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Charles
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      12-21-2005, 12:13 PM
Hello

I have a somewhat basic question although I haven't found any post
covering all of it. I am trying to expand the range of my wireless
network (my current Netgear router does not cover all my flat). I would
be interested in your opinion/experience with each of the following
solution, or any other solutions you would think about:

- Additional Access point: in this case it requires a cable between the
router and the new access point, not very convenient

- Wireless repeater: does not require any additional cable but is it
really efficient?

- Netgear "Range Max": I read pretty contradictory reviews about this
technology

- A bigger antenna: not sure it really adds anything

Any thought on these solutions?
I thank you in advance
Charles

 
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      12-21-2005, 02:30 PM

"Charles" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hello
>
> I have a somewhat basic question although I haven't found any post
> covering all of it. I am trying to expand the range of my wireless
> network (my current Netgear router does not cover all my flat). I would
> be interested in your opinion/experience with each of the following
> solution, or any other solutions you would think about:
>
> - Additional Access point: in this case it requires a cable between the
> router and the new access point, not very convenient
>
> - Wireless repeater: does not require any additional cable but is it
> really efficient?
>
> - Netgear "Range Max": I read pretty contradictory reviews about this
> technology
>
> - A bigger antenna: not sure it really adds anything
>
> Any thought on these solutions?
> I thank you in advance
> Charles
>


I think you need to change your wireless router.

Drum


 
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evodawg
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      12-21-2005, 03:10 PM
Charles wrote:

> Hello
>
> I have a somewhat basic question although I haven't found any post
> covering all of it. I am trying to expand the range of my wireless
> network (my current Netgear router does not cover all my flat). I would
> be interested in your opinion/experience with each of the following
> solution, or any other solutions you would think about:
>
> - Additional Access point: in this case it requires a cable between the
> router and the new access point, not very convenient
>
> - Wireless repeater: does not require any additional cable but is it
> really efficient?
>
> - Netgear "Range Max": I read pretty contradictory reviews about this
> technology
>
> - A bigger antenna: not sure it really adds anything
>
> Any thought on these solutions?
> I thank you in advance
> Charles


My Linksys WRT54g wireless router handles my 4000 sq.ft. home just fine.
Although it is in the center of the house which helps. I know you can get
an improved antenna for any router, you might try that. Think before you
invest anymore money into your router you might think about a more
efficient one.
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but you can't make them THINK"
 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      12-21-2005, 03:58 PM
On 21 Dec 2005 05:13:47 -0800, "Charles" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am trying to expand the range of my wireless
>network (my current Netgear router does not cover all my flat). I would
>be interested in your opinion/experience with each of the following
>solution, or any other solutions you would think about:


Any particular Netgear model? Wireless repeaters, range expanders,
and range extenders tend to only function with a limited number of
supported access points and wireless routers. Maker, model, hardware
version, and firmware version would be helpful.

Also, how big is your flat? Unless you have some walls or floors
between your Netgear wireless something and your wireless client, it
should cover most small flats without difficulty. You may be having a
problem with your wireless client and not with your router. The
maker, model, operating system, and wireless card details would be
helpful.

>- Additional Access point: in this case it requires a cable between the
>router and the new access point, not very convenient


Yeah, but it works the best. You can put it on the same SSID but a
different channel, and get seamless roaming. You don't have to have a
wireless connection back to your Netgear router. There's no
compatiblity issues with the Netgear router. It doesn't cut your
maximum speed in half like all store and forward repeaters. If a
better antenna doesn't do the trick, a 2nd access point is what I
would recommend.

Also, you don't have to use CAT5 wire back to the Netgear. The AC
power line can be used:
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/WGXB102.php

>- Wireless repeater: does not require any additional cable but is it
>really efficient?


Each repeater will cut your MAXIMUM speed in half. For example, if
you get a 54MBit/sec connection, your maximum transfer speed is about
25Mbits/sec. If you have a local server, game machine, or NAS
(network attached storage) server, you should be able to benchmark
your wireless connection and actually get download speeds near
25Mbits/sec.

However, insert a wireless repeater into the puzzle and the
25Mbits/sec goes to 12Mbits/sec or less. That will be a problem if
you transfer data between your own machines on your LAN. It will NOT
be a problem if you only care about connections to the internet, which
will be limited by the speed of the broadband connection, typically
1.5Mbits/sec to 6Mbits/sec.

>- Netgear "Range Max": I read pretty contradictory reviews about this
>technology


One line review: In my never humble opinion, all repeaters, range
extenders, range expanders, range stretchers, WDS bridges, and mesh
networks, are univerally awful, suffer from compatibility issues,
deterioriate thruput, cause interference, do not scale well, and are
only suitable for a small number of situations where there are no
alternatives.

>- A bigger antenna: not sure it really adds anything


A bigger antenna will not do anything. A BETTER antenna will do
wonders. However, I can't suggest anything specific without knowning
what you have to work with and something about the topology and
application. Note that the antenna can be changed at both ends of the
wireless link.

Directional reflector antenna. Cheap, easy, and directs your RF in
the direction you need it most. Try this first.
http://www.freeantennas.com
Your subject line asked for the "best way" to expand your network. I
suggest you first fix what you have. If that's not the problem,
improve on the antennas.

Also, look into a WDS bridge. This might require replacing your
existing Netgear router with one that supports WDS. This allows the
added repeater to also act as a wireless bridge. There's no CAT5 or
AC power line network return to the main router. You can plug PC's
into the WDS bridge or connect to it via wireless and get
connectivity.

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Eric
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      12-21-2005, 06:16 PM

"Charles" wrote in message...
> Hello
>
> I have a somewhat basic question although I haven't found any post
> covering all of it. I am trying to expand the range of my wireless
> network (my current Netgear router does not cover all my flat). I would
> be interested in your opinion/experience with each of the following
> solution, or any other solutions you would think about:
>
> - Additional Access point: in this case it requires a cable between the
> router and the new access point, not very convenient
>
> - Wireless repeater: does not require any additional cable but is it
> really efficient?
>
> - Netgear "Range Max": I read pretty contradictory reviews about this
> technology
>
> - A bigger antenna: not sure it really adds anything
>
> Any thought on these solutions?
> I thank you in advance
> Charles



Jeff covered everything, but I'll give you my experience between using
additional AP's versus repeaters.

I do a lot of video work, mainly with my laptops, with the actual files
stored in file servers. Moving around massive files and even working on
them in "real time" isn't practical through repeaters. Like Jeff said,
repeaters cut your pipe in half. To have my entire house covered, I ended up
just wiring up an additional AP. Running CAT5 was inconvienent, but well
worth it in the end.

For my "internet only" pipes, repeaters worked just fine. My cable internet
service is "only" 5 Mbs, anyway. Even with the half-pipe through a
repeater, it still works just fine. Repeaters certainly are very easy to
worth with. Config and forget. The settings remain when you unplug them,
so you can also easily just move them around anywhere. You'll need to do so
some research to ensure that a repeater that you have your eye on will work
with your router/AP though. Many use "WDS" for repeating and may or may not
be compatible.

Pretty much just comes down to what your use your network primarily for:
local WLAN traffic or internet?

Cheers!
-Eric





 
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