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      05-04-2007, 04:37 PM


My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5, but my home network
throughout, will only connect to a gigabit switch at 100Mbps, not 1000.

The NIC's are certainly gigabit capable, and the network 'flies' at
100Mbps.

Is cabling the most likely cause, 'cos i can't think of what else it
might be? I can't see any settings on the NIC preferences to increase
speed.

Ideas?

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      05-04-2007, 04:43 PM
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> My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5


That should read "cheaper CAT5"

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      05-04-2007, 05:09 PM

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Hi,

Take a look at the following site:
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardwar...ome_lan_guide/

It shows the following information, as well as a lot of other useful stuff.

(The Electronics Industry Association (EIA) explains cable classifications as
shown below by breaking the cabling solutions into six categories according to
quality and speed of the cable:

CAT 1&2: Low data speed transmission less than 10mbps (basic telephone wire)
CAT 3: Data speeds of up to 16 mbps
CAT 4: Data speeds of up to 20 mbps
CAT 5: Data speeds of up to 100 mbps (what we will use)
CAT 5 Enhanced: Data speeds of up to 200 mbps
CAT 6: Data speeds of up to 600 mbps).

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      05-04-2007, 06:33 PM
In message <(E-Mail Removed)> , Tx2
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>My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5, but my home network
>throughout, will only connect to a gigabit switch at 100Mbps, not 1000.
>
>The NIC's are certainly gigabit capable, and the network 'flies' at
>100Mbps.
>
>Is cabling the most likely cause, 'cos i can't think of what else it
>might be? I can't see any settings on the NIC preferences to increase
>speed.

Might want to make sure the patch cables are all pins wired, Gigabit
uses all four pairs. You can test cables if you have two gigabit NICs as
they are smart enough to work out what sort of cable you have and
perform the crossover function as necessary so plugging a patch cable
between two PCs should work if it's fully wired.
>
>Ideas?
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      05-04-2007, 07:41 PM
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> Take a look at the following site:
> http://www.sharkyextreme.com/hardwar...ome_lan_guide/
>
> It shows the following information, as well as a lot of other useful stuff.
>
> (The Electronics Industry Association (EIA) explains cable classifications as
> shown below by breaking the cabling solutions into six categories according to
> quality and speed of the cable:
>
> CAT 1&2: Low data speed transmission less than 10mbps (basic telephone wire)
> CAT 3: Data speeds of up to 16 mbps
> CAT 4: Data speeds of up to 20 mbps
> CAT 5: Data speeds of up to 100 mbps (what we will use)
> CAT 5 Enhanced: Data speeds of up to 200 mbps
> CAT 6: Data speeds of up to 600 mbps).


It doesn't explain why the connection to my network printer, itself
having a gig controller *does* connect at such - well, that is to say
the switch shows green suggesting such speed has been achieved - when
the printer is using the same cabling as everything else on the network,
save it being a bit shorter maybe.

According to that table, gig speeds aren't possible with CAT5, yet we
use CAT5 at work, and my network connection reports it as a gig.
connection.

I'm not sure quite what else to do. C'est la vie i guess. i'm certainly
not pulling the cables again with improved spec stuff, so will have to
put up with it.


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      05-04-2007, 08:10 PM
Tx2 wrote:
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> My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5, but my home network
> throughout, will only connect to a gigabit switch at 100Mbps, not 1000.
>
> The NIC's are certainly gigabit capable, and the network 'flies' at
> 100Mbps.
>
> Is cabling the most likely cause, 'cos i can't think of what else it
> might be? I can't see any settings on the NIC preferences to increase
> speed.
>
> Ideas?
>


CAT5e will certainly work, but the older CAT5 can be a bit iffy. The
major difference between 100 and 1000 connexions is that Gigabit
requires all 4 pairs (100 only uses orange and green - "pins" 1,2,3,6).

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      05-04-2007, 10:43 PM
On Fri, 04 May 2007 21:10:24 +0100 PeeGee
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> Tx2 wrote:
> >
> > My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5, but my home network
> > throughout, will only connect to a gigabit switch at 100Mbps, not 1000.
> >
> > The NIC's are certainly gigabit capable, and the network 'flies' at
> > 100Mbps.
> >
> > Is cabling the most likely cause, 'cos i can't think of what else it
> > might be? I can't see any settings on the NIC preferences to increase
> > speed.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >

>
> CAT5e will certainly work, but the older CAT5 can be a bit iffy. The
> major difference between 100 and 1000 connexions is that Gigabit
> requires all 4 pairs (100 only uses orange and green - "pins" 1,2,3,6).


That may well be it sir! I will check over the weekend!


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      05-05-2007, 11:52 AM

"Tx2" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>
> My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5, but my home network
> throughout, will only connect to a gigabit switch at 100Mbps, not 1000.
>
> The NIC's are certainly gigabit capable, and the network 'flies' at
> 100Mbps.
>
> Is cabling the most likely cause, 'cos i can't think of what else it
> might be? I can't see any settings on the NIC preferences to increase
> speed.
>
> Ideas?
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CAT5 is the cable - it is your home network that needs wiring right.
The '5 will only be a problem over longer run or near sources of elec.
interference.
Even '5E doesn't always perform, but at home should be all right so long as
you've applied a bit of thought to it's routeing;
poor sockets/terms etc come into play too.

I bet I can get gb working on a bit of string (perhaps wet) if it's short
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      05-05-2007, 02:25 PM
On Fri, 04 May 2007 21:10:24 +0100 PeeGee
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> Tx2 wrote:
> >
> > My guess is that it's because i'm using CAT5, but my home network
> > throughout, will only connect to a gigabit switch at 100Mbps, not 1000.
> >
> > The NIC's are certainly gigabit capable, and the network 'flies' at
> > 100Mbps.
> >
> > Is cabling the most likely cause, 'cos i can't think of what else it
> > might be? I can't see any settings on the NIC preferences to increase
> > speed.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >

>
> CAT5e will certainly work, but the older CAT5 can be a bit iffy. The
> major difference between 100 and 1000 connexions is that Gigabit
> requires all 4 pairs (100 only uses orange and green - "pins" 1,2,3,6).



unfortunately, all pairs have been wired..... i presume they must be in
the right places, as 100 speed works?

The 'quality' of the connections is good, i can't see any way to make
anything better in the respect, and the runs are quite short, less than
20metres.

I'm at a loss what the problem therefore is.

My connector blocks only have colour coded labels and aren't numbered. i
can't see any errors in the way it is wired though.

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      05-05-2007, 03:44 PM
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> My connector blocks only have colour coded labels and aren't numbered. i
> can't see any errors in the way it is wired though.


I can now! The colour coded blocks are slightly misaligned and "A" and
"B" are in the wrong places, so i'd got green and orange in the wrong
places! Have rewired and now have 1.0Gbps home network!

Thanks to those who posted

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