Best setup on NTL

I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless installations on BT ADSL.

What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs (2 x laptop, 1 x
desktop) to NTL?

What equipment does NTL come with?

What equipment do you need to split the connection between 3 machines?

AMO

"NoSpam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless
installations on BT ADSL.
>
> What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs
(2 x laptop, 1 x
> desktop) to NTL?
>
> What equipment does NTL come with?
>
> What equipment do you need to split the connection between
3 machines?
>
> AMO
>
>
you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
many cases.

P.

PJB wrote:
> "NoSpam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4138b196$0$20249$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless installations on
>> BT ADSL.
>>
>> What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs (2 x
>> laptop, 1 x desktop) to NTL?
>>
>> What equipment does NTL come with?
>>
>> What equipment do you need to split the connection between 3
>> machines?
>>
>> AMO
>>
>>
> you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
> a DSL router,

It should/must be a cable router _not_ a DSL router...

>ie, no modem.

A DSL router will (most probably) have a DSL modem inside it (it's not quite
the same kettle of fish as a DSL/Cable router which won't/can't)...

>It will usually have just RJ45's
> on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
> It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
> your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.

Nope it comes as part of the package, & they don't take them back, i.e they
are nominally free (the cost is included in the basic rental price quoted,
even the people who bought their own modem are now paying the same as
everyone else nowadays, one of the reasons I jumped)....

> It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
> ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
> many cases.

If you are going to route/share it forget about the USB option, concentrate
on the ethernet.

To the originally poster.....

Look for DSL/Cable or Cable routers, avoid anything which is specific for
DSL & you won't go far wrong, as for makes/models, you have a wide selection
some will recomend Linksys other Netgear (they've never let me down yet but
i'm busy abusing a DG834g at the moment so things may change) & there are a
few other makes/solutions as well..

To PJB sorry to be so pedantic but you were wrong on a few points & very
fuzzy on others so felt the need to but in...

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:26:23 +0100, PJB wrote:

> "NoSpam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4138b196$0$20249$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless
> installations on BT ADSL.
>>
>> What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's PCs
> (2 x laptop, 1 x
>> desktop) to NTL?
>>
>> What equipment does NTL come with?
>>
>> What equipment do you need to split the connection between
> 3 machines?
>>
>> AMO
>>
>>
> you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
> a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
> on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
> It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
> your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
> It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
> ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
> many cases.
>
> P.

I guess you mean it should be a broadband cable router *not* DSL as that
won't work with NTL (or Telewest for that matter) and the connection will
always be via Ethernet. AFAIK, there are no cable routers with USB
connections.

Regards

Bill

"Kráftéé" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> PJB wrote:
> > "NoSpam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >
news:4138b196$0$20249$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I currently have only ever setup wired/wireless
installations on
> >> BT ADSL.
> >>
> >> What's the best equipment to get to connect 3 user's
PCs (2 x
> >> laptop, 1 x desktop) to NTL?
> >>
> >> What equipment does NTL come with?
> >>
> >> What equipment do you need to split the connection
between 3
> >> machines?
> >>
> >> AMO
> >>
> >>
> > you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it
must be
> > a DSL router,
>
> It should/must be a cable router _not_ a DSL router...

actually, I think the correct term is cable/DSL router, as
mine is called ;-) but that's being pedantic ;-)

>
> >ie, no modem.

we agree on that bit at least ;-)

P.

"Graham" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> > >
> > you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it
must be
> > a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just
RJ45's
> > on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
> > It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending
on
> > your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you
rent.
> > It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc
via
> > ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option
in
> > many cases.
> >
> > P.
>
>
>
> A DSL router is exactly what the OP does NOT want.
> DSL=Digital Exchange Line, which in the UK means its ADSL
variant

Ok, let's be more specific, he needs a Cable/DSL router, ok?

P.

Graham wrote:
>> you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
>> a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
>> on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
>> It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
>> your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
>> It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
>> ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
>> many cases.
>>
> A DSL router is exactly what the OP does NOT want.
> DSL=Digital Exchange Line, which in the UK means its ADSL variant

DSL = Digital Subscriber Line (or Down Stage Left!), otherwise it would be
DEL

Dom

> >
> you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
> a DSL router, ie, no modem. It will usually have just RJ45's
> on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.
> It can be wired, or wireless, it's upto you. Depending on
> your area, NTL will usually supply a modem, which you rent.
> It has the capability of connecting to your router or pc via
> ethernet or USB, though ethernet is the preferred option in
> many cases.
>
> P.



A DSL router is exactly what the OP does NOT want.
DSL=Digital Exchange Line, which in the UK means its ADSL variant

Graham.

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:26:23 +0100, "PJB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"NoSpam" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> What equipment do you need to split the connection between
>3 machines?
>>
>you would use a router, as you do with ADSL, only it must be
>a DSL router, ie, no modem.

You mean a cable router. A DSL router would be one designed DSL, not
cable...

I was quite horrified to hear some idiot salesperson in PC World in
London burbling about "DSL Routers" being what cable users needed.
Crimminy !

> It will usually have just RJ45's
>on the back, one marked WAN, the others marked LAN.

This is correct, but its not a DSL router, its a cable-ready router.

"PJB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> actually, I think the correct term is cable/DSL router, as
> mine is called ;-) but that's being pedantic ;-)
> >
> > >ie, no modem.
>
> we agree on that bit at least ;-)
>
> P.


Thanx to all that replied. Just one more question - any particular router
recommendations? Looking for a reasonably cheap one.

AMO