best 802.11g card?

I'm looking for a pcmcia card 802.11g with external antenna connector

What card has the best range and allows you to connect externa
antenna

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I have not seen an external Antenna on a PCMCIA card since Proxim was making
thier Open Air Rangelan2 cards. I have never seen one made for 802.11x....
Besides those created by end users......


"Y.K." <Y.K..1jnksy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote in message
news:Y.K..1jnksy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com...
>
> I'm looking for a pcmcia card 802.11g with external antenna connector.
>
> What card has the best range and allows you to connect external
> antenna?
>
>
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>

> "Y.K." <Y.K..1jnksy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote in message
> news:Y.K..1jnksy@WiFi-Forum_dot_com...
>
> I'm looking for a pcmcia card 802.11g with external antenna
> connector.
> What card has the best range and allows you to connect external
> antenna?
>
>
> --
> Y.K.
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Check out the SMC cards.. The cards not only have external antenna
connectors, but are also "High Power" IE 300 mw instead of 50. Much greater
range (about 1155 FT) without the external antenna, but can use one if
needed. (the end of the card is actually the antenna, it pulls off and the
cable plugs onto the connectors (that can be used for an external antenna,
or replace the end of the card one when mobile)


At
http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...cid=31&pid=573
SMC2835W
EZ ConnectT g Wireless Cardbus Adapter

2.4GHz 54 Mbps Wireless Cardbus Adapter


Overview
The EZ ConnectT g 54Mbps Wireless CardBus Adapter (SMC2835W) supports the
latest and fastest standards for wireless connectivity to your notebook.
Based on the IEEE 802.11g standard, the new EZ Connect g Wireless CardBus
Adapter offers data rates up to 54 Mbps, 5 times faster than the widely used
802.11b devices, while maintaining 100% compatibility with existing 802.11b
wireless networks. This adapter supports the highest level of security,
supporting both 64/128-bit WEP encryption and the new Wi-Fi Protected Access
(WPA). With the SMC EZ Installation Wizard, users can be up and running
within minutes. The SMC proprietary profile management software provides
intelligence to manage multiple locations with ease, saving the various
wireless settings for each location. Operating up to 1,155 feet, the EZ
ConnectT g 54 Mbps Wireless CardBus Adapter provides the best of both
worlds, maximum mobility with high performance, while still maintaining
compatibility with existing networks.

What type of antenna connector ?
Antenna/Cap just pulls off, no tinkering ?

fwiw - www.cpx.com has G card with mc card antenna jack. PrismGT/Nitro
I'm using it with a blade antenna. Works well.

"Peter Pan" > wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Check out the SMC cards.. The cards not only have external antenna
> connectors, but are also "High Power" IE 300 mw instead of 50. Much
greater
> range (about 1155 FT) without the external antenna, but can use one if
> needed. (the end of the card is actually the antenna, it pulls off and the
> cable plugs onto the connectors (that can be used for an external antenna,
> or replace the end of the card one when mobile)
>
>
> At
>
http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...cid=31&pid=573
> SMC2835W
> EZ ConnectT g Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>
> 2.4GHz 54 Mbps Wireless Cardbus Adapter

They have little adapter cables (about 6" long).. One end plugs into the end
of the card where the card antenna attaches, and has a mini uhf connector on
the other end and screws onto all their antennas etc. The specs/details are
at that same website, but look under antennas (they sell several dozen
different kinds). Real handy for me in the RV.. I have an antenna on the
roof, and when in the RV, I take off the card antenna and plug in the
external with the jack on the cable already, when going out, I just reverse
that.

the Whole site has a bunch of neat stuff on it (www.smc.com) but I pasted a
link directly to the card you asked about, rather than a generic web site
address.

For a detail picture of the adapter cables... see the website (with a
picture at)
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SMCHMANT-6

Out of curiosity, where do you live? (generally, not specifically) If in the
US, I can point to a few websites that not only sell it, but ship to your
door (actually I use www.outpost.com it's Fry's electronics website, and
they do sales and shipping, but only within the US).. If you are outside of
the US, there is a distributor finder (on the smc website) to find worldwide
distributors.

Want to see a more detailed pic/description of an antenna I rcommend?
(Included with 2 universal antenna connector cables)
http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...id=33&pid=1299

for a little more (about $5 more) they also make a high power card that does
both a and b/g (you only asked about G)

SMC2536W-AG
EliteConnectT Universal Wireless Cardbus Adapter

2.4GHz/5Ghz 802.11a/g High Power Wireless Cardbus Adapter





bumtracks wrote:
> What type of antenna connector ?
> Antenna/Cap just pulls off, no tinkering ?
>
> fwiw - www.cpx.com has G card with mc card antenna jack.
> PrismGT/Nitro I'm using it with a blade antenna. Works well.
>
> "Peter Pan" > wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> Check out the SMC cards.. The cards not only have external antenna
>> connectors, but are also "High Power" IE 300 mw instead of 50. Much
>> greater range (about 1155 FT) without the external antenna, but can
>> use one if needed. (the end of the card is actually the antenna, it
>> pulls off and the cable plugs onto the connectors (that can be used
>> for an external antenna, or replace the end of the card one when
>> mobile)
>>
>>
>> At
>>
> http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...cid=31&pid=573
>> SMC2835W
>> EZ ConnectT g Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>>
>> 2.4GHz 54 Mbps Wireless Cardbus Adapter

Please ignore this advice. It is both obsolete and wrong. I bought that
card without fact checking (shame on me) the last time Peter recommended
it. The card no longer has a removable antenna and now uses conventional
dual diversity patch antennae. Here is a photo of the guts of the card:

http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/f...835W_front.jpg

No removable antenna and no external antenna jack.

I wrote to SMC to ask about this. They replied that they do not now make
a CardBus card with an external jack.

The other problem with this card is that the driver is very poor. Even
with the laptop sitting 6" from my AP I could only achieve about 2mB/sec
and the CPU load on this 2 gig laptop was around 10%. The Orinoco in the
same slot does better than 12 and the Netgear 108mb card does almost 40.
Unfortunately, no external antenna jack.

Over the last month I've bought, tested and either kept or returned about
13 cards now. I still like the Netgear the best where an external antenna
isn't necessary and the Orinoco Gold where one is. The little LinkSys USB
client is also a good unit, though it won't accept an external antenna
either. The built-in whip does a decent job.

I also bought that antenna Peter recommends. It's pretty decent - but I
have to use it with my Orinoco Gold card with a pigtail adapter.

John

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:15:30 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>They have little adapter cables (about 6" long).. One end plugs into the end
>of the card where the card antenna attaches, and has a mini uhf connector on
>the other end and screws onto all their antennas etc. The specs/details are
>at that same website, but look under antennas (they sell several dozen
>different kinds). Real handy for me in the RV.. I have an antenna on the
>roof, and when in the RV, I take off the card antenna and plug in the
>external with the jack on the cable already, when going out, I just reverse
>that.
>
>the Whole site has a bunch of neat stuff on it (www.smc.com) but I pasted a
>link directly to the card you asked about, rather than a generic web site
>address.
>
>For a detail picture of the adapter cables... see the website (with a
>picture at)
>http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SMCHMANT-6
>
>Out of curiosity, where do you live? (generally, not specifically) If in the
>US, I can point to a few websites that not only sell it, but ship to your
>door (actually I use www.outpost.com it's Fry's electronics website, and
>they do sales and shipping, but only within the US).. If you are outside of
>the US, there is a distributor finder (on the smc website) to find worldwide
>distributors.
>
>Want to see a more detailed pic/description of an antenna I rcommend?
>(Included with 2 universal antenna connector cables)
>http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...id=33&pid=1299
>
>for a little more (about $5 more) they also make a high power card that does
>both a and b/g (you only asked about G)
>
>SMC2536W-AG
>EliteConnectT Universal Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>
>2.4GHz/5Ghz 802.11a/g High Power Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>
>
>
>
>
>bumtracks wrote:
>> What type of antenna connector ?
>> Antenna/Cap just pulls off, no tinkering ?
>>
>> fwiw - www.cpx.com has G card with mc card antenna jack.
>> PrismGT/Nitro I'm using it with a blade antenna. Works well.
>>
>> "Peter Pan" > wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> Check out the SMC cards.. The cards not only have external antenna
>>> connectors, but are also "High Power" IE 300 mw instead of 50. Much
>>> greater range (about 1155 FT) without the external antenna, but can
>>> use one if needed. (the end of the card is actually the antenna, it
>>> pulls off and the cable plugs onto the connectors (that can be used
>>> for an external antenna, or replace the end of the card one when
>>> mobile)
>>>
>>>
>>> At
>>>
>> http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...cid=31&pid=573
>>> SMC2835W
>>> EZ ConnectT g Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>>>
>>> 2.4GHz 54 Mbps Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>

---
John De Armond
(E-Mail Removed)
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/
Cleveland, Occupied TN

thanks for SMC g card info,,, I had that feeling - no antenna , standard
power.
as nowhere mentions an antenna jack and spec is standard 15db & recently
compex came out with a new card to replace their card with external jack.
Good thing I stocked up on one.
SMC and CPX appear to be the same basic 15db prismGT and probably exact
except for network connection UI yea that driver package is sneaky if
you're not familiar with PrismGT



"Neon John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Please ignore this advice. It is both obsolete and wrong. I bought that
> card without fact checking (shame on me) the last time Peter recommended
> it. The card no longer has a removable antenna and now uses conventional
> dual diversity patch antennae. Here is a photo of the guts of the card:
>
> http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/f...835W_front.jpg
>
> No removable antenna and no external antenna jack.
>
> I wrote to SMC to ask about this. They replied that they do not now make
> a CardBus card with an external jack.
>
> The other problem with this card is that the driver is very poor. Even
> with the laptop sitting 6" from my AP I could only achieve about 2mB/sec
> and the CPU load on this 2 gig laptop was around 10%. The Orinoco in the
> same slot does better than 12 and the Netgear 108mb card does almost 40.
> Unfortunately, no external antenna jack.
>
> Over the last month I've bought, tested and either kept or returned about
> 13 cards now. I still like the Netgear the best where an external antenna
> isn't necessary and the Orinoco Gold where one is. The little LinkSys USB
> client is also a good unit, though it won't accept an external antenna
> either. The built-in whip does a decent job.
>
> I also bought that antenna Peter recommends. It's pretty decent - but I
> have to use it with my Orinoco Gold card with a pigtail adapter.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:15:30 -0800, "Peter Pan"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >They have little adapter cables (about 6" long).. One end plugs into the
end
> >of the card where the card antenna attaches, and has a mini uhf connector
on
> >the other end and screws onto all their antennas etc. The specs/details
are
> >at that same website, but look under antennas (they sell several dozen
> >different kinds). Real handy for me in the RV.. I have an antenna on the
> >roof, and when in the RV, I take off the card antenna and plug in the
> >external with the jack on the cable already, when going out, I just
reverse
> >that.
> >
> >the Whole site has a bunch of neat stuff on it (www.smc.com) but I pasted
a
> >link directly to the card you asked about, rather than a generic web site
> >address.
> >
> >For a detail picture of the adapter cables... see the website (with a
> >picture at)
> >http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SMCHMANT-6
> >
> >Out of curiosity, where do you live? (generally, not specifically) If in
the
> >US, I can point to a few websites that not only sell it, but ship to your
> >door (actually I use www.outpost.com it's Fry's electronics website, and
> >they do sales and shipping, but only within the US).. If you are outside
of
> >the US, there is a distributor finder (on the smc website) to find
worldwide
> >distributors.
> >
> >Want to see a more detailed pic/description of an antenna I rcommend?
> >(Included with 2 universal antenna connector cables)
>
>http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...USA&cid=5&scid
=33&pid=1299
> >
> >for a little more (about $5 more) they also make a high power card that
does
> >both a and b/g (you only asked about G)
> >
> >SMC2536W-AG
> >EliteConnectT Universal Wireless Cardbus Adapter
> >
> >2.4GHz/5Ghz 802.11a/g High Power Wireless Cardbus Adapter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >bumtracks wrote:
> >> What type of antenna connector ?
> >> Antenna/Cap just pulls off, no tinkering ?
> >>
> >> fwiw - www.cpx.com has G card with mc card antenna jack.
> >> PrismGT/Nitro I'm using it with a blade antenna. Works well.
> >>
> >> "Peter Pan" > wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>>
> >>> Check out the SMC cards.. The cards not only have external antenna
> >>> connectors, but are also "High Power" IE 300 mw instead of 50. Much
> >>> greater range (about 1155 FT) without the external antenna, but can
> >>> use one if needed. (the end of the card is actually the antenna, it
> >>> pulls off and the cable plugs onto the connectors (that can be used
> >>> for an external antenna, or replace the end of the card one when
> >>> mobile)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At
> >>>
> >>
http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...cid=31&pid=573
> >>> SMC2835W
> >>> EZ ConnectT g Wireless Cardbus Adapter
> >>>
> >>> 2.4GHz 54 Mbps Wireless Cardbus Adapter
> >
>
> ---
> John De Armond
> (E-Mail Removed)
> http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/
> Cleveland, Occupied TN

Well, too bad you bought into johns lies.. I have two of em sitting right
here.. From the box from one of em, a big ole thing on the front of the box
that says "Superior range and Performance - Up to 3 times greater range and
enchanced throughput than any other 802.11 wireless adapter. Detachable
Antenna - Unique design allows for connection to high gain antenna to
increase operating distance using optional SMCANT-OM51". Wonder why mine are
different than his? Doesn't look the same on the inside either. Front of the
card says "2.4GHz/5Ghz 802.11a/g High Power Wireless Cardbus Adapter" The
back of the box has a whole bunch of details (too long to type here)... I
wonder if he got the wrong/cheaper reular power one?

bumtracks wrote:
> thanks for SMC g card info,,, I had that feeling - no antenna ,
> standard power.
> as nowhere mentions an antenna jack and spec is standard 15db &
> recently compex came out with a new card to replace their card with
> external jack. Good thing I stocked up on one.
> SMC and CPX appear to be the same basic 15db prismGT and probably
> exact except for network connection UI yea that driver package is
> sneaky if you're not familiar with PrismGT
>
>
>
> "Neon John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Please ignore this advice. It is both obsolete and wrong. I bought
>> that card without fact checking (shame on me) the last time Peter
>> recommended it. The card no longer has a removable antenna and now
>> uses conventional dual diversity patch antennae. Here is a photo of
>> the guts of the card:
>>
>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/f...835W_front.jpg
>>
>> No removable antenna and no external antenna jack.
>>
>> I wrote to SMC to ask about this. They replied that they do not now
>> make a CardBus card with an external jack.
>>
>> The other problem with this card is that the driver is very poor.
>> Even with the laptop sitting 6" from my AP I could only achieve
>> about 2mB/sec and the CPU load on this 2 gig laptop was around 10%.
>> The Orinoco in the same slot does better than 12 and the Netgear
>> 108mb card does almost 40. Unfortunately, no external antenna jack.
>>
>> Over the last month I've bought, tested and either kept or returned
>> about 13 cards now. I still like the Netgear the best where an
>> external antenna isn't necessary and the Orinoco Gold where one is.
>> The little LinkSys USB client is also a good unit, though it won't
>> accept an external antenna either. The built-in whip does a decent
>> job.
>>
>> I also bought that antenna Peter recommends. It's pretty decent -
>> but I have to use it with my Orinoco Gold card with a pigtail
>> adapter.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:15:30 -0800, "Peter Pan"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> They have little adapter cables (about 6" long).. One end plugs
>>> into the end of the card where the card antenna attaches, and has a
>>> mini uhf connector on the other end and screws onto all their
>>> antennas etc. The specs/details are at that same website, but look
>>> under antennas (they sell several dozen different kinds). Real
>>> handy for me in the RV.. I have an antenna on the roof, and when in
>>> the RV, I take off the card antenna and plug in the external with
>>> the jack on the cable already, when going out, I just reverse that.
>>>
>>> the Whole site has a bunch of neat stuff on it (www.smc.com) but I
>>> pasted a link directly to the card you asked about, rather than a
>>> generic web site address.
>>>
>>> For a detail picture of the adapter cables... see the website (with
>>> a picture at)
>>> http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SMCHMANT-6
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity, where do you live? (generally, not specifically)
>>> If in the US, I can point to a few websites that not only sell it,
>>> but ship to your door (actually I use www.outpost.com it's Fry's
>>> electronics website, and they do sales and shipping, but only
>>> within the US).. If you are outside of the US, there is a
>>> distributor finder (on the smc website) to find worldwide
>>> distributors.
>>>
>>> Want to see a more detailed pic/description of an antenna I
>>> rcommend? (Included with 2 universal antenna connector cables)
>>
>> http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...USA&cid=5&scid
>> =33&pid=1299
>>>
>>> for a little more (about $5 more) they also make a high power card
>>> that does both a and b/g (you only asked about G)
>>>
>>> SMC2536W-AG
>>> EliteConnectT Universal Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>>>
>>> 2.4GHz/5Ghz 802.11a/g High Power Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bumtracks wrote:
>>>> What type of antenna connector ?
>>>> Antenna/Cap just pulls off, no tinkering ?
>>>>
>>>> fwiw - www.cpx.com has G card with mc card antenna jack.
>>>> PrismGT/Nitro I'm using it with a blade antenna. Works well.
>>>>
>>>> "Peter Pan" > wrote in message
>>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out the SMC cards.. The cards not only have external antenna
>>>>> connectors, but are also "High Power" IE 300 mw instead of 50.
>>>>> Much greater range (about 1155 FT) without the external antenna,
>>>>> but can use one if needed. (the end of the card is actually the
>>>>> antenna, it pulls off and the cable plugs onto the connectors
>>>>> (that can be used for an external antenna, or replace the end of
>>>>> the card one when mobile)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At
>>>>>
>>>>
> http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=v...cid=31&pid=573
>>>>> SMC2835W
>>>>> EZ ConnectT g Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.4GHz 54 Mbps Wireless Cardbus Adapter
>>>
>>
>> ---
>> John De Armond
>> (E-Mail Removed)
>> http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/
>> Cleveland, Occupied TN

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:15:35 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Well, too bad you bought into johns lies.. I have two of em sitting right
>here.. From the box from one of em, (...)

Perhaps it would be helpful of both you and John disclose the FCC ID
numbers, so that the actual devices and original manufactories can be
found? If there's any difference between SMC2835W card mutations, the
FCC ID will also be different.

All the wireless vendors recycle their product names as they switch
suppliers. The basic idea is to not obsolete a dealers inventory as
the vendor changes suppliers. The worst case is Orinoco, which has
gone through 5 owners, 4 company names, 4 chipsets, and I dunno how
many FCCID's.


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don't sweat it man. Thanks though - I was looking at a straight b/g and not
BGA card.
...
cpx G card here if you read the literature ...
" nitro based wireless network, increases the data throughput performance by
up to 50% in a pure 802.11g network; while in a 802.11b + 802.11g mixed
network environment, the throughput performance increases to an outstanding
300%!! Provides a wider coverage of up to 400m."

BUT it also says...
"Indoor : 20m (54 Mbps)
Outdoor: 80 m (54 Mbps)"
that 400m max range is probably in B mode at lower speed 1&2 mbps
probably,

I've an abundance of antenna types here and none .11A nor do I want A
right now.
Apparently I'm on a usaf training flight path and if I were to run A with an
external antenna it shows up on these little war plane-jets radar and fcc or
usaf comes knocking if a rookie pilot doesnt do his attack practice on my
home first.