Belkin wireless setup problem

Hi,

A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin Pre-N router
and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.

He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and it won't
connect at all now. When I opened "network Connections", the wireless
network icon just keeps alternating between "disconnected" (with the red
cross on it) and "aquiring netword ID" (or something like that).

On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g card, when
you first configure the card you get the "aquiring nedwork ID" message for
about 5 seconds and then it works fine. On his, it just keeps alternating
between the two messages and never actually picks up an IP address.

Any help would be great.

Geoff

"Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:

> Hi,
>
> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin
> Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
>
> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and
> it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and "aquiring
> netword ID" (or something like that).
>
> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works fine.
> On his, it just keeps alternating between the two messages and
> never actually picks up an IP address.

Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an IP
address from the DHCP server in the router.

Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?

Suggestions:

Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
check for that as a possible cause.

Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.

"Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote in
message news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk...
> Hi,
>
> A mate of mine

Tell your mate how to find the group, then he can be asked questions and
given advice directly. It will save having to pass messages backwards and
forwards through you.

Frazer,

Thanks for the advice. When I was at his place yesterday, I tried turning
the encryption off and changing channels, but it didn't seem to make much
difference??

In order to get an internet connection, we had to cart the whole PC down
stairs and make a cable connection to the router. This of course works fine
and, as you'd expect the wireless signall strength is very good, but it
still can't aquire an ip address??

I wondered if there was any conflict between the belkin configuration
software and the XP config software???

I tried taking the belkin software off, but then on restart the PC was
asking for network card drivers and I couldn't find any on the install CD.
The only option I had was to reinstall the belkin software.

I run my wirelss network just using the windows config software and nothing
else and it works great??

Is there likely to be a problem in using the belkin software??

Cheers

Geoff
"Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns9782EDA9B4DD1frz@62.253.170.163...
> "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
> in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin
>> Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
>>
>> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and
>> it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
>> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
>> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and "aquiring
>> netword ID" (or something like that).
>>
>> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
>> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
>> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works fine.
>> On his, it just keeps alternating between the two messages and
>> never actually picks up an IP address.
>
> Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
> communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an IP
> address from the DHCP server in the router.
>
> Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?
>
> Suggestions:
>
> Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
> check for that as a possible cause.
>
> Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.
>
>
>
>
>

More suggestions:

Check the DHCP server is configured on in the router.

Try setting the router to pure 802.11g working, switching off any
pre-N or other bells 'n whistles.

Try a different wireless adapter.

Seek help from Belkin.


"Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
in news:knwQf.34027$(E-Mail Removed) :

> Frazer,
>
> Thanks for the advice. When I was at his place yesterday, I
> tried turning the encryption off and changing channels, but it
> didn't seem to make much difference??
>
> In order to get an internet connection, we had to cart the whole
> PC down stairs and make a cable connection to the router. This
> of course works fine and, as you'd expect the wireless signall
> strength is very good, but it still can't aquire an ip address??
>
> I wondered if there was any conflict between the belkin
> configuration software and the XP config software???
>
> I tried taking the belkin software off, but then on restart the
> PC was asking for network card drivers and I couldn't find any
> on the install CD. The only option I had was to reinstall the
> belkin software.
>
> I run my wirelss network just using the windows config software
> and nothing else and it works great??
>
> Is there likely to be a problem in using the belkin software??
>
> Cheers
>
> Geoff
> "Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9782EDA9B4DD1frz@62.253.170.163...
>> "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k>
>> wrote in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a
>>> Belkin Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
>>>
>>> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections
>>> and it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
>>> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
>>> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and
>>> "aquiring netword ID" (or something like that).
>>>
>>> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
>>> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
>>> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works
>>> fine. On his, it just keeps alternating between the two
>>> messages and never actually picks up an IP address.
>>
>> Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
>> communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an
>> IP address from the DHCP server in the router.
>>
>> Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?
>>
>> Suggestions:
>>
>> Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
>> check for that as a possible cause.
>>
>> Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Geoff wrote:

> Frazer,
>
> Thanks for the advice. When I was at his place yesterday, I tried
> turning the encryption off and changing channels, but it didn't seem
> to make much difference??
>
> In order to get an internet connection, we had to cart the whole PC
> down stairs and make a cable connection to the router. This of
> course works fine and, as you'd expect the wireless signall strength
> is very good, but it still can't aquire an ip address??
>
> I wondered if there was any conflict between the belkin configuration
> software and the XP config software???
>
> I tried taking the belkin software off, but then on restart the PC
> was asking for network card drivers and I couldn't find any on the
> install CD. The only option I had was to reinstall the belkin
> software.
>
> I run my wirelss network just using the windows config software and
> nothing else and it works great??
>
> Is there likely to be a problem in using the belkin software??
>
> Cheers
>
> Geoff
> "Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9782EDA9B4DD1frz@62.253.170.163...
> > "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
> > in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:
> >
> >> Hi,
> > >
> >> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin
> >> Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
> > >
> >> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and
> >> it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
> >> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
> >> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and "aquiring
> >> netword ID" (or something like that).
> > >
> >> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
> >> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
> >> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works fine.
> >> On his, it just keeps alternating between the two messages and
> >> never actually picks up an IP address.
> >
> > Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
> > communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an IP
> > address from the DHCP server in the router.
> >
> > Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?
> >
> > Suggestions:
> >
> > Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
> > check for that as a possible cause.
> >
> > Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

I had a similar problem with a Belkin 54G PCI card in one of my PCs.

The damn thing would try to connect and reconnect and reconnect
etc....infinitem...you get the picture :-)

Seems that the Belkin card needs the Belkin software and if you try to
use the XP wizard it just gets all confused.

The way around it (from memory) was to completely delete the network
details on the PC in question and start again.

Then ONLY use the Belkin software to connect to the network.

Also make sure that you have the security passphrase correctly entered
and recognised.

I seem to recollect that when this situation arises you have problems
getting the passphrase recognised (for WPA) when this conflict occurs.

Once you get the Belkin card working do NOT revert back to the XP
wizard.

Shut down the PC with the LAN enabled and on reboot the Belkin should
find the open network automatically.

From then on you should be OK.

Its worth noting that in the instructions for this card Belkin state
categorically that the Belkin software must be used.

It doesnt however, tell you the strife you can get into if you try it
the other way round.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

Rob

me here wrote:

> Geoff wrote:
>
> > Frazer,
> >
> > Thanks for the advice. When I was at his place yesterday, I tried
> > turning the encryption off and changing channels, but it didn't seem
> > to make much difference??
> >
> > In order to get an internet connection, we had to cart the whole PC
> > down stairs and make a cable connection to the router. This of
> > course works fine and, as you'd expect the wireless signall strength
> > is very good, but it still can't aquire an ip address??
> >
> > I wondered if there was any conflict between the belkin
> > configuration software and the XP config software???
> >
> > I tried taking the belkin software off, but then on restart the PC
> > was asking for network card drivers and I couldn't find any on the
> > install CD. The only option I had was to reinstall the belkin
> > software.
> >
> > I run my wirelss network just using the windows config software and
> > nothing else and it works great??
> >
> > Is there likely to be a problem in using the belkin software??
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Geoff
> > "Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9782EDA9B4DD1frz@62.253.170.163...
> > > "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
> > > in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > > >
> > >> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin
> > >> Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
> > > >
> > >> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and
> > >> it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
> > >> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
> > >> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and "aquiring
> > >> netword ID" (or something like that).
> > > >
> > >> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
> > >> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
> > >> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works fine.
> > >> On his, it just keeps alternating between the two messages and
> > >> never actually picks up an IP address.
> > >
> > > Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
> > > communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an IP
> > > address from the DHCP server in the router.
> > >
> > > Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?
> > >
> > > Suggestions:
> > >
> > > Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
> > > check for that as a possible cause.
> > >
> > > Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> I had a similar problem with a Belkin 54G PCI card in one of my PCs.
>
> The damn thing would try to connect and reconnect and reconnect
> etc....infinitem...you get the picture :-)
>
> Seems that the Belkin card needs the Belkin software and if you try to
> use the XP wizard it just gets all confused.
>
> The way around it (from memory) was to completely delete the network
> details on the PC in question and start again.
>
> Then ONLY use the Belkin software to connect to the network.
>
> Also make sure that you have the security passphrase correctly entered
> and recognised.
>
> I seem to recollect that when this situation arises you have problems
> getting the passphrase recognised (for WPA) when this conflict occurs.
>
> Once you get the Belkin card working do NOT revert back to the XP
> wizard.
>
> Shut down the PC with the LAN enabled and on reboot the Belkin should
> find the open network automatically.
>
> From then on you should be OK.
>
> Its worth noting that in the instructions for this card Belkin state
> categorically that the Belkin software must be used.
>
> It doesnt however, tell you the strife you can get into if you try it
> the other way round.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Cheers
>
> Rob

Just to clarify a point.....do NOT use windows to automatically
reconnect the network.

My PC with the Belkin card is packed away at the moment, but from
memory theres a tick box on the Belkin software to allow windows to
reconnect, and also one under the XP wizard.

DO NOT tick either.

The Belkin software will remember and restore the connection OK.

Cheers again

Rob

thanks for the replies, I will pass the info onto him tomorrow at work and
report back as to how he gets on.

Geoff

"me here" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> me here wrote:
>
>> Geoff wrote:
>>
>> > Frazer,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the advice. When I was at his place yesterday, I tried
>> > turning the encryption off and changing channels, but it didn't seem
>> > to make much difference??
>> >
>> > In order to get an internet connection, we had to cart the whole PC
>> > down stairs and make a cable connection to the router. This of
>> > course works fine and, as you'd expect the wireless signall strength
>> > is very good, but it still can't aquire an ip address??
>> >
>> > I wondered if there was any conflict between the belkin
>> > configuration software and the XP config software???
>> >
>> > I tried taking the belkin software off, but then on restart the PC
>> > was asking for network card drivers and I couldn't find any on the
>> > install CD. The only option I had was to reinstall the belkin
>> > software.
>> >
>> > I run my wirelss network just using the windows config software and
>> > nothing else and it works great??
>> >
>> > Is there likely to be a problem in using the belkin software??
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Geoff
>> > "Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:Xns9782EDA9B4DD1frz@62.253.170.163...
>> > > "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
>> > > in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi,
>> > > >
>> > >> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin
>> > >> Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
>> > > >
>> > >> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and
>> > >> it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
>> > >> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
>> > >> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and "aquiring
>> > >> netword ID" (or something like that).
>> > > >
>> > >> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
>> > >> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
>> > >> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works fine.
>> > >> On his, it just keeps alternating between the two messages and
>> > >> never actually picks up an IP address.
>> > >
>> > > Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
>> > > communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an IP
>> > > address from the DHCP server in the router.
>> > >
>> > > Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?
>> > >
>> > > Suggestions:
>> > >
>> > > Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
>> > > check for that as a possible cause.
>> > >
>> > > Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>> I had a similar problem with a Belkin 54G PCI card in one of my PCs.
>>
>> The damn thing would try to connect and reconnect and reconnect
>> etc....infinitem...you get the picture :-)
>>
>> Seems that the Belkin card needs the Belkin software and if you try to
>> use the XP wizard it just gets all confused.
>>
>> The way around it (from memory) was to completely delete the network
>> details on the PC in question and start again.
>>
>> Then ONLY use the Belkin software to connect to the network.
>>
>> Also make sure that you have the security passphrase correctly entered
>> and recognised.
>>
>> I seem to recollect that when this situation arises you have problems
>> getting the passphrase recognised (for WPA) when this conflict occurs.
>>
>> Once you get the Belkin card working do NOT revert back to the XP
>> wizard.
>>
>> Shut down the PC with the LAN enabled and on reboot the Belkin should
>> find the open network automatically.
>>
>> From then on you should be OK.
>>
>> Its worth noting that in the instructions for this card Belkin state
>> categorically that the Belkin software must be used.
>>
>> It doesnt however, tell you the strife you can get into if you try it
>> the other way round.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Rob
>
> Just to clarify a point.....do NOT use windows to automatically
> reconnect the network.
>
> My PC with the Belkin card is packed away at the moment, but from
> memory theres a tick box on the Belkin software to allow windows to
> reconnect, and also one under the XP wizard.
>
> DO NOT tick either.
>
> The Belkin software will remember and restore the connection OK.
>
> Cheers again
>
> Rob

I'm having exactly the same problem with my Belkin wireless card connecting
to my wireless connection. All my other computers connect fine apart from
the one using the Belkin card

"Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote in
message news:knwQf.34027$(E-Mail Removed) ...
> Frazer,
>
> Thanks for the advice. When I was at his place yesterday, I tried turning
> the encryption off and changing channels, but it didn't seem to make much
> difference??
>
> In order to get an internet connection, we had to cart the whole PC down
> stairs and make a cable connection to the router. This of course works
> fine and, as you'd expect the wireless signall strength is very good, but
> it still can't aquire an ip address??
>
> I wondered if there was any conflict between the belkin configuration
> software and the XP config software???
>
> I tried taking the belkin software off, but then on restart the PC was
> asking for network card drivers and I couldn't find any on the install CD.
> The only option I had was to reinstall the belkin software.
>
> I run my wirelss network just using the windows config software and
> nothing else and it works great??
>
> Is there likely to be a problem in using the belkin software??
>
> Cheers
>
> Geoff
> "Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns9782EDA9B4DD1frz@62.253.170.163...
>> "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote
>> in news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> A mate of mine in on NTL broadband and he connects via a Belkin
>>> Pre-N router and a Belkin 54g card in his PC upstairs.
>>>
>>> He's been having loads of problems with dropped connections and
>>> it won't connect at all now. When I opened "network
>>> Connections", the wireless network icon just keeps alternating
>>> between "disconnected" (with the red cross on it) and "aquiring
>>> netword ID" (or something like that).
>>>
>>> On my wireless setup, with a Belkin 54g router and Linksys 54g
>>> card, when you first configure the card you get the "aquiring
>>> nedwork ID" message for about 5 seconds and then it works fine.
>>> On his, it just keeps alternating between the two messages and
>>> never actually picks up an IP address.
>>
>> Sounds like the network is being detected by the cliet PC but
>> communication isn't working so the client PC cannot acquire an IP
>> address from the DHCP server in the router.
>>
>> Q: Are any other wireless networks showing up?
>>
>> Suggestions:
>>
>> Try switching encryption off altogether at the router, just to
>> check for that as a possible cause.
>>
>> Try selecting a different wireless channel on the router.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Me here,

Could you please run through all that again please? I am having exactly the
same problem. I have tried to connect using the Windows XP facility and so,
I have probably cocked things up.

What do I need to do? If I reinstall the wireless card, what are the next
steps? My network is secured with WPA-PSK and so, whereabouts do I input the
passkey to access the network? I can only find a part that asks me for a
username, however one is not used.

"paul" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:knpQf.92$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@SPAMMERS_GET_STUFFED_blueyonder.co.u k> wrote in
> message news:ugnQf.33908$(E-Mail Removed). uk...
>> Hi,
>>
>> A mate of mine
>
> Tell your mate how to find the group, then he can be asked questions and
> given advice directly. It will save having to pass messages backwards and
> forwards through you.
>
>