Being A Wireless Hotspot Provider

Hi,

I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
live.

I've had a look into bonded ADSL and can have that side of things working to
provide good bandwidth.

My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.

Any help or pointers to some information on the net would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks in Advance

Rob

rob <aqwh54-NOSPAMPLEASE-@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
> allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
> you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.

That might depend on what country you are in, and maybe what area you are
in.

In the San Francisco, CA, USA area, one might want to be a subscriber to
Sonic.net, and let other subscribers of Sonic.net access your access point,
with a small revenue from sonic.net.

http://www.sonic.net/hotspots/hosting/

Or, a canned commercial solution
http://hotspotzz.com/corporate/beahotspot.asp
http://boingo.com/hso/owners.html

Or
http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003253.html
http://www.free-hotspot.com/become_home.htm
http://www.publicip.net

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

I'm in the UK,

I'll look at the site you mention to get an idea of what needs to be done.

Thanks for the pointer )

Rob


<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:ekqe2p$hea$(E-Mail Removed)...
> rob <aqwh54-NOSPAMPLEASE-@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
>> allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do
>> when
>> you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.
>
> That might depend on what country you are in, and maybe what area you are
> in.
>
> In the San Francisco, CA, USA area, one might want to be a subscriber to
> Sonic.net, and let other subscribers of Sonic.net access your access
> point,
> with a small revenue from sonic.net.
>
> http://www.sonic.net/hotspots/hosting/
>
> Or, a canned commercial solution
> http://hotspotzz.com/corporate/beahotspot.asp
> http://boingo.com/hso/owners.html
>
> Or
> http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003253.html
> http://www.free-hotspot.com/become_home.htm
> http://www.publicip.net
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

rob wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
> live.
>
> I've had a look into bonded ADSL and can have that side of things working to
> provide good bandwidth.

Are you sure you meant bonded DSL? That requires associated facilities
at your local telco. Or do you mean dual DSL lines with a load sharing
modem interface?

rob wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
> live.
>
> I've had a look into bonded ADSL and can have that side of things working to
> provide good bandwidth.
>
> My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
> allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
> you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.
>
> Any help or pointers to some information on the net would be greatly
> appreciated.

Take a look at:
http://www.btopenzone.com/partners/btoziab.jsp

--
WH

What I looked at was a bonded adsl solution
Though a load sharing modem interface sounds like a cheaper option! )
Where do I find out about that?

Rob

"decaturtxcowboy" <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote in message
newsv5ch.8592$(E-Mail Removed) t...
> rob wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where
>> they live.
>>
>> I've had a look into bonded ADSL and can have that side of things working
>> to provide good bandwidth.
>
> Are you sure you meant bonded DSL? That requires associated facilities
> at your local telco. Or do you mean dual DSL lines with a load sharing
> modem interface?

Hi rob,

If you want to build your own hotspot and start selling Internet
service, you can use ZyXEL G-4100 HotSpot, it's all in one, solution
which includes the following:

1. 802.11g wireless Access Point.
2. ADSL Router.
3. 4 port Ethernet switch.
4. Small Thermal printer.
5. Zero Configuration System ( Amazing, It can allow any kind of
guestes IP addresses to get into the Internet without the need to
modify any thing at the guest's NB or PC)
6. Internal Billing System ( AAA service ) which can be programed to
accepts credit cards as well as selling pre-paid internet time.

list price is less than $1000..

For more details about G-4100 hotspot please do visit :
www.networkingland.com/dsl_vendors.htm then check ZyXEL wireless
products.


Good Luck!
www.networkingland.com

Panda


rob wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
> live.
>
> I've had a look into bonded ADSL and can have that side of things working to
> provide good bandwidth.
>
> My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
> allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
> you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.
>
> Any help or pointers to some information on the net would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Rob

rob wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
> live.
>
> I've had a look into bonded ADSL and can have that side of things working to
> provide good bandwidth.
>
> My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
> allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
> you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.
>
> Any help or pointers to some information on the net would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
> Rob
>
>

Have you thought about http://fon.com

"rob" <aqwh54-NOSPAMPLEASE-@dsl.pipex.com> hath wroth:

>I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
>live.
>My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
>allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
>you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.

Never mind the technical aspects of becoming a WISP. There are
numerous products that will make it happen. You should think about
the political and social aspects instead. What you're doing is
setting up everything required of a wire line ISP, with the added
enjoyment of an unreliable method of delivery. When you say "where
they live" I'm assuming that this will be a replacement for a DSL or
cable modem for home use, as in a neighborhood WLAN, not a coffee shop
hot spot.

So, who is going to monitor the system for abuse?

What do you do when someone complains about the speed?

How do you handle interference from other systems?

Bandwidth managment and QoS to keep one user from all hogging the
bandwidth? Are you going to limit use and abuse such as Bitorrent?

Be prepared for phone calls at odd hours and inconvenient times.

Who's gonna do the bookkeeping and accounting?

Maybe it's best that you let your friends cry and have them get their
own broadband connection? Unless you have answers to the previous
rhetorical questions, you might be jumping into a potential social
problem. I run a neighborhood WLAN/LAN and have a good idea of how
such things work. Methinks you should discuss the implications with
someone that already operates something similar to what you're
planning, and verify that you actually want to do it.

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff,

I'm hoping to provide 2x Load Balanced 8 Mbps adsl lines with a router that
can carry out the load balancing. This would give a user more bandwidth than
they would get on thier own ADSL line (providing that not many users are
online at any one time)

They would also get the benifit that they would no longer have to purchase
broadband and could in theory get rid of thier phone lines. This would make
this alternative an attractive one. My target is users who live on
houseboats in a marina. There would be distinct advantages from being free
from a copper line. They would have access when they have to move thier
boats. They could save money if they don;t pay for broadband and a phone
line.

I've only looked into this because friends of mine live in the marina and
they would like wireless internet.

I would like to think that I could deliver a reliable service and that the
customers could actually save a bit of money in the process. Surely this is
not a bad thing in the long run??

Rob



"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "rob" <aqwh54-NOSPAMPLEASE-@dsl.pipex.com> hath wroth:
>
>>I've got some friends who are crying out for a wireless hotspot where they
>>live.
>>My question is, what do I need to do to provide the wireless hotspot and
>>allow access once someone has paid to use the service. Just as you do when
>>you sign up for a 24 hour pass at a wireless hotspot.
>
> Never mind the technical aspects of becoming a WISP. There are
> numerous products that will make it happen. You should think about
> the political and social aspects instead. What you're doing is
> setting up everything required of a wire line ISP, with the added
> enjoyment of an unreliable method of delivery. When you say "where
> they live" I'm assuming that this will be a replacement for a DSL or
> cable modem for home use, as in a neighborhood WLAN, not a coffee shop
> hot spot.
>
> So, who is going to monitor the system for abuse?
>
> What do you do when someone complains about the speed?
>
> How do you handle interference from other systems?
>
> Bandwidth managment and QoS to keep one user from all hogging the
> bandwidth? Are you going to limit use and abuse such as Bitorrent?
>
> Be prepared for phone calls at odd hours and inconvenient times.
>
> Who's gonna do the bookkeeping and accounting?
>
> Maybe it's best that you let your friends cry and have them get their
> own broadband connection? Unless you have answers to the previous
> rhetorical questions, you might be jumping into a potential social
> problem. I run a neighborhood WLAN/LAN and have a good idea of how
> such things work. Methinks you should discuss the implications with
> someone that already operates something similar to what you're
> planning, and verify that you actually want to do it.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558