want this filterin to interfere with your email turned on or
> off...
>
> Has anyone informed the Register of this 'We Rule The Intanet' stance,
> yet? )
>
Don't know where you got your info from, but looking on the webmail site,
you can define the level of spam filtering, even to the point of switching
it off. You have to option to Delete spam automatically, tag the subject
header, or tag the message header.

"ABC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Gøñzølã" <T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote in message
> news:dkq9nr$8pv$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I've heard that blueyonder are usin a spam filtering system that
blocks
> > emails to their users, and you don't have a say on who they block,
and
> > whether you want this filterin to interfere with your email turned
on or
> > off...
> >
> > Has anyone informed the Register of this 'We Rule The Intanet'
stance,
> > yet? )
> >
> Don't know where you got your info from, but looking on the webmail
site,
> you can define the level of spam filtering, even to the point of
switching
> it off. You have to option to Delete spam automatically, tag the
subject
> header, or tag the message header.

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyond...email_spamhaus

"Gøñzølã" <T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote in message
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>
> "ABC" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:dkqb4m$job$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "Gøñzølã" <T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote in message
>> news:dkq9nr$8pv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I've heard that blueyonder are usin a spam filtering system that
> blocks
>> > emails to their users, and you don't have a say on who they block,
> and
>> > whether you want this filterin to interfere with your email turned
> on or
>> > off...
>> >
>> > Has anyone informed the Register of this 'We Rule The Intanet'
> stance,
>> > yet? )
>> >
>> Don't know where you got your info from, but looking on the webmail
> site,
>> you can define the level of spam filtering, even to the point of
> switching
>> it off. You have to option to Delete spam automatically, tag the
> subject
>> header, or tag the message header.
>
> http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyond...email_spamhaus
>

Ah, I didn't see that on BY website. Sorry.

Gøñzølã wrote:

> http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyond...email_spamhaus

I'm more surprised they've only just got round to it. I would have
though that most of the ISPs in the UK would already be using one, or
more, of the spam blocking lists.

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"Ian Bartholomew" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Gøñzølã wrote:
>
> >
http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyond...email_spamhaus
>
> I'm more surprised they've only just got round to it. I would have
> though that most of the ISPs in the UK would already be using one, or
> more, of the spam blocking lists.

I shud have pointed out that, it's blockin legitimate emails to user's,
complaints from users are bein met with that 'they' need to contact
Spamhaus to get whoever has bin put on the list removed, themselves.

Gøñzølã wrote:

> I shud have pointed out that, it's blockin legitimate emails to user's,
> complaints from users are bein met with that 'they' need to contact
> Spamhaus to get whoever has bin put on the list removed, themselves.

That's the way spam lists work I'm afraid. Whilst there are service
providers who are spam friendly, and who refuse to do anything about the
problem, then legitimate users are going to get caught in the crossfire.

It looks like BY have realised, as have a lot of others, that the spam
problem is now serious enough that steps have to be taken to protect
their network.

This isn't the place for the discussion though - see
news.admin.net-abuse.email

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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:49:48 -0000, "Gøñzølã" <T o p @ S e c r e t . c
o m> wrote:

>
>"Ian Bartholomew" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Gøñzølã wrote:
>>
>> >
>http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyond...email_spamhaus
>>
>> I'm more surprised they've only just got round to it. I would have
>> though that most of the ISPs in the UK would already be using one, or
>> more, of the spam blocking lists.
>
>I shud have pointed out that, it's blockin legitimate emails to user's,
>complaints from users are bein met with that 'they' need to contact
>Spamhaus to get whoever has bin put on the list removed, themselves.
>

Too true. Blocking lists are a very poor way to trap spam. Most spam
does not come from real addresses and a lot of spam senders use other
peoples addresses.

--
Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software

EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.
http://www.easynn.com

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:18:38 UTC, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> >I shud have pointed out that, it's blockin legitimate emails to user's,
> >complaints from users are bein met with that 'they' need to contact
> >Spamhaus to get whoever has bin put on the list removed, themselves.
>
> Too true. Blocking lists are a very poor way to trap spam. Most spam
> does not come from real addresses and a lot of spam senders use other
> peoples addresses.

The Spamhaus list is used to check the actual sending IP address - not a
(probably faked) sending email address. So that last bit really doesn't
apply. I use the Spamhaus lists myself and find them invaluable.
However, for an ISP to use it and not have the option to turn it
off...well, that is a pain.

--
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to give concise answers, express reasoned argument or opinion.
Usually accompanied by silly noises and gestures - incurable, early
euthanasia recommended. ]

Gøñzølã wrote:
> I've heard that blueyonder are usin a spam filtering system that blocks
> emails to their users, and you don't have a say on who they block, and
> whether you want this filterin to interfere with your email turned on or
> off...
>
> Has anyone informed the Register of this 'We Rule The Intanet' stance,
> yet? )
>

It is true, Blueyonder now uses Spamhaus, irregardless of the
spam-settings defined for individual users. BY customers are irate that
their mails from Yahoo are persistantly blocked and there is nothing
they can do about it. Blueyonder's stance is that it is Yahoo's problem
and there is nothing they will do to change the situation.