automatically log off users logon time not working

Hello,
I have all user accounts in an OU container within the windows 2000 domain
created. I applied denied logon hours between 2-4am Sunday thru Saturday.
I enabled the " Automatically Log Off Users When Logon Time Expires" on the
default Domain Group Policy object within the Security Options node. I have
the backup starting at 2:10am -4am only Sunday thru Saturday. The database
accessed needs to be closed for the backup to occur and backup it's data.
Still getting errors that the database is not closed and backed up do to
open files. How can I audit the user accounts to ensure they are logged off
to force these files to close. Is there another way to check this. Any
suggestions are appreiciated. Thank you.
Joey

Joe wrote:

> I have all user accounts in an OU container within the windows 2000 domain
> created. I applied denied logon hours between 2-4am Sunday thru Saturday.
> I enabled the " Automatically Log Off Users When Logon Time Expires" on the
> default Domain Group Policy object within the Security Options node. I have
> the backup starting at 2:10am -4am only Sunday thru Saturday. The database
> accessed needs to be closed for the backup to occur and backup it's data.
> Still getting errors that the database is not closed and backed up do to
> open files. How can I audit the user accounts to ensure they are logged off
> to force these files to close. Is there another way to check this. Any
> suggestions are appreiciated. Thank you.
Hi

This forced logoff policy is a policy for SMB server, i.e. the computer
which has a network share accessible from a network. This policy, if
enabled on a server, ends the users session with the server when their
logon hours expire.

So this policy will not log off the user from the console, and I would
think it doesn't shut down the database server connections either.

So you might need to look into configure a scheduled task that does a
forced shutdown of the computers at 1:00am or something like that.


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Instead of shutting down (or logging off) users, I would shutdown the
database.
However, AFAIK, any decent database system has a live backup capability.

Dusko Savatovic

You are asking for disaster if it did work.

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"Joe" <jbcandullo(nospam)@mmadisonservices.com> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello,
> I have all user accounts in an OU container within the windows 2000 domain
> created. I applied denied logon hours between 2-4am Sunday thru Saturday.
> I enabled the " Automatically Log Off Users When Logon Time Expires" on
the
> default Domain Group Policy object within the Security Options node. I
have
> the backup starting at 2:10am -4am only Sunday thru Saturday. The database
> accessed needs to be closed for the backup to occur and backup it's data.
> Still getting errors that the database is not closed and backed up do to
> open files. How can I audit the user accounts to ensure they are logged
off
> to force these files to close. Is there another way to check this. Any
> suggestions are appreiciated. Thank you.
> Joey
>
>

Yes.
I'm not sure if he is the same poster or not, but if he is,..I gave him the
same answer a couple days ago.

I have even created a way to accomplish the same live backup technique with
an Access MDB database using a script (or was it a VB App?,..I can't
remember anymore). I have also done it with ASP when on a website that is
database (Access) driven.
--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

"Dusko Savatovic" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Instead of shutting down (or logging off) users, I would shutdown the
> database.
> However, AFAIK, any decent database system has a live backup capability.
>
> Dusko Savatovic
>
>

Most database applications have a command to kick all users out, i.e.
force all usersessions to log off.
You might want to schedule such a command.

Or the other way around: you could make a 'dump'-file from your
running database and make a backup of the dumpfile.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:02:56 -0500, "Joe"
<jbcandullo(nospam)@mmadisonservices.com> wrote:

>Hello,
>I have all user accounts in an OU container within the windows 2000 domain
>created. I applied denied logon hours between 2-4am Sunday thru Saturday.
>I enabled the " Automatically Log Off Users When Logon Time Expires" on the
>default Domain Group Policy object within the Security Options node. I have
>the backup starting at 2:10am -4am only Sunday thru Saturday. The database
>accessed needs to be closed for the backup to occur and backup it's data.
>Still getting errors that the database is not closed and backed up do to
>open files. How can I audit the user accounts to ensure they are logged off
>to force these files to close. Is there another way to check this. Any
>suggestions are appreiciated. Thank you.
>Joey
>