Belkin router and wanadoo connection hell

Hi

I am trying to help out a friend and install a belkin f5d7632-
wireless router with a wanadoo broadband connection. I have installed
few different types of wireless routers but never had a problem lik
this!
Using a hardwired ethernet connection I have accessed the routers GU
and have run belkins wizard. The wizard asks me what kind of connectio
(PPPoA) and static IP or obtain one automatically (automatic) VPI an
VCI are already set to the correct numbers then asks for user name an
password.....This is the problem! The connection fails to authenticat
and says that the user login or password is wrong however I have run
wanadoo and they are correct. So I am guessing that there must be
problem with the routers hand-shake.
These are wanadoos settings:
Connection type PPPOA

VPI/VCI 0/38

Encap VCMUX

Wanadoo Settings for Router:

Encapsulation: PPP over ATM

Multiplexing Method: VC-Based

Virtual Circuit: VPI=0 VCI=38

I cannot find any setting on the router to check if 'Encap VCMUX' an
'Multiplexing Method: VC-Based' are set correctly as I cannot see thes
terms on the GUI.
I have also seen another post for a similar problem that says ther
might be a problem with 'CHAPS'. I have no idea what CHAPS is, how t
configure it or even how to find it.

Any help or suggestions appreciated

TIA

Progge

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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 17:38:09 +0100, progger wrote:

>
> Hi
>
> I am trying to help out a friend and install a belkin f5d7632-4 wireless
> router with a wanadoo broadband connection. I have installed a few
> different types of wireless routers but never had a problem like this!
> Using a hardwired ethernet connection I have accessed the routers GUI and
> have run belkins wizard. The wizard asks me what kind of connection
> (PPPoA) and static IP or obtain one automatically (automatic) VPI and VCI
> are already set to the correct numbers then asks for user name and
> password.....This is the problem! The connection fails to authenticate and
> says that the user login or password is wrong
> ...
> I have also seen another post for a similar problem that says there might
> be a problem with 'CHAPS'. I have no idea what CHAPS is, how to configure
> it or even how to find it.



You shouldn't really need to worry about PAP/CHAP, the normal unix
PPP implementation, that you generally find in domestic routers, can work
it out for itself.

I had a similar PPP problem when I switched from a router to an X-Modem
(which also terminates PPP itself). I eventually gave up and had some
lunch. When I came back it was working. I suspect that something had to
time-out on the other end.

progger wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am trying to help out a friend and install a belkin f5d7632-4
> wireless router with a wanadoo broadband connection. I have installed a
> few different types of wireless routers but never had a problem like
> this!
> Using a hardwired ethernet connection I have accessed the routers GUI
> and have run belkins wizard. The wizard asks me what kind of connection
> (PPPoA) and static IP or obtain one automatically (automatic) VPI and
> VCI are already set to the correct numbers then asks for user name and
> password.....This is the problem! The connection fails to authenticate
> and says that the user login or password is wrong however I have rung
> wanadoo and they are correct. So I am guessing that there must be a
> problem with the routers hand-shake.
> These are wanadoos settings:
> Connection type PPPOA
>
> VPI/VCI 0/38
>
> Encap VCMUX
>
> Wanadoo Settings for Router:
>
> Encapsulation: PPP over ATM
>
> Multiplexing Method: VC-Based
>
> Virtual Circuit: VPI=0 VCI=38
>
> I cannot find any setting on the router to check if 'Encap VCMUX' and
> 'Multiplexing Method: VC-Based' are set correctly as I cannot see these
> terms on the GUI.
> I have also seen another post for a similar problem that says there
> might be a problem with 'CHAPS'. I have no idea what CHAPS is, how to
> configure it or even how to find it.
>
> Any help or suggestions appreciated
>
> TIA
>
> Progger

are you remembering to put @fs (or something like that) on the end of the
username?
Does the username and password work on windows dial up using the supplied
usb modem?

Gaz

progger Wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am trying to help out a friend and install a belkin f5d7632-
> wireless router with a wanadoo broadband connection. I have installed
> few different types of wireless routers but never had a problem lik
> this!
> Using a hardwired ethernet connection I have accessed the routers GU
> and have run belkins wizard. The wizard asks me what kind of connectio
> (PPPoA) and static IP or obtain one automatically (automatic) VPI an
> VCI are already set to the correct numbers then asks for user name an
> password.....This is the problem! The connection fails to authenticat
> and says that the user login or password is wrong however I have run
> wanadoo and they are correct. So I am guessing that there must be
> problem with the routers hand-shake.
> These are wanadoos settings:
> Connection type PPPOA
>
> VPI/VCI 0/38
>
> Encap VCMUX
>
> Wanadoo Settings for Router:
>
> Encapsulation: PPP over ATM
>
> Multiplexing Method: VC-Based
>
> Virtual Circuit: VPI=0 VCI=38
>
> I cannot find any setting on the router to check if 'Encap VCMUX' an
> 'Multiplexing Method: VC-Based' are set correctly as I cannot see thes
> terms on the GUI.
> I have also seen another post for a similar problem that says ther
> might be a problem with 'CHAPS'. I have no idea what CHAPS is, how t
> configure it or even how to find it.
>
> Any help or suggestions appreciated
>
> TIA
>
> Progger

Ok although I had no replies I manged to sort the problem out b
updating the modem firmware and then do a reset to factory default an
started over. I now have this problem!After I started over I connecte
instantly with the loging and password however when the connectio
drops I am unable to reconnect and have to reset the router to defaul
and start over....every time!!. Is there a way I can stop th
connection from dropping and if not why do you think I have to reset t
default settings every time??

think I might dip my hand in some hot fat to take my mind of this ***
router

TI

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progger

progger wrote:

> I am trying to help out a friend and install a belkin f5d7632-4
> wireless router with a wanadoo broadband connection. I have installed a
> few different types of wireless routers but never had a problem like
> this!
> Using a hardwired ethernet connection I have accessed the routers GUI
> and have run belkins wizard. The wizard asks me what kind of connection
> (PPPoA) and static IP or obtain one automatically (automatic) VPI and
> VCI are already set to the correct numbers then asks for user name and
> password.....This is the problem! The connection fails to authenticate
> and says that the user login or password is wrong however I have rung
> wanadoo and they are correct. So I am guessing that there must be a
> problem with the routers hand-shake.

....

> I have also seen another post for a similar problem that says there
> might be a problem with 'CHAPS'. I have no idea what CHAPS is, how to
> configure it or even how to find it.
>
> Any help or suggestions appreciated

Sounds like a problem with PAP/CHAP, ie the router defaults to PAP, and the
remote end wants CHAP. See if you can work out how to force the router into
either PAP or CHAP mode.

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On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:02:52 +0000, alexd wrote:

> Sounds like a problem with PAP/CHAP, ie the router defaults to PAP, and
> the remote end wants CHAP. See if you can work out how to force the
> router into either PAP or CHAP mode.

The reason why pap/chap options exist is so you can specify which
ones *you* will accept. The default is to accept whatever the other end
supports; this default usually translates to "auto" or "pap/chap" on the
GUI. There is no need to force it.

"Gaz" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)
> progger wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am trying to help out a friend and install a belkin
> > f5d7632-4 wireless router with a wanadoo broadband
> > connection. I have installed a few different types of
> > wireless routers but never had a problem like this!
> > Using a hardwired ethernet connection I have accessed
> > the routers GUI and have run belkins wizard. The wizard
> > asks me what kind of connection (PPPoA) and static IP
> > or obtain one automatically (automatic) VPI and VCI are
> > already set to the correct numbers then asks for user
> > name and password.....This is the problem! The
> > connection fails to authenticate and says that the user
> > login or password is wrong however I have rung wanadoo
> > and they are correct. So I am guessing that there must
> > be a problem with the routers hand-shake. These are wanadoos
> > settings:
> > Connection type PPPOA
> >
> > VPI/VCI 0/38
> >
> > Encap VCMUX
> >
> > Wanadoo Settings for Router:
> >
> > Encapsulation: PPP over ATM
> >
> > Multiplexing Method: VC-Based
> >
> > Virtual Circuit: VPI=0 VCI=38
> >
> > I cannot find any setting on the router to check if
> > 'Encap VCMUX' and 'Multiplexing Method: VC-Based' are
> > set correctly as I cannot see these terms on the GUI.
> > I have also seen another post for a similar problem
> > that says there might be a problem with 'CHAPS'. I have
> > no idea what CHAPS is, how to configure it or even how
> > to find it. Any help or suggestions appreciated
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Progger
>
> are you remembering to put @fs (or something like that)
> on the end of the username?
> Does the username and password work on windows dial up
> using the supplied usb modem?

Have you recently had a speed upgrade..? Be careful with Freeserve/Wanadoo
usernames, they can change without warning, particularly after a speed
upgrade, and CS *won't* tell you..!

I started out on 512k several years ago when broadband first started, with
the username in the form (E-Mail Removed) - then
after upgrading to 1Mb the part after the @ changed without warning to
simply "@fs" but CS didn't tell me until I rang them wondering why I
couldn't log in. Then when I upgraded again to 2Mb the same thing
happened, I couldn't get in. Several calls to CS (I'd forgotten about the
original name change problem) and threatening to report anybody and
everybody until I got a supervisor, I finally found out that my username
had reverted to the original, i.e. the bb2.freeserve.co.uk one.

Ivor

progger wrote:

> I now have this problem!After I started over I connected
> instantly with the loging and password however when the connection
> drops I am unable to reconnect and have to reset the router to default
> and start over....every time!!. Is there a way I can stop the
> connection from dropping

set timeout to zero or check some box about re-connecting automatically
? Mine is up 24/7, if you stil have problems I'll fish out its
settings.

Phil

Bob wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 00:02:52 +0000, alexd wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a problem with PAP/CHAP, ie the router defaults to PAP, and
>> the remote end wants CHAP. See if you can work out how to force the
>> router into either PAP or CHAP mode.
>
> The reason why pap/chap options exist is so you can specify which
> ones *you* will accept. The default is to accept whatever the other end
> supports; this default usually translates to "auto" or "pap/chap" on the
> GUI. There is no need to force it.

If the router is broken and can't work out what the remote end supports, it
may be necessary to force it.

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progger Wrote:
> Have to set router to factory default and start over every tim
> connection drops!

Thanks for all of your help! I have now set it to zero idle time an
auto reconnect, hope that works! I still cant see anything fo
PAP/Chaps in the GUI! Anyway fingers crosse

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