Blonde Wireless Question #1

I have 2 computers (1 XP 1 ME) each has a Netgear - WG311 - 54Mbps
802.11b/g Wireless PCI Adapter they connect to a Netgear - WGR614 -
Wireless 54 Mbps Cable/DSL Router "G"

Both computers have the same IP number. Is there a way I can change this
without buying a second number from my ISP?

Both have the same IP number?
Then this is your Internet IP number, (their internal IP number will be
different)

To Answer your question
Yes and No
Unless you have a second ADSL Line installed (and another WGR614, or other
ADSL Modem) from your phone company, No.

and Yes If you use a 56k Modem connection from the other computer to give
you a new second IP number...

No more Blonde jokes eh?

Regards
100% Newbie

"100% Blonde" <doh!!!!!!!!!!!@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I have 2 computers (1 XP 1 ME) each has a Netgear - WG311 - 54Mbps
> 802.11b/g Wireless PCI Adapter they connect to a Netgear - WGR614 -
> Wireless 54 Mbps Cable/DSL Router "G"
>
> Both computers have the same IP number. Is there a way I can change this
> without buying a second number from my ISP?

100% Blonde wrote:
> I have 2 computers (1 XP 1 ME) each has a Netgear - WG311 - 54Mbps
> 802.11b/g Wireless PCI Adapter they connect to a Netgear - WGR614 -
> Wireless 54 Mbps Cable/DSL Router "G"
>
> Both computers have the same IP number. Is there a way I can change
> this without buying a second number from my ISP?

Both computers do not have the same IP number. Your router has an external
IP number issued by your ISP, an internal IP number for your LAN. And your
two computers (assuming both are on) each have an internal IP number. Go to
your start button, choose "run" type "cmd" (without quote marks) and type
"ipconfig" -enter- (without quote marks) for both computers. You have an
internal network, and you are connected to an external network. Yours is a
LAN, theirs is the WAN.

If you are asking if you can get a second IP number for the external network
without paying your ISP, well, probably not. That depends on your ISP. You
could probably configure your router to allow your ISP to issue DHCP to both
computers, but they probably want extra money for you to use two of their IP
addresses.

100% Blonde wrote:
> I have 2 computers (1 XP 1 ME) each has a Netgear - WG311 - 54Mbps
> 802.11b/g Wireless PCI Adapter they connect to a Netgear - WGR614 -
> Wireless 54 Mbps Cable/DSL Router "G"
>
> Both computers have the same IP number. Is there a way I can change
> this without buying a second number from my ISP?

Unless your LAN (PC's and Router) are configured for static IP#'s this is
not possible (well it is possible but not desirable), your router will have
the (single) WAN IP from your ISP, but your LAN IP#'s (used by your PC's)
should be of a non-routable IP# Class
http://www.rmitbit.net/bk872/bk872l6/tsld004.htm . Non-routable IP#'s will
not pass through the router.

Unless you run applications on different PC's that require special
permissions (NAT) from the router that clash there should no reason to have
a second IP# from your ISP. In fact the digital package through my ISP
allows me to have 2 different IP#'s yet I only use the one (currently 4 PC's
on my LAN.)

This reply is correct.

It should go on to add: But, you do not want/need a second ISP/IP-ADDR
for the WAN-side.

The whole idea of buying/using a router is so that ALL the PCs beyond the
router
appear to your ISP as though they are a single client, even tho they are
not.
(Another name for what this box is designed to do is 'IP-masquerading' which
says it all.)

This is not illegal or anything. It is the standard way to do business.
So, your ISP
is totally cool with all this and they allow us all to have as many client
PCs/computers
on the INSIDE (the LAN side) of the router. So, don't feel you need to keep
any
'secret' about the existence of your router from your ISP.

This is how a large percentage of us 'broadband' users connect to our ISPs.
And,
we also get the added benefit of having this front-end 'router' also play
the role
of acting as a 'firewall', too. So, relax. You don't want/need to buy
'extra connections'
from the ISP.


"i'm_tired" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> 100% Blonde wrote:
> > I have 2 computers (1 XP 1 ME) each has a Netgear - WG311 - 54Mbps
> > 802.11b/g Wireless PCI Adapter they connect to a Netgear - WGR614 -
> > Wireless 54 Mbps Cable/DSL Router "G"
> >
> > Both computers have the same IP number. Is there a way I can change
> > this without buying a second number from my ISP?
>
> Both computers do not have the same IP number. Your router has an
external
> IP number issued by your ISP, an internal IP number for your LAN. And
your
> two computers (assuming both are on) each have an internal IP number. Go
to
> your start button, choose "run" type "cmd" (without quote marks) and type
> "ipconfig" -enter- (without quote marks) for both computers. You have an
> internal network, and you are connected to an external network. Yours is
a
> LAN, theirs is the WAN.
>
> If you are asking if you can get a second IP number for the external
network
> without paying your ISP, well, probably not. That depends on your ISP.
You
> could probably configure your router to allow your ISP to issue DHCP to
both
> computers, but they probably want extra money for you to use two of their
IP
> addresses.
>
>