BBC News: Net firms quizzed on speed limits

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7037278.stm

I wonder if anything useful will come of it? I guess we can hope ...

"Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I wonder if anything useful will come of it? I guess we can hope ...

I can't see much coming out of it all.
With ADSL it depends on phone length and connection etc...
With cable like Virgin Media it shouldn't make any difference how far
you live from the 'exchange' you get the full speed advertised and sold.
Infact Virgin have actually stated words to the effect of that.
Something like... with ADSL you have to live quite near to the exchange
to get anything near the speed they advertise, but with us as we use
Fibre Optic, it doesn't matter... you'll get the full speed advertised.

Virgin can't supply the speed they advertise, whether it's Fibre Optic
or not...
Not when they are over subscribed, and there's contention issues, and
not to mention the amount of cloned modems saturating the network )

"Gonz" <T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote in message
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> "Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7037278.stm
>>
>> I wonder if anything useful will come of it? I guess we can hope ...
>
> I can't see much coming out of it all.
> With ADSL it depends on phone length and connection etc...
> With cable like Virgin Media it shouldn't make any difference how far
> you live from the 'exchange' you get the full speed advertised and
> sold.
> Infact Virgin have actually stated words to the effect of that.
> Something like... with ADSL you have to live quite near to the
> exchange to get anything near the speed they advertise, but with us as
> we use Fibre Optic, it doesn't matter... you'll get the full speed
> advertised.
>
> Virgin can't supply the speed they advertise, whether it's Fibre Optic
> or not...
> Not when they are over subscribed, and there's contention issues, and
> not to mention the amount of cloned modems saturating the network )

"New cabling would make it easier to guarantee speeds by removing the
distance and poor quality wiring factors, but may not solve the
contention issue, as many Virgin Media customers can attest today"

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/10/ocp_isp_speeds/

"Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I wonder if anything useful will come of it? I guess we can hope ...

Doubt it, I heard Colette Bowe on the radio the other day talking about
this.
Perhaps if she learned the difference between a megabit and a megabyte
that would be a good start.

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I was just thinking how wonderful life was, when Java Jive
<(E-Mail Removed)> opened his gob and said:

>I wonder if anything useful will come of it?

You're not serious are you? Ofcom on our side? Those morons do not
understand the market or the technical issues in their area of
'expertise'.

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Guy

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"Graham." wrote:

> "Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
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> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7037278.stm
> >
> > I wonder if anything useful will come of it? I guess we can hope ...
>
> Doubt it, I heard Colette Bowe on the radio the other day talking about
> this.
> Perhaps if she learned the difference between a megabit and a megabyte
> that would be a good start.

You expect intelligence of journalists ?

Dream on.

Graham

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:00 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Gonz"
<T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote:

>"New cabling would make it easier to guarantee speeds by removing the
>distance and poor quality wiring factors, but may not solve the
>contention issue, as many Virgin Media customers can attest today"
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/10/ocp_isp_speeds/

You /do/ realise that the comment you quote above relates to replacing
the copper ADSL infrastructure and not cable, don't you?
--
Mark McIntyre

"Mark McIntyre" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:45:00 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Gonz"
> <T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote:
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>>"New cabling would make it easier to guarantee speeds by removing the
>>distance and poor quality wiring factors, but may not solve the
>>contention issue, as many Virgin Media customers can attest today"
>>
>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/10/ocp_isp_speeds/
>
> You /do/ realise that the comment you quote above relates to replacing
> the copper ADSL infrastructure and not cable, don't you?

Why do you have to drink for?
You're useless when you're pissed.

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:44:32 +0100, Eeyore
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>"Graham." wrote:
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>> "Java Jive" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7037278.stm
>> >
>> > I wonder if anything useful will come of it? I guess we can hope ...
>>
>> Doubt it, I heard Colette Bowe on the radio the other day talking about
>> this.
>> Perhaps if she learned the difference between a megabit and a megabyte
>> that would be a good start.
>
>You expect intelligence of journalists ?
>
>Dream on.
>
>Graham

Another Silly Billy!
Journalists! Intelligence! They just about fit on the same page!

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:42:25 +0100, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Gonz"
<T o p @ S e c r e t . c o m> wrote:

>Why do you have to drink for?

You may want to consider whether that sentence makes sense.

>You're useless when you're pissed.

At least one of us is useful 99% of the time then.
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Mark McIntyre