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Anbjorn Grindheim
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      11-24-2005, 12:05 PM
Is there a low cost AP which lets me automate configuration through
telnet or simular? I'm specifically looking for a solution where I can
automatically change the WEP key at a regular basis.

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David Taylor
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      11-24-2005, 12:51 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Is there a low cost AP which lets me automate configuration through
> telnet or simular? I'm specifically looking for a solution where I can
> automatically change the WEP key at a regular basis.


Have to ask, why not buy a low cost AP which supports WPA or 802.1x
instead and then you wouldn't have to!

David.
 
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Anbjorn Grindheim
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      11-24-2005, 01:26 PM
* David Taylor <(E-Mail Removed)>:
| In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
| (E-Mail Removed) says...
| > Is there a low cost AP which lets me automate configuration through
| > telnet or simular? I'm specifically looking for a solution where I can
| > automatically change the WEP key at a regular basis.
|
| Have to ask, why not buy a low cost AP which supports WPA or 802.1x
| instead and then you wouldn't have to!

Initially, I thought about using a radius server, but I found out that
those users that have devices that support it find it to difficult to
set it up, and several users have devices that do not support it. I also
need to give guests access to my secured network without compromising
security (e.g. giving away a shared password). Ideally, I want to give
guests an option to quickly log on to my encrypted network without
knowing the WEP key or WPA shared password, but a compromise could be to
hand out the key and change it daily. I would be glad to hear other
solutions, though.

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David Taylor
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      11-24-2005, 01:35 PM
> those users that have devices that support it find it to difficult to
> set it up, and several users have devices that do not support it. I also


What problem are you trying to solve here? Access to the WLAN or
security of the transit data or both?

> need to give guests access to my secured network without compromising
> security (e.g. giving away a shared password). Ideally, I want to give


So buy a hotspot solution or a cheap WRT54G on Ebay and load up some
hotspot firmware. A WEP key by its very nature *is* a shared key. The
only way you'll move forward from that away from a shared key is a
RADIUS solution, hotspot solution or some other expensive solution.

> guests an option to quickly log on to my encrypted network without
> knowing the WEP key or WPA shared password, but a compromise could be to


That's the problem, how are you going to poke a WEP key into unknown
devices in a simple manner? If all the devices were equal then you'd
have a first step but then how would you do that across the LAN without
connectivity? The only way that you might be able to do it is with an
AP that supports multiple SSID's/VLAN's where the user connects to an
unauthenticated VLAN, gets a client that pokes the key or otherwise
gives them the necessary information. Then when they reconnect, they
connect to the other SSID and end up on the other VLAN. If they had
accounts, they that information could be on a secured webpage but then
if you're doing all this, I can't help but think that the RADIUS server
all of a sudden becomes the better idea?

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David WE Roberts
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      11-24-2005, 09:58 PM
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:05:42 +0100, Anbjorn Grindheim wrote:

> Is there a low cost AP which lets me automate configuration through
> telnet or simular? I'm specifically looking for a solution where I can
> automatically change the WEP key at a regular basis.


Don't know about low cost but I can telnet into my Belking wireless ADSL
router and manage that.

ISTR it is based on a Connexant board/chip.

If you look at the Broadband Router version this may offer what you want.

Just look for a AP/Router with a serial port (do they still do this?) or a
Telnet connection.

Connexant seem to generally support this.

HTH
Dave R

 
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Rico
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      11-25-2005, 08:57 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, David WE Roberts <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:05:42 +0100, Anbjorn Grindheim wrote:
>
>> Is there a low cost AP which lets me automate configuration through
>> telnet or simular? I'm specifically looking for a solution where I can
>> automatically change the WEP key at a regular basis.

>
>Don't know about low cost but I can telnet into my Belking wireless ADSL
>router and manage that.
>
>ISTR it is based on a Connexant board/chip.
>
>If you look at the Broadband Router version this may offer what you want.
>
>Just look for a AP/Router with a serial port (do they still do this?) or a
>Telnet connection.
>
>Connexant seem to generally support this.


Most home or small office APs provide a web interface for configuration,
done via a browser rather then Telnet or SSH. The other problem with
frequent WEP key changes is the users keeping up-to-date. If they have
trouble with with other security layers having to key in long strings of
hex is not going to be trouble free...

>
>HTH
>Dave R
>


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