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pete
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      09-04-2003, 05:09 AM
Yes, decrease range. Instead of having to turn the wireless portion of my
wireless/wired router off when not using it, is there some kind of
material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae to keep
the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not using it?

Thank you,
Peter


 
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      09-04-2003, 07:02 AM
> material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae to keep
> the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not using it?


Tinfoil?

Then place a metal box over the AP too.

But why not just secure it properly in the first place????

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      09-04-2003, 01:38 PM
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> Yes, decrease range. Instead of having to turn the wireless portion
> of my wireless/wired router off when not using it, is there some kind
> of material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae
> to keep the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not
> using it?


What's the aversion to powering down? If you're willing to go through the
trouble of disabling/crippling the transmitter, why not just shut it off?

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      09-04-2003, 07:43 PM
pete wrote:
> Yes, decrease range. Instead of having to turn the wireless portion
> of my wireless/wired router off when not using it, is there some kind
> of material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae
> to keep the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not
> using it?
>
> Thank you,
> Peter


Range is not an issue if you secure the network. First get WEP working,
128bit encryption. Next disable SSID broadcast at the router (although,
there are those that argue that this is useless). Lastly, from your
router, set up MAC address permissions limiting wireless access to your
NICs to the network. Check your router setup.

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      09-04-2003, 11:48 PM

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> > Yes, decrease range. Instead of having to turn the wireless portion
> > of my wireless/wired router off when not using it, is there some kind
> > of material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae
> > to keep the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not
> > using it?

>
> What's the aversion to powering down? If you're willing to go through the
> trouble of disabling/crippling the transmitter, why not just shut it off?


Hi John, thanks for your help. Being that the router is wired/wireless the
wired portion still needs to function. I kinda thought that simply placing
something over the antenae would be the least time consuming as compared to
logging into the router and disabling the wireless portion.

Peter

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      09-04-2003, 11:56 PM

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> > Yes, decrease range. Instead of having to turn the wireless portion
> > of my wireless/wired router off when not using it, is there some kind
> > of material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae
> > to keep the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not
> > using it?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Peter

>
> Range is not an issue if you secure the network. First get WEP working,
> 128bit encryption. Next disable SSID broadcast at the router (although,
> there are those that argue that this is useless). Lastly, from your
> router, set up MAC address permissions limiting wireless access to your
> NICs to the network. Check your router setup.


Hi Q, thank you for your help. As far as WEP is concerned my friend was kind
enough to show me that he could penetrate the 128bit encryptionin 2 hours on
his new laptop.
SSID takes minutes to sniff out as demonstrated by my friend. And as to the
MAC address permissions, my Network Everywhere NWR04B wired/wireless router
has no options for your idea. It will only filter MAC address's that your
provide, it will not let you to only allow traffic from certain MAC
address's.

Peter



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      09-05-2003, 12:07 AM

>Yes, decrease range. Instead of having to turn the wireless portion of my
>wireless/wired router off when not using it, is there some kind of
>material(practical) I could place over the small(4 inches) antenae to keep
>the bottom dwellers out of my wireless network when I'm not using it?
>
>Thank you,
>Peter
>

Only check the box marked "allow 11Mbps connections".
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      09-05-2003, 01:48 AM
> Hi John, thanks for your help. Being that the router is wired/wireless the
> wired portion still needs to function. I kinda thought that simply placing
> something over the antenae would be the least time consuming as compared

to
> logging into the router and disabling the wireless portion.
>
> Peter


If you place some kind of metal box or can over the antennas, it will reduce
the range, but also may damage the transmitter over time.

The metal will reflect the RF engergy back into the antenna. The
transmitter will see this as high SWR.

All-in-all, it's a good way to shorten the life of the wireless portion of
your router.


Bob


 
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      09-05-2003, 02:53 AM
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> Hi John, thanks for your help. Being that the router is
> wired/wireless the wired portion still needs to function. I kinda
> thought that simply placing something over the antenae would be the
> least time consuming as compared to logging into the router and
> disabling the wireless portion.


Most wireless routers have the ability to disable the wireless function
without affecting the wired function. It usually requires using the
configuration interface which you may be trying to avoid.

Another option may be to remove the antennas.

You may also consider the placement of the router to a location that
physically constrains your signal.

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      09-05-2003, 06:40 AM
> Hi Q, thank you for your help. As far as WEP is concerned my friend was kind
> enough to show me that he could penetrate the 128bit encryptionin 2 hours on
> his new laptop.


Sorry but I'd put that in the realm of panic. I have no doubt that if
your friend were a car thief that he would also show you how he could
get past your door lock, the immobiliser and the next security device.
Then again he might just come along with a truck with a vehichle hoist
and lift your car.

> SSID takes minutes to sniff out as demonstrated by my friend. And as to the


Likewise, do you coat your house with InvisiPaint(tm)? I bet if people
walk down the street they can see your house right?

The basic security advice that you were given would suffice for most
people unless they suffer huge amounts of paranoia.

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