Binary News Servers PlusNet, Demon & Pipex, how do they compare?

Thanks for any help. I am trying to switch ISP and wonder if anyone can
give me an idea about retention as well as completion of postings on the
binary news servers with PlusNet, Pipex or Demon.

Thanks
One2Go

On 16 Oct 2003 12:27:52 GMT, One2Go <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Thanks for any help. I am trying to switch ISP and wonder if anyone can
>give me an idea about retention as well as completion of postings on the
>binary news servers with PlusNet, Pipex or Demon.
>
>Thanks
>One2Go
i've used a number of different isp's and have drawn the conclusion that
if you want to download binaries subscribe to a 3rd party newsfeed.

been using giganews for the last 4 years and the completeness &
retention is superb compared to isp's newsservers. Giganews charge
about £7.50 per month for a 10gb download allowance, this can't be
rolled over into the following months though :-(

have a look at www.giganews.com, you can sign up for a free trial there
also.

Have to agree, use a third party . forget isp newsgroups they simply don't
have the retention.
i have used a number of these many time
www.easynews.com (The best can't be beaten)
www.giganews.com
www.eurofeeds.com

"Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 16 Oct 2003 12:27:52 GMT, One2Go <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for any help. I am trying to switch ISP and wonder if anyone can
> >give me an idea about retention as well as completion of postings on the
> >binary news servers with PlusNet, Pipex or Demon.
> >
> >Thanks
> >One2Go
> i've used a number of different isp's and have drawn the conclusion that
> if you want to download binaries subscribe to a 3rd party newsfeed.
>
> been using giganews for the last 4 years and the completeness &
> retention is superb compared to isp's newsservers. Giganews charge
> about £7.50 per month for a 10gb download allowance, this can't be
> rolled over into the following months though :-(
>
> have a look at www.giganews.com, you can sign up for a free trial there
> also.

"ronbol" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Have to agree, use a third party . forget isp newsgroups they simply
> don't have the retention.
> i have used a number of these many time
> www.easynews.com (The best can't be beaten)
> www.giganews.com
> www.eurofeeds.com
>
> "Paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On 16 Oct 2003 12:27:52 GMT, One2Go <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks for any help. I am trying to switch ISP and wonder if anyone
>> >can give me an idea about retention as well as completion of
>> >postings on the binary news servers with PlusNet, Pipex or Demon.
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >One2Go
>> i've used a number of different isp's and have drawn the conclusion
>> that if you want to download binaries subscribe to a 3rd party
>> newsfeed.
>>
>> been using giganews for the last 4 years and the completeness &
>> retention is superb compared to isp's newsservers. Giganews charge
>> about £7.50 per month for a 10gb download allowance, this can't be
>> rolled over into the following months though :-(
>>
>> have a look at www.giganews.com, you can sign up for a free trial
>> there also.
>
>

I totally agree with the idea of a third party News Server. At present I
have tried the EasyNet binary News Server which does a decent job of 3 to 4
days retention and also the completion ratio is not too bad. However for
fills and missed postings I do have for the past 2 years an EasyNews
account. My inquiry was more like will PlusNet, Pipex or Demon be like this
3 to 4 days retention and a reasonable completion ratio. I don't want to be
stuck with few binary news groups and 5% completion ratio.

Thanks
One2Go

On 17 Oct 2003 05:24:06 GMT, One2Go <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>My inquiry was more like will PlusNet, Pipex or Demon be like this 3 to
>4 days retention and a reasonable completion ratio. I don't want to be
>stuck with few binary news groups and 5% completion ratio.

At present there are plenty moaning about the binaries on Claranet, but
you could get a trial account (0845) and see how many groups and what
numbers of posts they have (over the w/e at 1p a minute shouldn't be
too much to spend). FreeUK offers similar (22.99) pricing to the ones
you mention, the same news servers(but with a 10 GB cap each month),
or Clara at 29.99 offers no limit on quantity, but some limit in the
speed per thread. As I say, quite a lot of complaint at the moment,
but perhaps worth a look - also see http://www.claranews.com/

Yes, I know Clara wasn't among the ones mentioned, but was quite
surprised not to see anyone else mentioning it. PlusNet is putting
some extra resources into binaries, but at the moment, I'd be quite
dishonest to suggest they are worth looking at. Peter M.

"Peter Morgan - 0870 432 9631" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message
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> On 17 Oct 2003 05:24:06 GMT, One2Go <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:
>
> >My inquiry was more like will PlusNet, Pipex or Demon be
like this 3 to
> >4 days retention and a reasonable completion ratio. I
don't want to be
> >stuck with few binary news groups and 5% completion
ratio.
>
> At present there are plenty moaning about the binaries on
Claranet, but
> you could get a trial account (0845) and see how many
groups and what
> numbers of posts they have (over the w/e at 1p a minute
shouldn't be
> too much to spend). FreeUK offers similar (22.99) pricing
to the ones
> you mention, the same news servers(but with a 10 GB cap
each month),
> or Clara at 29.99 offers no limit on quantity, but some
limit in the
> speed per thread. As I say, quite a lot of complaint at
the moment,
> but perhaps worth a look - also see
http://www.claranews.com/
>
> Yes, I know Clara wasn't among the ones mentioned, but was
quite
> surprised not to see anyone else mentioning it. PlusNet
is putting
> some extra resources into binaries, but at the moment, I'd
be quite
> dishonest to suggest they are worth looking at. Peter M.

If your priority is binary news groups then Plusnet is not
for you. Plenty of groups but BA completion. Also 3 to 4
days retention *might* be pushing it a bit. Text groups are
fine. In all other respects Plusnet are good so you just
have to decide what your priority is.

If the news service supplied as part of Clara's ISP service
is the same as the news service that can be bought
separately it should be good. If it isn't, why is anyone
paying for it as a separate service.

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What matters in politics is not what happens, but what you
can make people believe has happened. [Janet Daley
27/8/2003]

One2Go <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Thanks for any help. I am trying to switch ISP and wonder if anyone can
> give me an idea about retention as well as completion of postings on the
> binary news servers with PlusNet, Pipex or Demon.

At the moment demon have serious problems.
The xover (header) information does not match up with the posts always.
This will cause most newsreaders to have problems.
If you are using a client designed to connect to multiple servers, and
fill, it might be a reasonable choice, the group list and retention
arn't so bad.
Speed is enough to saturate a 64K link, I can't say about faster.

However, over the past few years, they seem to have adopted the motto
"The customer is always better left in the dark".

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