Best place to situate micro-filters

Hi,

I wonder if anyone could give advice on where to place my microfilters.

At the present time, my phone line comes into the house through the front,
with a single phone socket on the wall. Out of this I have an extension
cable which serves my internet connection to the study, which is upstairs.
This extension also houses the Sky Digital TV connection (which I can
remove).

When I receive my free ADSL modem, I will have to place it upstairs, at the
end of the extension cable.

Where would you advise that I place my microfilters? I assume that one is
needed upstairs (at the end of the extension cable) - this will split the
signal here. Do I then still need one on the socket downstairs? Even though
there is no ADSL modem being connected there?

Of course, this will all change when I get my wireless model/router/switch
combo box, but this isn't until March. I will then have the combo box
downstairs with a cat 5 cable running up to the study.

Your advice, as always is welcome and appreciated,

Best wishes

Gareth Edmondson


This is the closest thing to crazy,
I have ever been.

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Gareth Edmondson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wonder if anyone could give advice on where to place my
> microfilters.
>
> At the present time, my phone line comes into the house through the
> front, with a single phone socket on the wall. Out of this I have an
> extension cable which serves my internet connection to the study,
> which is upstairs. This extension also houses the Sky Digital TV
> connection (which I can remove).
>
> When I receive my free ADSL modem, I will have to place it upstairs,
> at the end of the extension cable.
>
> Where would you advise that I place my microfilters? I assume that
> one is needed upstairs (at the end of the extension cable) - this
> will split the signal here. Do I then still need one on the socket
> downstairs? Even though there is no ADSL modem being connected there?
>
> Of course, this will all change when I get my wireless
> model/router/switch combo box, but this isn't until March. I will
> then have the combo box downstairs with a cat 5 cable running up to
> the study.
>
> Your advice, as always is welcome and appreciated,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Gareth Edmondson
>
>
> This is the closest thing to crazy,
> I have ever been.


It depends what you are going to plug into the sockets. You need a
micro-filter whenever you plug an analog device (phone, fax. etc.) into the
line. The ADSL modem doesn't need a filter per se - but using a filter may
be the easiest way of providing the correct socket for it.
--
Cheers,
Tim
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On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:08:42 -0000, "Gareth Edmondson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I wonder if anyone could give advice on where to place my microfilters.
>
At each telephone outlet which is serving a telephone and/or modem.

>At the present time, my phone line comes into the house through the front,
>with a single phone socket on the wall. Out of this I have an extension
>cable which serves my internet connection to the study, which is upstairs.
>This extension also houses the Sky Digital TV connection (which I can
>remove).
>
You could get a NTE (NTE being BT's master socket), microfilter, fits
in place of the lower portion of newer style NTE's and filters all
existing cabling. Obviously if you want to put your modem on an
extension you can't do this but if you are moving your modem to the
master socket this could be a job for later, it saves having a
micfrofilter dangling out of all your phone sockets.

>When I receive my free ADSL modem, I will have to place it upstairs, at the
>end of the extension cable.
>
>Where would you advise that I place my microfilters? I assume that one is
>needed upstairs (at the end of the extension cable) - this will split the
>signal here. Do I then still need one on the socket downstairs? Even though
>there is no ADSL modem being connected there?
>
>Of course, this will all change when I get my wireless model/router/switch
>combo box, but this isn't until March. I will then have the combo box
>downstairs with a cat 5 cable running up to the study.
>
If you're having a wireless modem why would you want to run a cat5
cable upstairs?




SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

> It depends what you are going to plug into the sockets. You need a
> micro-filter whenever you plug an analog device (phone, fax. etc.) into
the
> line. The ADSL modem doesn't need a filter per se - but using a filter may
> be the easiest way of providing the correct socket for it.
> --
> Cheers,
> Tim

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the advice. In the upstairs room, I will not be plugging anything
else into the extension socket - only the ADSL modem, which I assume will
come with a normal phone adapter.

I will probably place one filter at the beginning of the line and one at the
end.

Cheers for the advice,

Gareth

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Gareth Edmondson <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I will not be plugging
> anything else into the extension socket - only the ADSL modem, which
> I assume will come with a normal phone adapter.
>


Don't bank on it! I'm not yet on BB myself, so I'm not certain - but my
belief is that ADSL modems are supplied with a cable with an RJ11 plug on
the end - which is intended to plug either into a special ADSL faceplate on
the master socket, or into the ADSL socket on a micro-filter - but *not*
into an ordinary phone socket.
--
Cheers,
Tim
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In news:JYEMb.1069$(E-Mail Removed),
Gareth Edmondson <(E-Mail Removed)> muttered:

> I wonder if anyone could give advice on where to place my
> microfilters.

To put it simply, you need an uninterrupted line from your ADSL modem all
the way down the line to where it enters your house. So, for each telephone
you add to the line, you need to put a filter inbetween the line and
telephone.

Steve

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:36:22 -0000, "Gareth Edmondson"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I will probably place one filter at the beginning of the line and one at the
>end.

no. You need a microfilter on every telephone, fax machine, analogue
modem or sky box. You don't need one for the ADSL modem though the
ADSL port is pass through and it may be a convenient RJ11-BT adaptor.

If you were to put a microfilter on the incoming socket and use the
existing extension lead from the phone (BT socket) output of the
microfilter then your adsl would not work.

Phil

In article <GmFMb.1099$(E-Mail Removed)>, Gareth Edmondson
wrote:
> I will probably place one filter at the beginning of the line and one at the
> end.

That's overkill. You only need to filter the feeds that go to standard analog
devices such as phones, fax machines and dial-up modems, and you only need to
filter them once. The ADSL device doesn't need filtering. Filters are commonly
made in the form af 2-way adaptors with a different socket (RJ11) for the ADSL
modem, but this is just for convenience. If you have the appropriate cable or
adaptor, you could plug it straight into an unfiltered wall socket and it
would work just fine.

Rod.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Lurch wrote:
> >I wonder if anyone could give advice on where to place my microfilters.
> >
> At each telephone outlet which is serving a telephone and/or modem.

OR at the beginning of an extension system that is feeding several phones.

> If you're having a wireless modem why would you want to run a cat5
> cable upstairs?

You haven't actually tried to use wireless ethernet yet, have you? :-)

Rod.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:47:33 -0000, "Twinkletoes" <.> wrote:

>In news:JYEMb.1069$(E-Mail Removed),
>Gareth Edmondson <(E-Mail Removed)> muttered:
>
>> I wonder if anyone could give advice on where to place my
>> microfilters.
>
>To put it simply, you need an uninterrupted line from your ADSL modem all
>the way down the line to where it enters your house. So, for each telephone
>you add to the line, you need to put a filter inbetween the line and
>telephone.
>
>Steve
>

Sadly you have put it too simply and perhaps inadvertently missed the
obvious. A filter for EACH analogue devive is not necessary, you can
use two way adapters from the ouput side of a filter or, as was stated
in a previous posting, at the beginning of an extension system that is
feeding several phones, faxes, sky, etc. [Remember that your REN
total should not exceed 4 in any case].

Normally ADSL modems are supplied with a 'telephone' lead that has a
plug that is different from an analogue phone so you use a filter as
an adaptor conversion. You could dispense with this arrangement by
nipping down to your local computer store and picking up a lead that
would connect direcetly to your ADSL modem and the wall socket.

However most computer users would have a phone by their PC, so the
filter is the idea component to use, after all with ADSL you can can
connect to the Internet and make telephone calls. When seeking
telephone advice from a frield or a Help Desk it is usually best to be
beside your PC.

David Bradley