Belkin F5D7632 Wireless Issue - help please!

I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter and
her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin high
speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops, but they do not see the
wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN cable
to the back of the 7632 unit. Once the hard-wired connection is made,
wireless springs into life and works perfectly. When the cable is removed
the laptops are fine in wireless mode until they are powered off. Next time
they use them they have to do it all again. They have different laptops with
different security systems on them. I think this problem may be related to
the high speed Belkin cards in the laptops as my own laptop (Sony Vaio with
Centrino and built-in wireless) works fine with the unit, without the need
for a wired connection to kick start it.

Does anyone have any ideas on this?

Regards

Tom

"Tom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter and
>her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin high
>speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops, but they do not see the
>wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN cable
>to the back of the 7632 unit. Once the hard-wired connection is made,
>wireless springs into life and works perfectly. When the cable is removed
>the laptops are fine in wireless mode until they are powered off. Next time
>they use them they have to do it all again. They have different laptops
>with different security systems on them. I think this problem may be
>related to the high speed Belkin cards in the laptops as my own laptop
>(Sony Vaio with Centrino and built-in wireless) works fine with the unit,
>without the need for a wired connection to kick start it.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>
> Regards
>
> Tom


Had the same problem with the same kit. Could only get it to work with no
security. Ended up fiddling until just using the simplest security level
worked.


Dave

Dave
>

Tom wrote:
> I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter and
> her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin high
> speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops

which cards ?

> but they do not see the
> wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN cable
> to the back of the 7632 unit.

what do you mean by "see". Is the wireless signal detected but nothing
happens ? if so look at the TCP/IP settings on the laptops before and
after success.

> Does anyone have any ideas on this?

makes little sense, to be honest. Normally a windows laptop will detect
the wireless signal and ask if you want to connect (esp if non-secure
net it hasn't seen before). When you accept that it gets the IP
addresses etc. If it doesn't see it you can force it by looking on the
Advanced tab of available wireless networks - you may have done this
but didn't say. Someimes a disable/enable of the wireless card via
Network Connections helps as XP seems to boot up in the wrong order at
times.

Phil

"Tom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter and
>her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin high
>speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops, but they do not see the
>wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN cable
>to the back of the 7632 unit. Once the hard-wired connection is made,
>wireless springs into life and works perfectly. When the cable is removed
>the laptops are fine in wireless mode until they are powered off. Next time
>they use them they have to do it all again. They have different laptops
>with different security systems on them. I think this problem may be
>related to the high speed Belkin cards in the laptops as my own laptop
>(Sony Vaio with Centrino and built-in wireless) works fine with the unit,
>without the need for a wired connection to kick start it.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>
> Regards
>
> Tom


Try disabling the hard-wired connection before using the wireless one, see
what happens when you take that one out of the equation. You don't have
bridging enabled, do you?

Haven't tried disabling the hard-wired as the problem exists on two
different makes/models of laptop. Problem is they live over 100 miles from
me so I will not be able to do anything technical about it for a while. How
do I check to see if bridging is enabled? Is this at the PC end or in the
router? Assume the issue is the PCMCIA card end as my own laptop works fine,
as does a couple of other people I know with the identical router and
different laptops.

Regards

Tom


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> "Tom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter
>>and her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin
>>high speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops, but they do not see the
>>wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN
>>cable to the back of the 7632 unit. Once the hard-wired connection is
>>made, wireless springs into life and works perfectly. When the cable is
>>removed the laptops are fine in wireless mode until they are powered off.
>>Next time they use them they have to do it all again. They have different
>>laptops with different security systems on them. I think this problem may
>>be related to the high speed Belkin cards in the laptops as my own laptop
>>(Sony Vaio with Centrino and built-in wireless) works fine with the unit,
>>without the need for a wired connection to kick start it.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> Try disabling the hard-wired connection before using the wireless one, see
> what happens when you take that one out of the equation. You don't have
> bridging enabled, do you?
>
>
>
>

The only security I have put on for them at this stage is MAC address
limitation as I have never managed to get WPA working.

Regards

Tom

"Dave P" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter
>>and her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin
>>high speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops, but they do not see the
>>wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN
>>cable to the back of the 7632 unit. Once the hard-wired connection is
>>made, wireless springs into life and works perfectly. When the cable is
>>removed the laptops are fine in wireless mode until they are powered off.
>>Next time they use them they have to do it all again. They have different
>>laptops with different security systems on them. I think this problem may
>>be related to the high speed Belkin cards in the laptops as my own laptop
>>(Sony Vaio with Centrino and built-in wireless) works fine with the unit,
>>without the need for a wired connection to kick start it.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> Had the same problem with the same kit. Could only get it to work with no
> security. Ended up fiddling until just using the simplest security level
> worked.
>
>
> Dave
>
> Dave
>>
>
>

"PhilT" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> I have installed a Belkin F5D7632 wireless router modem for my daughter
>> and
>> her husband, but it has a weird problem. I have installed the Belkin high
>> speed PCMCIA cards in each of their laptops
>
> which cards ?

Cards are "Belkin wireless g 2.4GHz 125g notebook PCMCIA card"

>
>> but they do not see the
>> wireless network until they have been physically connected with a LAN
>> cable
>> to the back of the 7632 unit.
>
> what do you mean by "see". Is the wireless signal detected but nothing
> happens ? if so look at the TCP/IP settings on the laptops before and
> after success.

Without connecting through the LAN cable, no wireless devices are detected
in range, even by telling the PC to search for wireless devices.

>
>> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>
> makes little sense, to be honest. Normally a windows laptop will detect
> the wireless signal and ask if you want to connect (esp if non-secure
> net it hasn't seen before). When you accept that it gets the IP
> addresses etc. If it doesn't see it you can force it by looking on the
> Advanced tab of available wireless networks - you may have done this
> but didn't say. Someimes a disable/enable of the wireless card via
> Network Connections helps as XP seems to boot up in the wrong order at
> times.

Tried disabling and restarting the wireless card, but this made no
difference. There is no security set on the router, other than restricting
it to specific MAC addressess. When the laptops are booted up from cold, the
cards are plugged in but no wireless is detected. Hard-wiring to the LAN
port on the router results in the wireless being seen within seconds.

>
> Phil
>

"Tom" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> The only security I have put on for them at this stage is MAC address
> limitation as I have never managed to get WPA working.
>

If the router is anything like my Belkin 7630 then adding a WAP number for
encryption is simple to do in the routers setup screen etc via IE. Don't
worry about WPA not nessasary

Is wireless enabled ? Do all pc's have the SSID ? I must say when I got my
router I had setup everything within minutes

> If the router is anything like my Belkin 7630 then adding a WAP number

WEP I meant!

"Anorak" <00000@00000.000> wrote in message
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>> If the router is anything like my Belkin 7630 then adding a WAP number
>
> WEP I meant!
>

Whilst on the Belkin topic I found this hidden page useful for line stats...

http://192.168.2.1/adsl_status_main.stm


Dave