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      08-29-2004, 05:30 AM
Hello, I posted this here before but I didn't get any response. With
Netgear's nonexistant tech support I don't know where else to go. So
if you know where I can find the answer please advise.


I am having serious problems with my Netgear MA111 USB adaptor v1 I
think. It works fine in the beginning but as time went on it
increasingly after a certain period of time (1hr or 2) the icon in the
system tray (the computer that flashes different colors) will freeze
so that you cannot pull the menu from it and then disappear from the
tray. The adaptor itself shuts off its connection light and is hot to
the touch. taking it out and plugging it back in will only cause it to
light up for a second then it goes back out. Even switching to a fresh
adapter does no good. I have to restart the computer to gain a working
connection. I've tried hanging the adaptor in a place where it is air
cooled but even then it still just shuts off after an hour or two.
I've upgraded to the latest drivers for the adaptor. nothing seems to
be amiss with my MR814 v2 router...
 
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      08-29-2004, 04:05 PM
On 28 Aug 2004 22:30:23 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (Blah) wrote:

>Hello, I posted this here before but I didn't get any response.


That's because it's not a clear or complete description of the
problem. See below.

>With
>Netgear's nonexistant tech support I don't know where else to go. So
>if you know where I can find the answer please advise.


Well, if you have a warranty issue, you'll end up talking to them
anyway.

>The adaptor itself shuts off its connection light and is hot to
>the touch.


No way. I've played with these adapters and they do not get hot to
the touch. However, it may not be blown hardware as these require the
software in the computah to run the power managment. If the driver
goes insane, it might send the MA111v1 into some kind of strange mode
where it starts to overheat. In other words, the overheating may be a
side effect and not the cause.

Another possibility is that the USB port on your unspecified computah
might be gutless and unable to deliver enough power to the USB
adapter. Similarly, the MA111v1 may be sucking excessive power from
the USB port causing it to shut down. I use a butchered USB cable
that I use for measuring current.

>taking it out and plugging it back in will only cause it to
>light up for a second then it goes back out.


Did you try letting it cool down a while and see if it recovers (while
leaving the computah turned on)? I think the MA111 is fried, but it
would be interesting to know if it's temperature related.

>Even switching to a fresh
>adapter does no good.


A fresh what? I assume you mean a different USB port and a different
MA111v1.

>I have to restart the computer to gain a working
>connection.


So, it works again after a reboot even when it's hot? If that's the
situation, it *MAY* not be the adapter. Your driver, operating
system, or laptop, may be inducing the problem by sending the USB
adapter into some strange mode. For starters, dive into the settings
for the MA111v1 and disable all "power management" features. If it
takes an hour, you might wanna check the computer's "power save"
features and temporarily disable them.

>I've tried hanging the adaptor in a place where it is air
>cooled but even then it still just shuts off after an hour or two.


Air cooling a plastic case is not going to do much for cooling
whatever seems to be overheating inside.

>I've upgraded to the latest drivers for the adaptor.


Version number?

>nothing seems to
>be amiss with my MR814 v2 router...


My best guess is that the MA111v1 is fried. However, the only way I
would know for sure that it's not the computah is to try the MA111 on
another machine.


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      08-29-2004, 04:46 PM
IF it works after a reboot and then shuts down after an hour - repeatedly,
I would sure look at the laptop power settings!

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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On 28 Aug 2004 22:30:23 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) (Blah) wrote:
>
> >Hello, I posted this here before but I didn't get any response.

>
> That's because it's not a clear or complete description of the
> problem. See below.
>
> >With
> >Netgear's nonexistant tech support I don't know where else to go. So
> >if you know where I can find the answer please advise.

>
> Well, if you have a warranty issue, you'll end up talking to them
> anyway.
>
> >The adaptor itself shuts off its connection light and is hot to
> >the touch.

>
> No way. I've played with these adapters and they do not get hot to
> the touch. However, it may not be blown hardware as these require the
> software in the computah to run the power managment. If the driver
> goes insane, it might send the MA111v1 into some kind of strange mode
> where it starts to overheat. In other words, the overheating may be a
> side effect and not the cause.
>
> Another possibility is that the USB port on your unspecified computah
> might be gutless and unable to deliver enough power to the USB
> adapter. Similarly, the MA111v1 may be sucking excessive power from
> the USB port causing it to shut down. I use a butchered USB cable
> that I use for measuring current.
>
> >taking it out and plugging it back in will only cause it to
> >light up for a second then it goes back out.

>
> Did you try letting it cool down a while and see if it recovers (while
> leaving the computah turned on)? I think the MA111 is fried, but it
> would be interesting to know if it's temperature related.
>
> >Even switching to a fresh
> >adapter does no good.

>
> A fresh what? I assume you mean a different USB port and a different
> MA111v1.
>
> >I have to restart the computer to gain a working
> >connection.

>
> So, it works again after a reboot even when it's hot? If that's the
> situation, it *MAY* not be the adapter. Your driver, operating
> system, or laptop, may be inducing the problem by sending the USB
> adapter into some strange mode. For starters, dive into the settings
> for the MA111v1 and disable all "power management" features. If it
> takes an hour, you might wanna check the computer's "power save"
> features and temporarily disable them.
>
> >I've tried hanging the adaptor in a place where it is air
> >cooled but even then it still just shuts off after an hour or two.

>
> Air cooling a plastic case is not going to do much for cooling
> whatever seems to be overheating inside.
>
> >I've upgraded to the latest drivers for the adaptor.

>
> Version number?
>
> >nothing seems to
> >be amiss with my MR814 v2 router...

>
> My best guess is that the MA111v1 is fried. However, the only way I
> would know for sure that it's not the computah is to try the MA111 on
> another machine.
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558



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