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Jon
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      11-14-2008, 06:16 AM
Hello,

Any help on accomplishing the above would be welcomed. I tried knocking
out ports 443-2400 but then WLM seems to get around this by going
through port 80 http-proxy style.

Blocking port 80 is not an option as web access is required, but WML to
be blocked.

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      11-14-2008, 06:19 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Hello,
>
> Any help on accomplishing the above would be welcomed. I tried knocking
> out ports 443-2400 but then WLM seems to get around this by going
> through port 80 http-proxy style.
>
> Blocking port 80 is not an option as web access is required, but WML to
> be blocked.
>
> Thanks


And I must apologise for my spelling of "messenger" in the subject line!
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      11-14-2008, 06:06 PM

"Jon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
>
> Any help on accomplishing the above would be welcomed. I tried knocking
> out ports 443-2400 but then WLM seems to get around this by going
> through port 80 http-proxy style.
>
> Blocking port 80 is not an option as web access is required, but WML to
> be blocked.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Regards
> Jon

I'm sure in one of the advanced settings in the firewall lets you close IM
ports.
It does in my DG834 v3.


 
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      11-14-2008, 06:56 PM
In article <3d-dnUMyctlHt4DUnZ2dnUVZ8h-(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Jon <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Any help on accomplishing the above would be welcomed. I tried knocking
> > out ports 443-2400 but then WLM seems to get around this by going
> > through port 80 http-proxy style.
> >
> > Blocking port 80 is not an option as web access is required, but WML to
> > be blocked.

>
> Doesn't WLM use UPnP to get those ports? Have you disabled UPnP? Have you
> disabled WLM's exception in the Windows Firewall? Maybe that will stop it
> from re-routing through port 80. If you do not want WLM to have internet
> access, why don't you get rid of it, instead of fighting with it?


It's not for me, it's for a client. But thanks for your tips, I will try
them.
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      11-14-2008, 06:56 PM
In article <gfki7m$ba9$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> I'm sure in one of the advanced settings in the firewall lets you close IM
> ports.
> It does in my DG834 v3.


It does, but not by schedule.
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      11-16-2008, 06:51 AM
In article <3d-dnUMyctlHt4DUnZ2dnUVZ8h-(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Doesn't WLM use UPnP to get those ports? Have you disabled UPnP? Have you
> disabled WLM's exception in the Windows Firewall? Maybe that will stop it
> from re-routing through port 80. If you do not want WLM to have internet
> access, why don't you get rid of it, instead of fighting with it?


UPnP was disabled on both the router and the client machine already.
Disabline the windows firewall also had no effect.

Even using the routers "Close IM Ports" facility did not block it.
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      11-16-2008, 06:51 AM
In article <gfki7m$ba9$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> I'm sure in one of the advanced settings in the firewall lets you close IM
> ports.


> It does in my DG834 v3.


It doesn't work.
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      11-16-2008, 08:53 AM
Jon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Any help on accomplishing the above would be welcomed. I tried knocking
> out ports 443-2400 but then WLM seems to get around this by going
> through port 80 http-proxy style.
>
> Blocking port 80 is not an option as web access is required, but WML to
> be blocked.
>
> Thanks



Is you client wanting to stop a person from getting access to Messenger?
For what it is worth, have you considered use of a internet filter?
I use NetNanny (the version of their software they bought from
contentwatch). This can very easy be used to block 'chat' or 'peer-peer'
use. I have been very impressed with it.
 
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      11-16-2008, 10:18 AM
Jon wrote:
> In article <gfki7m$ba9$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> I'm sure in one of the advanced settings in the firewall lets you close IM
>> ports.

>
>> It does in my DG834 v3.

>
> It doesn't work.

You're all going about it the wrong way. You've merely got to block the
IP address MSN Messenger uses to sign in. Open up a command prompt with
only Messenger running on the PC and type netstat -a. It lists 3 colums.
First is the local IP, your machine, second is the remote. In the second
you need to look for two things. Look for a https session <ip
address>:https and look for a msnp session <ip address>:msnp. On mine
its 207.46.113.220:https and 65.54.239.80:msnp . Now I doubt they're the
sole addresses.

Failing that, install Windows Live Family Care on the computer. It's
tied to your Live account so they can't alter it unless they can get
into your live account. It allows you to control what sites they go to
and what time they can use WLM or if at all. Make sure their accounts
are "Standard User" and password yours as the administrator and they're
stuffed. http://www.get.live.com
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      11-16-2008, 10:21 AM
Conor wrote:
> Jon wrote:
>> In article <gfki7m$ba9$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
>>> I'm sure in one of the advanced settings in the firewall lets you
>>> close IM ports.

>>
>>> It does in my DG834 v3.

>>
>> It doesn't work.

> You're all going about it the wrong way. You've merely got to block the
> IP address MSN Messenger uses to sign in. Open up a command prompt with
> only Messenger running on the PC and type netstat -a. It lists 3 colums.
> First is the local IP, your machine, second is the remote. In the second
> you need to look for two things. Look for a https session <ip
> address>:https and look for a msnp session <ip address>:msnp. On mine
> its 207.46.113.220:https and 65.54.239.80:msnp . Now I doubt they're the
> sole addresses.
>

Further to the above, I've just had a look on WHOIS. you'd need to block
207.46.0.0 - 207.46.255.255 and 65.52.0.0 - 65.55.255.255. That'll block
messenger from being able to sign in.

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