Best way to expand WLAN for streaming compressed FLAC files?

Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need to
have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment that
has this built in whatever that would be?

TIA,
SD

"SD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need to
> have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
> halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
> SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment that
> has this built in whatever that would be?

the "best" way if you are concerned about bandwidth availability is probably
to use multiple access points and link them using cables of some sort. The
wireless link(s) thruput is the limiting factor, so only use it where you
have to.

So - Cat5 and 100 Base-Tx is probably best, but if youcannot get the cables
around the house then Homeplug or similar would connect the boxes via the
mains. some of the hardware for Homeplug is country dependent (ie. last time
i checked the Netgear stuff is only for 110v, so no use to me in Europe).

if you have some cabling, then linking fixed devices such a s video sender
via cable will also free up wireless capacity.

if you have to use wireless for several links, then thry to use 802.1a for
some or all links - there are more channels available, and since the kit
costs more, fewer users causing interference.
>
> TIA,
> SD
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On 5/1/2006 11:58 AM, stephen wrote:
> "SD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ZVq5g.24$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need to
>> have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
>> halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
>> SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment that
>> has this built in whatever that would be?
>
> the "best" way if you are concerned about bandwidth availability is probably
> to use multiple access points and link them using cables of some sort. The
> wireless link(s) thruput is the limiting factor, so only use it where you
> have to.
>
> So - Cat5 and 100 Base-Tx is probably best, but if youcannot get the cables
> around the house then Homeplug or similar would connect the boxes via the
> mains. some of the hardware for Homeplug is country dependent (ie. last time
> i checked the Netgear stuff is only for 110v, so no use to me in Europe).
>
> if you have some cabling, then linking fixed devices such a s video sender
> via cable will also free up wireless capacity.
>
> if you have to use wireless for several links, then thry to use 802.1a for
> some or all links - there are more channels available, and since the kit
> costs more, fewer users causing interference.
>> TIA,
>> SD

I can not find Homeplug AV equipment. Homeplug 1.0 only goes up to
14Mpbs which is not fast enough (I think) for streaming FLAC files.

SD

"SD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 5/1/2006 11:58 AM, stephen wrote:
> > "SD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:ZVq5g.24$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need
to
> >> have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
> >> halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
> >> SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment
that
> >> has this built in whatever that would be?
> >
> > the "best" way if you are concerned about bandwidth availability is
probably
> > to use multiple access points and link them using cables of some sort.
The
> > wireless link(s) thruput is the limiting factor, so only use it where
you
> > have to.
> >
> > So - Cat5 and 100 Base-Tx is probably best, but if youcannot get the
cables
> > around the house then Homeplug or similar would connect the boxes via
the
> > mains. some of the hardware for Homeplug is country dependent (ie. last
time
> > i checked the Netgear stuff is only for 110v, so no use to me in
Europe).

Netgear 4 port 85 Mbps homeplug unit
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

couple of reviews for homeplug 85m
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/review.asp?pid=633
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/review.asp?pid=637

both used the same house for tests - both were not so good....

i need to stress - this is something i would only use if i cant pull cables,
since every Cat5 gives you 100 Mbps full duplex, and no shared medium where
other conversations may slow you down (unlike wirless or homeplug)
> >
> > if you have some cabling, then linking fixed devices such a s video
sender
> > via cable will also free up wireless capacity.
> >
> > if you have to use wireless for several links, then thry to use 802.1a
for
> > some or all links - there are more channels available, and since the kit
> > costs more, fewer users causing interference.
> >> TIA,
> >> SD
>
> I can not find Homeplug AV equipment. Homeplug 1.0 only goes up to
> 14Mpbs which is not fast enough (I think) for streaming FLAC files.

the newer version claims 85 Mbps - since it uses the wiring as an access
bus, there is going to be some overhead, so expect a fair bit less than that
in practice.

it isnt AV gear - this is networking. The idea is to build a set of network
plumbing, and plug whatever you want into it (using Ethernet which is the
common interface)

just about any modern laptop / desktop / high end games console comes with
Ethernet, and it is available on personal video recorders and similar gear.
>
> SD
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 16:58:07 GMT, in alt.internet.wireless , "stephen"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>So - Cat5 and 100 Base-Tx is probably best, but if youcannot get the cables
>around the house then Homeplug or similar would connect the boxes via the
>mains. some of the hardware for Homeplug is country dependent (ie. last time
>i checked the Netgear stuff is only for 110v, so no use to me in Europe).

Devolo and Netgear's current 85Mb stuff is autoswitching.
--
Mark McIntyre

I'd like to hear a bit more about how you are streaming FLAC.

SD wrote:
> Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need to
> have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
> halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
> SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment that
> has this built in whatever that would be?
>
> TIA,
> SD

FLAC audio files can be streamed by Slim Server to a Squeeze Box (see
slimdevices.com).

On 5/1/2006 5:02 PM, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I'd like to hear a bit more about how you are streaming FLAC.
>
> SD wrote:
>> Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need to
>> have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
>> halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
>> SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment that
>> has this built in whatever that would be?
>>
>> TIA,
>> SD
>

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In <9Fr5g.9$(E-Mail Removed)> on Mon, 01 May 2006 12:38:06 -0500, SD
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I can not find Homeplug AV equipment. Homeplug 1.0 only goes up to
>14Mpbs which is not fast enough (I think) for streaming FLAC files.

Typical FLAC bitrate is 800-1100 Kbps (about 1 Mbps), for which even Homeplug
1.0 (about 5 Mpbs throughput) is sufficient.

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Thanks. I couldn't get the software version working, but I think it is
"pilot error." ;-) I've bee nlooking for something like this.

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> FLAC audio files can be streamed by Slim Server to a Squeeze Box (see
> slimdevices.com).
>
> On 5/1/2006 5:02 PM, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> > I'd like to hear a bit more about how you are streaming FLAC.
> >
> > SD wrote:
> >> Since I need to stream compressed FLAC files in a large house, I need to
> >> have a WLAN system that does not use WDS as I can not accept speed
> >> halving at each WLAN node. So should I use two wrtg54G's (different
> >> SSIDs) at each spot and bridge them? Or should I look at equipment that
> >> has this built in whatever that would be?
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> SD
> >