Best 'phone extension lead.

I've heard mention before that of the myriad of DIY telephone extension
leads on the market that some types are better than others for use with
broadband. Could someone please advise which would be the best to use for
the least degradation of the BB signal.
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"Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've heard mention before that of the myriad of DIY telephone extension
> leads on the market that some types are better than others for use with
> broadband. Could someone please advise which would be the best to use
> for the least degradation of the BB signal.
> --

Round ones are supposed to be better than flat ones.
But extensions are not recommended for BB, the router should go next to
Master Socket then BB taken by Wireless or Ethernet cable to computer.
Regards
David

On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:30:33 -0000, Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook wrote:

> I've heard mention before that of the myriad of DIY telephone extension
> leads on the market that some types are better than others for use with
> broadband. Could someone please advise which would be the best to use for
> the least degradation of the BB signal.

But your broadband speed is *very* fast.

Why do you need it any faster ?

;-)
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David wrote:
> "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I've heard mention before that of the myriad of DIY telephone extension
>> leads on the market that some types are better than others for use with
>> broadband. Could someone please advise which would be the best to use
>> for the least degradation of the BB signal.
>> --
>
> Round ones are supposed to be better than flat ones.
> But extensions are not recommended for BB, the router should go next to
> Master Socket then BB taken by Wireless or Ethernet cable to computer.
> Regards
> David

I was of that opinion too David, but I was reading some faqs in the Maplin
catalogue concerning their extension kits (
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...o=882#features ) and they answer
one query like this:

"Q- If i extend my bt socket by 20m using 20m kit and than plug the
broadband will it affect the speed ? - Asad
Answer- No it should not. "

I cannot readily get a power lead close enough to my main 'phone socket, so
I am left with a choice of either:

1. A single telephone extension 3m to the router, then microfilter with
telephone base unit and short ADSL lead to router from it, or

2. A microfilter plugged into main 'phone socket, thenfrrom it a telephone
extension lead to feed the telephone base unit and a long ADSL lead to
supply the router. Not insurmountable but a bit messy.

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
> I cannot readily get a power lead close enough to my main 'phone
> socket, so I am left with a choice of either:
>
> 1. A single telephone extension 3m to the router, then microfilter
> with telephone base unit and short ADSL lead to router from it, or
>
> 2. A microfilter plugged into main 'phone socket, thenfrrom it a
> telephone extension lead to feed the telephone base unit and a long
> ADSL lead to supply the router. Not insurmountable but a bit messy.

Don't do either of those things! Don't muck about with plug-in filters.
Replace the faceplate on the master socket with a filtered faceplate from
the likes of Solwise or Clarity. Run a dedicated unfiltered extension in
twisted-pair cable from the unfiltered connections on the back of the new
faceplate to the place where you want the ADSL router, and terminate it with
an RJ11 socket. Connect any other extension wiring - for analog phones
etc. - to the filtered connections on the back of the new faceplate (or
transfer from the old faceplate to the new one if there is some already).
That way, you'll separate the voice stuff from the digital stuff by a filter
at the point of entry - which is the best way of preserving your ADSL speed.
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Roger Mills wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>> I cannot readily get a power lead close enough to my main 'phone
>> socket, so I am left with a choice of either:
>>
>> 1. A single telephone extension 3m to the router, then microfilter
>> with telephone base unit and short ADSL lead to router from it, or
>>
>> 2. A microfilter plugged into main 'phone socket, thenfrrom it a
>> telephone extension lead to feed the telephone base unit and a long
>> ADSL lead to supply the router. Not insurmountable but a bit messy.
>
> Don't do either of those things! Don't muck about with plug-in filters.
> Replace the faceplate on the master socket with a filtered faceplate from
> the likes of Solwise or Clarity. Run a dedicated unfiltered extension in
> twisted-pair cable from the unfiltered connections on the back of the new
> faceplate to the place where you want the ADSL router, and terminate it
> with an RJ11 socket. Connect any other extension wiring - for analog
> phones etc. - to the filtered connections on the back of the new faceplate
> (or
> transfer from the old faceplate to the new one if there is some already).
> That way, you'll separate the voice stuff from the digital stuff by a
> filter at the point of entry - which is the best way of preserving your
> ADSL speed.

Thanks Roger, you mean one like this?
http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php
That still leaves me a bit like my option 2, still a bit messy.
See my answer to HJ though. Why is it I was able to get such good
performance on my earlier Heath Robinson set up until mid November I wonder?
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Peter Crosland wrote:
> "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> David wrote:
>>> "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I've heard mention before that of the myriad of DIY telephone extension
>>>> leads on the market that some types are better than others for use with
>>>> broadband. Could someone please advise which would be the best to use
>>>> for the least degradation of the BB signal.
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Round ones are supposed to be better than flat ones.
>>> But extensions are not recommended for BB, the router should go next to
>>> Master Socket then BB taken by Wireless or Ethernet cable to computer.
>>> Regards
>>> David
>>
>> I was of that opinion too David, but I was reading some faqs in the
>> Maplin catalogue concerning their extension kits (
>> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...o=882#features ) and they
>> answer one query like this:
>>
>> "Q- If i extend my bt socket by 20m using 20m kit and than plug the
>> broadband will it affect the speed ? - Asad
>> Answer- No it should not. "
>>
>> I cannot readily get a power lead close enough to my main 'phone socket,
>> so I am left with a choice of either:
>
> Don't believe the Maplin comments. Any flexible extension will be much
> poorer that could quality, properly installed CW1308. Running a flexible
> mains cable along the skirting attached by cable clips to the router
> really is not that difficult to do. Considering the seemingly never
> ending problems you have with your line this would seem small price to
> pay to eliminate a possible problem. Even if you paid someone to do it
> the cost would not be too high.
>
> Peter Crosland

So that combined with a http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php would
be best then?
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Peter Crosland wrote:
> "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> David wrote:
>>> "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>>> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I've heard mention before that of the myriad of DIY telephone extension
>>>> leads on the market that some types are better than others for use with
>>>> broadband. Could someone please advise which would be the best to use
>>>> for the least degradation of the BB signal.
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Round ones are supposed to be better than flat ones.
>>> But extensions are not recommended for BB, the router should go next to
>>> Master Socket then BB taken by Wireless or Ethernet cable to computer.
>>> Regards
>>> David
>>
>> I was of that opinion too David, but I was reading some faqs in the
>> Maplin catalogue concerning their extension kits (
>> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...o=882#features ) and they
>> answer one query like this:
>>
>> "Q- If i extend my bt socket by 20m using 20m kit and than plug the
>> broadband will it affect the speed ? - Asad
>> Answer- No it should not. "
>>
>> I cannot readily get a power lead close enough to my main 'phone socket,
>> so I am left with a choice of either:
>
> Don't believe the Maplin comments. Any flexible extension will be much
> poorer that could quality, properly installed CW1308. Running a flexible
> mains cable along the skirting attached by cable clips to the router
> really is not that difficult to do. Considering the seemingly never
> ending problems you have with your line this would seem small price to
> pay to eliminate a possible problem. Even if you paid someone to do it
> the cost would not be too high.
>
> Peter Crosland

I don't suppose you've got an unused W98 SE upgrade CD you don't want or any
other cheap way that I can preserve the use of my W98 compatible software on
my archive computer and get it working on wifi?
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"Flyi?g ?u? 2?10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Trouble is with this set up I have lost the facility of having my older
> networked computer on line or on my network as in it's current condition
> (Windows 98) it apparently cannot be converted to wifi. I use this
> computer for lots of old archived data, and a few programs that are don't
> work with XP. Added to that, I cannot easily use that computer to operate
> the printer. I'm hoping to upgrade to W 98SE in which case it should be
> able to be wifi'd and therefore networked again.

You can get a wireless bridge - plug it into the ethernet socket of the PC
and it will interface to wifi. No need to install any software on the PC -
indeed the PC doesn't know it exists. These are sometimes also called a
'game' adaptor as they're sold for plugging into old X-boxes etc that have
ethernet but not wifi.

Theo

Theo Markettos wrote:
> "Flyi?g ?u? 2?10 + on netbook" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Trouble is with this set up I have lost the facility of having my older
>> networked computer on line or on my network as in it's current condition
>> (Windows 98) it apparently cannot be converted to wifi. I use this
>> computer for lots of old archived data, and a few programs that are
>> don't work with XP. Added to that, I cannot easily use that computer
>> to operate the printer. I'm hoping to upgrade to W 98SE in which case
>> it should be able to be wifi'd and therefore networked again.
>
> You can get a wireless bridge - plug it into the ethernet socket of the PC
> and it will interface to wifi. No need to install any software on the PC
> - indeed the PC doesn't know it exists. These are sometimes also called a
> 'game' adaptor as they're sold for plugging into old X-boxes etc that have
> ethernet but not wifi.
>
> Theo

Thanks for that Theo. I'll look into it. I've never heard of them. So
they will be compatible with W98 then?
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